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Matty H
17 July 2017 16:17:41

12z GFS ops looks decent enough for Southern areas. Improving picture through the weekend and beyond. For what it's worth, which is very little really unless anyone puts any faith in model output accuracy beyond a few days out


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moomin75
17 July 2017 17:11:09

12z GFS ops looks decent enough for Southern areas. Improving picture through the weekend and beyond. For what it's worth, which is very little really unless anyone puts any faith in model output accuracy beyond a few days out

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Quite. And 100f likely by the end of the run on this run. Which will be no doubt swept away to 15c and rain by 18z. The next two to three days are about as far as we can realistically go.


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Arcus
17 July 2017 17:15:51
GEM and UKMO revert to centring the low over the UK for the weekend - both look quite convective:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GEMOPEU12_120_1.png 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU12_120_1.png 


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

TimS
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17 July 2017 17:26:02
Forecast for this Friday remaining annoyingly consistent, though not too bad. It's interesting that when you focus on a specific date from about 5 days out there's actually pretty good consistency from run to run. There's still that 5-7 day predictability barrier which gives FI its name.

Good to see 100F on the cards though, albeit for this one fleeting run. Especially as GEM is Meh.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Joe Bloggs
17 July 2017 17:28:01
sunnyramsgate
17 July 2017 17:33:47
Again a week away yawn yawn
Joe Bloggs
17 July 2017 17:39:41

Again a week away yawn yawn

Originally Posted by: sunnyramsgate 

Not sure who you're referring to?

Good to see that the 12z GFS has improved markedly compared to its miserable op run yesterday evening.

The T+120 MetO chart is just funny. It's kind of a good metaphor for the country at the mo. Made me laugh anyway. :D 

Anyway we can enjoy another day of warmth before some storms and hopefully the settled weather will return again before long. 

TimS
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17 July 2017 17:46:29

 

Not sure who you're referring to?

Good to see that the 12z GFS has improved markedly compared to its miserable op run yesterday evening.

The T+120 MetO chart is just funny. It's kind of a good metaphor for the country at the mo. Made me laugh anyway. :D 

Anyway we can enjoy another day of warmth before some storms and hopefully the settled weather will return again before long. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

I was thinking of captioning it along the lines you're thinking but remembered being ticked off in another thread so stayed silent. 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Brian Gaze
17 July 2017 17:51:50

Astonishing GEFS12z tonight. There's an outside chance (15%???) that we're seeing history in the making.


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Bertwhistle
17 July 2017 17:57:53

I don't often post on this thread as it's about reading the models and that's not something I can do, but I visit it every day to enjoy the expertise of others! 

From what I've read here this summer, it seems the models don't want to us to have a good summer and only reluctantly show good weather when it's imminent. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

The latest on the rollercoaster Caz gives a chilli-hot FI. And, as I have said, I won't feel surprise if tomorrow it's a Scandi low.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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bledur
17 July 2017 18:18:37

Wetter to the N.W, drier to the S.E Temps around average

Nick Gilly
17 July 2017 18:31:14

The FI section of the 12z GFS is insane. T+324 h shows the 20C 850 hPa isotherm reaching as far north as Newcastle and thicknesses in the SE probably around 582 dam. What a pity it's so far out...

Has the 582 dam line ever reached the UK before?

yorkshirelad89
17 July 2017 18:41:17

Well if the GFS 12Z FI comes off that will be the 40C mark breached

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_324_2.png 


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Arcus
17 July 2017 18:43:06
ECM 12z also pushes the low south for the weekend, not as far south as UKMO/GEM but further than GFS.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_120_1.png 


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Hungry Tiger
17 July 2017 19:26:23

Well if the GFS 12Z FI comes off that will be the 40C mark breached

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_324_2.png 

Originally Posted by: yorkshirelad89 

 


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Bertwhistle
17 July 2017 19:37:02

The FI section of the 12z GFS is insane. T+324 h shows the 20C 850 hPa isotherm reaching as far north as Newcastle and thicknesses in the SE probably around 582 dam. What a pity it's so far out...

Has the 582 dam line ever reached the UK before?

Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 

Got a good 576 circle in Aug 2003 IIRC meaning maybe 577 or so. 582 dam seems a difficult catch.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

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Whether Idle
17 July 2017 19:43:37

The FI section of the 12z GFS is insane. T+324 h shows the 20C 850 hPa isotherm reaching as far north as Newcastle and thicknesses in the SE probably around 582 dam. What a pity it's so far out...

Has the 582 dam line ever reached the UK before?

Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 

Shows what is possible over the next 4 weeks or so.  40c is there for the taking.  Not sure about the 582 line - perhaps overnight on south coast around 4th August 1990?


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
sunnyramsgate
17 July 2017 19:51:47
The fact that the models have recently already come up with this kind of scenario makes me think that may be they are on to something just a missing link to find at the moment
Hungry Tiger
17 July 2017 19:52:24

 

Shows what is possible over the next 4 weeks or so.  40c is there for the taking.  Not sure about the 582 line - perhaps overnight on south coast around 4th August 1990?

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

I think 40C is possible. Was it 2 years ago - we got 36 to 37C and well in my home area there was at least 4 hours of cloud  and we hit 36C. So 40C if its sunny is possible.

 


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briggsy6
17 July 2017 19:56:41

Not sure i'd want to experience 40c. It would be a bit like sticking your head in the oven I should imagine.


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Brendon Hills Bandit
17 July 2017 20:08:44
I think the thing is - and I am sure other members have had this thought - the last few years we have seen some extreme heat to our south, we just haven't had the right sypnoptics to advect it our way, at least not at the right time of year and for any length of time. But if we were to ever get it right, at the right time of year, and for a decent number of days, then very high temps and 40 celsius is a definite possibilty.
220m asl, edge of Brendon Hills
Brian Gaze
17 July 2017 20:28:51

Not sure i'd want to experience 40c. It would be a bit like sticking your head in the oven I should imagine.

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 

I've experienced much higher temps in Death Valley. Also had no probs sleeping there despite not having air con. 


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Arcus
17 July 2017 20:40:53

 

I've experienced much higher temps in Death Valley. Also had no probs sleeping there despite not having air con. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Low DPs make all the difference. I've done the mid-40s in Arizona, actually quite nice. The worst was upper-30s in Thailand with 100% humidity. Anyway, OT.


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Gusty
17 July 2017 21:12:25

Not alone..Control and OP identical

Hmmmm.

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White Meadows
17 July 2017 22:03:17
Excellent. I have some time booked off end of July.

Current output from the Gfs op would have southern UK bathing in 37+ Celsius.

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