Don’t know why in NW have the most silly thread  called heat hater thread? Why no cold hater thread?  Still never seen any drought and still lush green despite no rain and recent heat wave.

If you are a member of the NW forum though and would like to see a cold hater’s thread, I’m sure that there would be nothing to stop you from starting such a thread over there yourself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c17yv9710d9o 

That's more so with the huge increase in population here in the south. 

Not a member but some did but they took it down which is odd?  I love cold with snow but cold for nothing in winter no thanks and cold summer not my liking too.  I also wondering why the grass in this area had not gone parched after the last heatwave? Did not rain here proper since the cold unsettled weather in June, only 2 times rain that dampen it. It did went parched a bit after May heatwave only.

That's what I'm hoping for too. Sooner, though, would be good and later too for that matter. We need an emergency water storage programme of large and medium infrastructure works. Water butts don't cut the mustard IMO. The average ones you see for sale run out in a week or less. I see Southern Water will introduce hosepipe bans from the 10th for Hants and IOW. The Test once a pristine jewel in the chalk stream world, is becoming a travesty of that name. Trump would say "Continue to drill baby drill."

And from the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c17yv9710d9o 

"In June, we've actually seen a third of the flow and so the models have just not necessarily predicted that," said Tania Flasck, director of water operations.

"When we've actually measured the levels we've seen it's dropped down a lot, a lot further and faster than we've anticipated."

It almost seems there's a leak in the chalk somewhere... My words.

Apologies for going off topic here but whilst on the subject of the NW forum, I've just come across something which might interest Jerry from the south of Edinburgh.

Here on TWO, I always refer to him just as Jerry even though his actual username on here is "Crepuscular Ray". Armed with that information, I then checked out the NW forum, it turns out that there is a member of that forum with the username of "Crepuscular Ray", but that member is not our Jerry from the south of Edinburgh.

It turns out that the member in question is actually a women who is located somewhere in Wales, and who regularly posts on the Welsh regional section of that forum.

I obviously don't know whether or not Jerry is a member of the NW forum although regardless of whether he is or not, there are a handful of members over there from here in Edinburgh who mainly post in the Scottish section of that forum.

If we assume that Jerry isn't a member of the NW forum though, the username which he chose for there would need to different from his username here on TWO as a result of the above mentioned woman fromWales having already taken that username over there.

A neighbour with a crop science background commented wryly, "What farmers lose on yields they will at least save on crop drying costs!" We're coming up to St Swithun's Day! 15th July.

"St Swithun's day if thou dost rain

For forty days it will remain

St Swithun's day if thou be fair

For forty days 'twill rain nae mare."

According to the 00Z GFS we may potentially some rain on the 21st July FW...

ECM has something bubbling up over your location 19th...

With nothing frontal and prolonged the best we can hope for is the odd thunder storm, but there’s absolutely no CAPE of note either.

The Oak tree outside my office window is now bleaching off this years growth. I suspect its a 120 year old tree so not one I’d expect to struggle...

Hi John, no it's not me on the NW Forum 🙂

Same username as me? I should be flattered i suppose 😁

On the plus side, i think the farmers around here will do well, assuming nothing untoward happens come August/September. We've had decent amounts of rain interspersed with decent sunshine in May/June which has been great for silage and this sunny spell will help bring everything else on. 

I assume you can still hand-cart water in cans to water flowers and veg. Otherwise, perhaps someone's been looking at next winter rainfall total probabilities and is beginning to panic. We can't say we weren't warned about lack of water. Yet we've done little to address the issues.

It is ridiculous that Britain of all places should be short of water. Too much money going to shareholders and not enough invested in infrastructure and fixing leaks.

Rainfall totals have continued to be fairly high in the west of Scotland over the past week, but remain very low in the east with no signs of any significant rainfall in the latest model output as far as I can see.

This means that in the east of Scotland in particular, the situation  does not look good at the moment and as a result, one area on the Moray Firth has had its status upgraded all the way to significant water scarcity status which is the highest level which you can get to with that. We were warned last week that this would happen if there was no significant rainfall in that rainfall, and that is indeed what has now ended up happening. As a result, restrictions on water extraction have now been imposed in the River Lossie catchment area where that significant water scarcity status has come into effect.

Meanwhile, East Lothian and one other area in the Moray Firth area remains at moderate water scarcity status. Most of the east of Scotland including Edinburgh and the Borders remains at alert level and there is one area within which have had its status upgraded from early warning status to alert status.

In addition to that, two areas within the Tayside region have had their status upgraded from normal status to early warning status.This means that there are four areas altogether in central northern Scotland which is at early warning status. The rest of Scotland which has not been mentioned so far is still at normal level.

River levels are actually very high in the west of Scotland just now, but remain very low in the east with the River Lossie experiencing its lowest river levels since 2003.

Finally, groundwater levels are very low in central Fife in particular and are low to very low across the east of Scotland more generally. Across the rest of Scotland though, the groundwater levels are at or above average at the moment.

I have radial nerve palsy and struggle with this but as we've always been big wildlife planters I have to keep things watered.

Over the fence in the new-ish affordable housing they are happily filling their large paddling pool and watering their not-new lawn with a hose. 

The Itchen is registered as normal flow still so I'm not sure who I'm more peeved with- the me-me-mes or Southern water.

The recent desiccating winds have made vegetation look noticeably parched. Leaf fall is visible on unwatered land. I water my garden because I don't want to order a skip.

Water butts, IMO, are fine, but you need decent-sized ones; otherwise, you'll soon run out of water. The little ones are a near waste of time unless you have a balcony garden. Looking at the radar just now, Brittany looks interesting, but based on experience, that's where most of the rain will stay I fear for now.

We all know that there is no actual scientific basis behind that and that this is something which always has no chance whatsoever of actually ever being observed in practice. However, no rain is expected to fall anywhere today and given that we are currently in a drought situation in many areas with hosepipe bans having already been introduced in a number of areas, this actually makes everything very interesting on this occasion on that regard.

Long spells of constantly dry weather here in the UK are not usually expected to happen all that often but in the south of England in particular, that has in the past, led to the odd month without any recorded rainfall whatsoever in a few locations. Looking at the latest model output, some places might get some thunderstorms at times and even get some locally high rainfall totals with that but more generally, there aren't any signs of any significant rainfall on the horizon.

As a result, there is the chance that some areas might have quite a long wait yet to come before they eventually see their next recorded rainfall. Whilst actually seeing that St. Swithin's Day legend being honored continues to be very unlikely even with that, the fact that locations can potentially go for an entire month or so without any recorded rainfall even here in the UK means that there could actually be the outside chance of the St. Swithin's Day legend being honored this time in the odd location, or at least a few locations coming very close to seeing that happen.

That is clearly something which I don't want to see happening because the impacts from what has happened so far are already bad enough as it is, and will only get even worse as that continues but it will be interesting anyway to see whether or not, there does actually end up being any locations where the St. Swithin's Day legend for this year is either honored, or gets very close to being honored. However that pans out though, it will still be important to keep in mind that if that does indeed end up being the case, it will have been the current pattern itself and the various drivers being that which will likely to have caused that, with St. Swithin's Day playing no actual part in that but this doesn't in my books prevent that from being interesting anyway.

Very low levels of rainfall continue to be a major concern across the east of Scotland in particular but in spite of that, the one area which was upgraded all the way up to significant water scarcity status last week has now been downgraded to alert status which means that the water extraction restrictions which were imposed there as a result have also been lifted.

For now, Edinburgh is still clinging onto alert status for water scarcity but a number of its surrounding areas have now had their status upgraded from alert status to moderate water scarcity status. These areas include the Borders, Fife, parts of Central Scotland, Fife (including the city of Dunfermline), Tayside (including the cities of Perth and Dundee) and also parts of Aberdeenshire.

In addition to Edinburgh, there are 4 areas in NE Scotland including the city of Aberdeen which is currently at alert status. Furthermore, a number of areas have been had their status upgraded from normal status to early warning status. These areas now extend all the way into SW Scotland and include the city of Glasgow. They also extend further north and include the city of Inverness.

All of the rest of Scotland which has not been mentioned here is still at normal status as regards to water scarcity. Some parts of the north and west of Scotland have still done fairly well for rainfall just lately and the river levels in the west are still high to very high, but they remain low to very low with the River Tween catchment area in the Borders having the biggest impact of that.

Groundwater levels are very low in central Fife and low to very low in the east of Scotland more generally, but at or above normal elsewhere.