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NMA
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29 August 2026 09:50:31

Happens most years regardless of official or not drought status

And then we could talk about the negative impacts of a wet winter, but that’s not fashionable 

Plenty of positives too - ie MILD!!!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Matty, I was hoping you'd bring in the MILD. 

Of course, flooding can be a negative, often brought about by our propensity for building on low-lying land such as floodplains.

Ways around it include building on stilts. Often done overseas. The Dutch are masters of the art of floating houses...


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South Dorset

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NMA
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29 August 2026 10:06:27
Not always. Groundwater flooding washes out some of the nasties from the aquifers as well as helping replenish them.

Canalisation of many watercourses is one of the issues we need to address for various reasons, including getting the water into the sea as fast as possible. This has created unforeseen problems in flood management. No simple solutions, though some people think increased dredging and straightening of channels is still the way to go. 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Matty H
29 August 2026 10:18:10

Matty, I was hoping you'd bring in the MILD. 

Of course, flooding can be a negative, often brought about by our propensity for building on low-lying land such as floodplains.

Ways around it include building on stilts. Often done overseas. The Dutch are masters of the art of floating houses...

Originally Posted by: NMA 

A downside of prolonged, dry weather is that when we get storms like we’ve had this week, the rainwater just runs off it like concrete, causing brief flooding, when it would otherwise have soaked into the soil


Yate, Nr Bristol

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Northern Sky
29 August 2026 10:49:20
I don't think we'll know the full extent of the effect on wildlife until next year. It's very likely that the drought will have killed lots of young trees and shrubs. Also likely that many birds, mammals and reptiles will have been severely affected. Some insects including butterflies have had a great year, but the knock on effect of plants that provide food for larval stages dying early, may mean next year looks very different. 
fairweather
29 August 2026 11:09:22

Happens most years regardless of official or not drought status

And then we could talk about the negative impacts of a wet winter, but that’s not fashionable 

Plenty of positives too - ie MILD!!!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I doubt you've experienced real drought conditions or its impacts on the environment like dead trees and plants living in such a wet area.  I am rarely affected by floods in a wet winter (they are constantly in the news) but I sympathise with those that are and don't just say it always happens in the SW, live with it! This is the second consecutive drought summer here. The Autumn was barely average with just January and February being above average. I wonder what is your total rainfall for the last two years up till now? We have had 10mm since mid June including today's rain so far and 730mm total for the last two years  to put some perspective on it.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
29 August 2026 14:52:23

Not always. Groundwater flooding washes out some of the nasties from the aquifers as well as helping replenish them.

Canalisation of many watercourses is one of the issues we need to address for various reasons, including getting the water into the sea as fast as possible. This has created unforeseen problems in flood management. No simple solutions, though some people think increased dredging and straightening of channels is still the way to go. 

Originally Posted by: NMA 

As well as the things that have been mentioned during this thread one of the factors with increased run off is the keenness of the public to pave over front gardens and now, back gardens with non porous paving. It is in breach of the SUDS planning regulations and round here the Council don't enforce them and just allow a token metal grid along the front which does nothing on clay. So we and local authorities are partly responsible. Myself, 5 years ago I invested in a porous resin bound driveway. It is a fantastic product and well worth the 25-50% premium over block paving. It starts with normal type one aggregate that is porous anyway and then has about a foot of special porous concrete on top before the layer of a few cm of the gravel bound with the porous resin. Mine is now 5 years old and has not sagged or cracked and still looks really good. Throw a bucket of water on it and it vanishes in a few seconds. It's effectively permanently dry.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Jiries
29 August 2026 15:27:54

A downside of prolonged, dry weather is that when we get storms like we’ve had this week, the rainwater just runs off it like concrete, causing brief flooding, when it would otherwise have soaked into the soil

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

There was a lot in Nicosia today during today big storms almost rain the whole Cyprus, roads become rivers because of adjoining lands have run off to the roads to flood.  Here not able to compete as it too weak the rain here and the intensity is too weak too just a brief few mins heavy rain show a little run off but never fully.

Rain here are so weak and completely useless, no proper heavy rain and hail as it been reported in Cyprus today which is very interesting than here extremely boring light useless rain all day.

29 August 2026 15:51:25

Since I don't know the answer to that myself, I have asked around other forums to see if anyone else has that answer. On one such forum, I got a reply from someone who lives in that area and who is probably far more knowledgable on that subject than me but even they weren't able to come up with a very definitive answer to that and merely agreed with me that the significant water scarcity status in those areas aren't consistent in any way with the actual rainfall patterns in those areas or the status in the surrounding areas.

The best answer which I was able to get was just a theory that either that significant water scarcity status is merely an error, or that is due to a possible issue with the source of a couple of rivers which flow into there from the Southern Uplands. If the source of those rivers are in an area which has a worse drought status, that could well have resulted in very low river flows further downstream, which might just be enough to explain why those particular areas are at significant water scarcity status despite there being a reasonable amount of rain in those areas.

Even if that is the case though, these rivers would still have to flow through those early warning status areas coloured green to get to those red coloured areas, so I am still completely stumped with that one so if anyone on here knows the answer to that and provide that here, that would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

The Status is referring to the Tweed upper and mid, Galloway is the western extent of the catchment. 

Saint Snow
29 August 2026 19:36:46

Thanks Saint

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Originally Posted by: KDB1 

Thanks for posting this, mate.

It's as I thought - a very good summer, but I've enjoyed better.


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johncs2016
29 August 2026 19:50:00

The Status is referring to the Tweed upper and mid, Galloway is the western extent of the catchment. 

Originally Posted by: HighPressureGloom 

Thanks for clarifying that although it seems very strange that just the one catchment is affected in this manner whilst none of the other surrounding catchment areas are affected to anything like the same extent.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

fairweather
29 August 2026 20:50:02
5.6mm, no following heavy showers this afternoon and evening. "Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey!"
S.Essex, 42m ASL
The Beast from the East
30 August 2026 10:13:28
remarkable how quickly the grass greens up.  within a few days it looks so much better. 
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Matty H
30 August 2026 15:16:59

I doubt you've experienced real drought conditions or its impacts on the environment like dead trees and plants living in such a wet area.  I am rarely affected by floods in a wet winter (they are constantly in the news) but I sympathise with those that are and don't just say it always happens in the SW, live with it! This is the second consecutive drought summer here. The Autumn was barely average with just January and February being above average. I wonder what is your total rainfall for the last two years up till now? We have had 10mm since mid June including today's rain so far and 730mm total for the last two years  to put some perspective on it.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

If you think it’s been wet here since May you are sorely mistaken. It’s been absolutely bone dry until the last week with barely a spot of rain since early june


Yate, Nr Bristol

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fairweather
01 September 2026 00:37:34
Zero rain in July. 14.5mm for August, drought continues.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
DEW
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02 September 2026 10:38:59
A large bough of an old horse chestnut (ca 25cm diameter) simply cracked off in calm conditions yesterday at West Dean gardens, fortunately before public opening times.

People wittering on in other thread about extensions to summer and hot weekends can have all the heat they like, provided we get some heavy rain overnight to restore plants and the wildlife dependent on them. The 25.5mm we've had in the last week (20.8mm on just one day) has given to a suspicion of greenness on the lawns but hasn't really made any difference.


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Jiries
02 September 2026 10:51:53

Zero rain in July. 14.5mm for August, drought continues.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

14.5mm a lot of rain to end the drought?  Maybe if was 1 or 2mm but 14.5mm offically ended for your area so you should be happy what it take?   

johncs2016
03 September 2026 19:49:22
SEPA have just released this week's water scarcity report which can be viewed here .

There has been some decent rainfall here in the last week but the overall picture continues to be a very mixed bag as the amount of rainfall across the country has been very variable and often showery in nature.

First of all, there is some good news in the Galloway region where those two areas which were at significant water scarcity status have now had their status downgraded to moderate water scarcity status with the water extraction restrictions being lifted there as a result.

However, there are two areas in Midlothian and the northern half of the Borders which have had their status upgraded from moderate water scarcity status to significant water scarcity status with water extraction restrictions also being imposed in those areas. In addition to that, SEPA have warned that parts of East Lothian, Fife and Tayside could have their status upgraded all the way to significant water scarcity status if there is no sustained rainfall within the next week in those areas.

In addition to that, the Loch Earn catchment area has had its status upgraded from alert status to moderate water scarcity status and even the Shetland Islands have had their status upgraded from normal status to early warning status.

However, the northern part of Aberdeenshire along with parts of the city of Aberdeen itself have had their status downgraded from moderate water scarcity status to alert status with parts of Ayrshire returning to normal status.

This means that moderate water scarcity status conditions are now mostly confined to the south and east of Scotland with that extending no further north than the city of Aberdeen although Edinburgh still continues to be included within that area.

Parts of NE Scotland and one area in the extreme south of Scotland are currently at alert level whereas the Shetland Islands along with most of central and SW Scotland are at early warning status. The rest of Scotland which has not been mentioned so far are at normal status for water scarcity.

River levels are still very low in the south and east of Scotland, especially in parts of the Borders and Tayside.

Groundwater levels are low to very low in eastern Scotland especially in central Fife, but remain at normal to above normal levels elsewhere.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

fairweather
04 September 2026 16:22:11

14.5mm a lot of rain to end the drought?  Maybe if was 1 or 2mm but 14.5mm offically ended for your area so you should be happy what it take?   

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

? It's not a lot of rain. 5.5mm, 6.5mm and 2.5mm each day in warmth and drying winds make absolutely no difference. It may officially end it on paper but the situation on t he ground, so to speak is unchanged. It will take a minimum of 100mm to even get normality restarted. Just 1.1mm from today's squall. With today that's 4 rainy days in 74. Not much really is it?


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Jiries
04 September 2026 18:50:53

? It's not a lot of rain. 5.5mm, 6.5mm and 2.5mm each day in warmth and drying winds make absolutely no difference. It may officially end it on paper but the situation on t he ground, so to speak is unchanged. It will take a minimum of 100mm to even get normality restarted. Just 1.1mm from today's squall. With today that's 4 rainy days in 74. Not much really is it?

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Still better than nothing and those in Scotland would be drooling at low rain values as they badly needed for few drier months a year than very wet all year around.  Here not sure the amount but now badly need few weeks without rain as it not been dry for ages now.  Cyprus had a record wettest August this year from the stats with one place in Nicosia got 111mm rain locally where I used to live in 1984 to 1986 before moving to another area in Nicosia.   They did well with much needed rain and no fires since then.  You need a thunderstorms to deliver high rainfall amount than useless frontal rain or rain showers.  

doctormog
04 September 2026 19:42:05

Still better than nothing and those in Scotland would be drooling at low rain values as they badly needed for few drier months a year than very wet all year around.  Here not sure the amount but now badly need few weeks without rain as it not been dry for ages now.  Cyprus had a record wettest August this year from the stats with one place in Nicosia got 111mm rain locally where I used to live in 1984 to 1986 before moving to another area in Nicosia.   They did well with much needed rain and no fires since then.  You need a thunderstorms to deliver high rainfall amount than useless frontal rain or rain showers.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Actually many parts of eastern Scotland could do with a bit more rain. Both summer and spring were drier than average here after a wetter winter (although quite a bit of that was snowfall).


Jiries
04 September 2026 22:18:17

Actually many parts of eastern Scotland could do with a bit more rain. Both summer and spring were drier than average here after a wetter winter (although quite a bit of that was snowfall).

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Richard don’t see this way often complaining about rain and dull there.   Scotland does need at times drier break so like what you said is a blessing they were drier than average.  Drier v wetter is very stark as wet soil is 80% most of the year especially from late September to late March then on and off rest of the year.  This summer was the best 2 months dry break but not enough as it first half of June and 2nd half of August was extremely wet every day without a dry break more than 24 hrs.

picturesareme
05 September 2026 13:39:48
Always amazing just how fast dead grass regenerates. Everything is starting to look nice and green down here after 30mm of rain last month and around 5mm so far this month. 
lanky
06 September 2026 13:47:02

Always amazing just how fast dead grass regenerates. Everything is starting to look nice and green down here after 30mm of rain last month and around 5mm so far this month. 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Very little sign of any green yet round here

Despite all the comments in the last day or two about the last week being the wettest since early February, in Kew/Richmond where I live we have only had about 4-5mm in that time. First half of June was much wetter with the two big thunderstorms and other wet days bringing about 70mm - but still nothing much since then


Martin

Richmond, Surrey

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06 September 2026 14:46:03

Very little sign of any green yet round here

Despite all the comments in the last day or two about the last week being the wettest since early February, in Kew/Richmond where I live we have only had about 4-5mm in that time. First half of June was much wetter with the two big thunderstorms and other wet days bringing about 70mm - but still nothing much since then

Originally Posted by: lanky 

Yes, the grass has reverted to a straw colour in many places again around here in this part of Dorset. 1.5mm of rain so far this month.

The garden shows it too and unless I water with cans, I would be renting a skip I think. It will change I'm sure but when?


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South Dorset

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fairweather
06 September 2026 19:50:25
Same here, 1.1mm from a 3 minute downpour from the line squall that went through. Other wise 15mm since June and 27.7C here today in a drying wind. Generally been mid 20's since drought "ended". A bit less sun at times and of course shorter days now.
S.Essex, 42m ASL

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