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Gooner
09 February 2014 12:57:13

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Tuesday looks a cold day , snow further North, not too sure how much the Beeb will make of it in the CF forecast

 

 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



So close to a snow event there. Could be quite a bit for the hills but looks like cold rain for most sums up this winter.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

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Mainly further North , might see a flake fly past but that is about it

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

To be honest Gooner, I am not too optimistic you will see anything where you are based. I think most of the snow will be north of south yorkshire, unless you live in Ireland. The ECM is the best bet, which has snow much more widely than the GFS, but it seems to be out on its own. 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Why do you think I said I might see a flake fly past


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Gooner
09 February 2014 12:58:28


Some signs now of temps rising as we head through February. Could be a very mild end of the month. Not much sign in these ensembles of anything remotely cold.

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Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

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which isnt good news more chance of rain


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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Gooner
09 February 2014 13:02:47

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The wet theme just goes on and on

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Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Larry Seinfeld
09 February 2014 13:02:56

A good week (comparatively) coming up for me if the meto is to be believed. No grey murk, no heavy rain, and plenty of sunshine. Temperatures look good too!

5 Dayer

Is this the start of something?


nsrobins
09 February 2014 15:38:52

Just when there was a slight hint of something more 'seasonal' the Atlantic is back after a brief less unsettled spell later next week.

The whole 3 months of winter without a snowflake here - looks odds on to me.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Quantum
09 February 2014 16:09:29

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Tuesday looks a cold day , snow further North, not too sure how much the Beeb will make of it in the CF forecast

 

 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



So close to a snow event there. Could be quite a bit for the hills but looks like cold rain for most sums up this winter.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/09/basis06/ukuk/rart/14021112_2_0906.gif

Mainly further North , might see a flake fly past but that is about it

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

To be honest Gooner, I am not too optimistic you will see anything where you are based. I think most of the snow will be north of south yorkshire, unless you live in Ireland. The ECM is the best bet, which has snow much more widely than the GFS, but it seems to be out on its own. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Why do you think I said I might see a flake fly past

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Even that is probably optimistic. 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

ITSY
09 February 2014 16:19:21

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

idj20
09 February 2014 16:34:52

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: ITSY 



Just seen the outputs, it actually made me want to cry. Especially when there could be a repeat performance on Saturday.  

Another few more days of waiting and hoping for downgrades awaits us.


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Gooner
09 February 2014 16:36:43

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Tuesday looks a cold day , snow further North, not too sure how much the Beeb will make of it in the CF forecast

 

 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



So close to a snow event there. Could be quite a bit for the hills but looks like cold rain for most sums up this winter.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/09/basis06/ukuk/rart/14021112_2_0906.gif

Mainly further North , might see a flake fly past but that is about it

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

To be honest Gooner, I am not too optimistic you will see anything where you are based. I think most of the snow will be north of south yorkshire, unless you live in Ireland. The ECM is the best bet, which has snow much more widely than the GFS, but it seems to be out on its own. 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Why do you think I said I might see a flake fly past

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Even that is probably optimistic. 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Not if I nip in the shop


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



doctormog
09 February 2014 16:37:58

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: idj20 



Just seen the outputs, it actually made me want to cry.  

Originally Posted by: ITSY 

Don't do that, you'll make the flooding worse. 😝

Seriously though the unsettled outlook continues unabated for the coming week. More rain, more wind and more hill snow in northern parts. Groundhog Day once again. Any more settled output is still outside the reliable time frame.


Gooner
09 February 2014 16:41:49

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: ITSY 

Says it all, looks bloody awful

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Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Osprey
09 February 2014 16:44:33

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



Just seen the outputs, it actually made me want to cry.  

Originally Posted by: idj20 



Don't do that, you'll make the flooding worse. Flapper

Seriously though the unsettled outlook continues unabated for the coming week. More rain, more wind and more hill snow in northern parts. Groundhog Day once again. Any more settled output is still outside the reliable time frame.

Originally Posted by: ITSY 

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idj20
09 February 2014 16:49:22

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: Osprey 



Just seen the outputs, it actually made me want to cry.  

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



Don't do that, you'll make the flooding worse. Flapper

Seriously though the unsettled outlook continues unabated for the coming week. More rain, more wind and more hill snow in northern parts. Groundhog Day once again. Any more settled output is still outside the reliable time frame.

Originally Posted by: idj20 

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Originally Posted by: ITSY 

 Sigh . . . yes, it is true that there has been that trend of things calming down at about that time - let's just hope that light doesn't get snuffed out when we get near to it.
 
I've gone right off being a "winter lover" now, off to check if my insurance documents are all up to date (didn't I say that several time this season?).


Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
Gavin P
09 February 2014 17:27:24

Just when there was a slight hint of something more 'seasonal' the Atlantic is back after a brief less unsettled spell later next week.

The whole 3 months of winter without a snowflake here - looks odds on to me.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

I thought you got a splodge of sleet two Wednesdays back at around 2:30?


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The Beast from the East
09 February 2014 18:59:05
ECM builds a ridge and dries things out post Day 7, so light at the end of the tunnel
Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Karl Guille
09 February 2014 19:45:10

Just when there was a slight hint of something more 'seasonal' the Atlantic is back after a brief less unsettled spell later next week.

The whole 3 months of winter without a snowflake here - looks odds on to me.

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

I thought you got a splodge of sleet two Wednesdays back at around 2:30?

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Funnily enough we had a little sleetyness in a shower here yesterday as temps fell back to 5 degrees in the showers! Certainly no sign of major cold or anything substantially dry for the foreseeable!


St. Sampson

Guernsey

Hungry Tiger
09 February 2014 19:50:45

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Says it all, looks bloody awful

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Originally Posted by: ITSY 

My God - the ground is more than wet enough in my area as it is. Of course - its now the same story for most people now.

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

TWO Moderator.

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South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.



ITSY
09 February 2014 20:36:10

Absolutely woeful 12Z from the GFS for the South, with heavy rain forecast on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday - with some severe Gales along the coast thrown into the mix. Parts of the Thames Valley, not to meantion those communities in the SW and the Severn, could be devestated come this time next week.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

Says it all, looks bloody awful

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Originally Posted by: Gooner 

My God - the ground is more than wet enough in my area as it is. Of course - its now the same story for most people now.

 

Originally Posted by: ITSY 



It is truly unbelievable. If this coming week verifies like that there will be some record flooding throughout central, southern, south western and south eastern England - and Wales. Could be the wettest week yet! all with snow in the North and Scotland on Tuesday causing additional disruption. Eyes tuned to the headlines, forecasts, output and EA now.

LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
09 February 2014 20:38:40
It looks certainly surely truly has been evidenced that yesterday and today the major annual stratospheric warming event has happened, plus San Francisco and California are having wet and rainy weather west flow and now fliw Jetstream in E NE Pacific plus USA and Vanada plus Europe North Atlantic Polar frontal Jetstream very strong and West NW flows tracking SE East and NE at times.

Winter Wonderland possible in two weeks time!!.

Heavy snows and very cold weather for Alaska and Central to NE USA and Greenland to Iceland and also Svalbard SE Arctic NE Atlantic plus NE Urope cold NW plunges hippy hooray.

This pattern change Jetstream Amplification will advection cold Arctic Air Southwards as High Pressure in the Arctic & Northern Landmasses Continental cold pools with frost and snowfalls is likely I two weeks time well don Stratosphere- three weeks later than 2013 in January!.


Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.

GIBBY
09 February 2014 20:45:30

Hi everyone. Will the improvements of this morning be built upon tonight? Here is my take on that very question as I review the latest outputs of the NWP based on their midday outputs for today Sunday February 9th 2014.

All models show the weekend Low pressure now filling to the North while another tracks East to the South with the UK falling under an area of slack pressure for the next 36 hours. Some rain or wintry showers will still be scattered about, particularly near Western coasts and with some light rain for a time in the SE tomorrow morning. On Tuesday an active front moves East with strong winds ahead of it together with another spell of heavy rain and snow over the hills and in the North. By Wednesday the UK lies under a cold and showery Westerly flow with wintry showers giving some snowfall over hills, again chiefly in the North. Then overnight Wednesday into Thursday another active weather feature moves across the UK with renewed rain and gales followed by showers once more later in the day.

GFS then ends the week with further Low pressure, gales and heavy rain before the weather improves somewhat late in the weekend though with some showers in the North as Low pressure moves further North than of late with Higher pressure to the South. Through the lower resolution part of the run tonight High pressure again features eventually settling over the UK with rather cold weather with frost and fog at night but dry for most.

The GFS Ensembles tonight offer two weeks of fairly average values though after the mid point of the run this is made up from a wide spread between members with some very cold options being shown including the control run. Rainfall remains stubbornly present over the period but not as excessive as of late.

UKMO shows next Saturday as a very showery and rather chilly day as Low pressure is positioned out in the North Sea with strong West veering NW winds through the day. A ridge of High pressure over the Atlantic on Saturday should give a drier interlude next Sunday.

GEM tonight shows no relief of note within it's output period with intense Low pressure with attendant severe gales and rain give way to further unsettled weather with rain and showers at times thereafter. rather cold weather with snow on the hills next weekend will probably give way to slightly milder weather as we enter Week 2.

NAVGEM also shows little signs of change next weekend with any rise of pressure limited or muted in the face of further troughs and rain at times to end the run early next week.

ECM tonight shows the unsettled period lessening as we move into next week as at long last something of a ridge moves up from the SW pushing the rain bearing systems on more of their usual route towards Iceland and affecting the NW most while the South and East see something of a much more meaningful respite.

The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts show an improvement to those of late but not as good as i would like to see to guarantee drier weather over the UK. The charts both show a bias towards Low pressure to the NW and an unstable SW flow over the UK enabling futher rain bearing troughs to cross the UK from the SW at times.

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The GFS Jet Stream Forecast shows no change to the flow this week, maintained in it's current position South of the UK. Through Week 2 the flow buckles and becomes much more ill defined with time with no coherent pattern indicated.

In Summary tonight there is still an element of improvement still shown from some output, more notably from GFS and ECM. We must remember though we are talking about periods of time outside of the reliable time period still and it won't be until we are nearing midweek that we need the above improvements to still be shown, by which time they can be taken more seriously. In the mean time there is another week or so of misery and more heavy rain and indeed snow for some to get through which is far from welcome before 'maybe' we can look forward to something better.


Martin G

Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset

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Hungry Tiger
09 February 2014 21:21:49

Just saw the Countryfile Forecast before Top Gear.

Seems like there are 3 if not 4 periods of wet weather for Central and Southern England between now and this time next week.

If it comes off - I am guessing that I reckon I might see at total of at least 2 inches of rain in that lot - possibly 3 inches.

That's more than enough to trigger severe flooding throughout East Anglia and the Fens.

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

TWO Moderator.

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South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.



jondg14
09 February 2014 22:01:51

Just saw the Countryfile Forecast before Top Gear.

Seems like there are 3 if not 4 periods of wet weather for Central and Southern England between now and this time next week.

If it comes off - I am guessing that I reckon I might see at total of at least 2 inches of rain in that lot - possibly 3 inches.

That's more than enough to trigger severe flooding throughout East Anglia and the Fens.

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

It's not looking clever.

18z GFS makes a particularly big deal of the system on Wednesday

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