Is it likely that this concert will be cancelled? So far, I can't find anything to suggest this, but IMO I would certainly think twice about going. I would reschedule otherwise; there is a high risk of personal injury in a confined space with thousands of people if it goes ahead. But will the venue go ahead, knowing the risks?

Any ideas please?  

This is what the website for the venue says re weather. 

https://cuffeandtaylorhelp.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/articles/22539774634909-Frequently-Asked-Questions-Blackweir 

Yes — concerts will continue rain or shine. They would only be cancelled if weather conditions were deemed unsafe.

I would suggest this hot spell is unprecedented and unsafe.

Completely understand your concern, Nick, but what does she think?  It is a night time concert, isn't it? But temps do look high. Perhaps the answer to have a well understood Plan B that you are all happy with?

I hitched to a music festival in Belgium in 1967! Looking back it was a bit mad.

I have no idea what she thinks. She plans to go with her boyfriend which will be a couple of hours or more drive in the high temps and what will be high humidity. Personally, I think the organisers should reschedule. I bet they are thinking hard as I type. Is it worth the risk for them to go ahead? People faint in far lower temperatures. Cardiff has a good A&E but...

I think Cure fans would be particularly affected by the heat, with all that black clothing and chunky boots 😄

(good luck to her whatever; hope she's ok)

I have 3 days work in central London this week 2 days in an air-conditioned office (Wednesday and Friday) so that should be fine . But Thursday I'm in a studio which is normally roasting hot anyway god knows what it will be like on Thursday.  Not ideal.

She'd never heard of The Cure until the other week! Her boyfriend, who she went to school with, is obviously a fan...

Anyway, the Met Office is struggling with demand. 

I assume the car has air con so that shouldn't be an issue

Terrific band. 

Thank you West. The car has aircon but I wouldn't want to be stuck on the M5 in conditions like that, let alone the Severn Crossing.

That’s the thing. The Met Office have issued a Red Warning so if the organisers decide to go ahead and there are heat-related issues, they would in theory, be open to legal proceedings from anyone who suffers in some way. You can only take in an unsealed 500ml bottle of water, though they say there are free water refill points.  Would there be enough though? It’s Wales, a country not used to heat events of this nature. Unprecedented even. Is heat stroke/exhaustion an illness looked at from a legal angle? They will have public liability insurance for this kind of thing. But they certainly wouldn’t want the publicity of another Taylor Swift Rio concert. The Met Office red warnings are just that, so it’s up to the individual to ignore or heed them. But this Red Warning is only the second for the UK. 

I’ve told her and she agrees that I’ll refund the tickets if the organisers don’t cancel and they don't travel.

You still read these kinds of comments such as “It’s summer so what do you expect?” "'76 was hotter too."

She mentioned the Met Office Red Warnings just now and knows just how uncomfortable it will be at 5pm in the open park.

So far the organisers have said nothing, though I bet they're looking at all the angles as I type this with a team of lawyers. But IMO it’s a huge risk to undertake and go ahead with the concert. Plus The Cure are like me, not spring chickens! I assume their other insurance would cover a cancelled concert, though if the insurer insists it's an Act of God there's no way out!

Of course, there has been red warnings issued by the Met Office before including one for snow here in Edinburgh during the beast from the east event in 2018. However, I don't  think I've ever seen a red warning which has covered such a large area as this one, and that is what makes it more concerning on a UK-wide basis (that may well only be a south of England and Wales event for now but with ongoing climate change, that will no doubt be something which becomes more widespread over time with its effects extending further north across an increasingly larger part of the UK, thereby making it more concerning from an overall UK-wide basis and not just on a south of England basis).

It's the second one, the first was in 2022 (and prompted much discussion at work as to whether the school would open or not!)

Update: Friday, 15/07/2022 15:20

The Met Office has issued a red extreme heat warning in the east of England, the Midlands and parts of the North West on Monday and Tuesday with temperatures forecast to reach as high as 40°C in some areas, including London. An amber warning is in place across the rest of England, Wales and some parts of southern Scotland.

https://www.energynetworks.org/newsroom/heatwave-energy-networks-respond-to-first-met-office-red-extreme-heat-warning

I can’t remember the 2022 red warning, but I also didn’t want to just assume that there wasn’t one back then which I’m sure would no doubt have resulted in me getting a lot of stick on here for doing so which would have been fully deserved in this instance.

There might also have been one in 2003 if such things had existed then.

So I guess she will be going. The only thing that would prevent her is if the Government alarm goes off on her phone! I wonder if the Govt. will do this or perhaps they are too preoccupied with other matters. There again, the organisers, in spite of the Red Warning, don’t seem to be particularly concerned about this warning. Money talks and all that. But the Red (emergency response)  alert indicates significant risk to life for even the healthy population say the Govt. 

So it seems take the risk and hope any heatstroke victims get compensation from the public liability insurance or in more practical terms put it on the public purse i.e. NHS. There is always the possibility that an insurance provider might say “Well, there was a Govt Red Warning and you still went ahead with the concert so you’re not covered.”

I think the risk is for pickers to get heat stroke. The staff will be under cover, one would hope in the weigh station.  The best time to pick or so I was told, is early morning, especially in warm weather. You should then chill them almost immediately. Or at least when picked for supermarkets. Otherwise, they go off fast.

Edit and of course, would the farm's public liability insurance cover them for pickers dying at worst in their field?

Tricky one as this is only the second red warning I'm aware of for UK heat.

This one has the potential to become a disaster. 

Extra shade is going to have everyone making a beeline to that. And can they really supply 35,000 people with free water fills?

Some of the comments make sense. They should cancel it IMO. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCure/comments/1ucelzz/what_is_the_schedule_for_cardiff_on_wednesday/ 

If they are concerned they must have cancellation insurance. Use it. Stop the Gig now and hold it later. What's the issue? The fans will still come.

It's occasions like this when I don't miss my former tomato greenhouse workplace. Yes, 15 years on since the place closed down, I still thank the lucky stars for that change in circumstances. 

My next door lady neighbour is saying how much she is looking forward to seeing Take That live at London Stadium on Thursday. I just hope she realise how it's going to be horrendously hot there when compared to our relatively comfortable coastal climate. 

I think some people haven't yet grasped the fundamental change in the UK climate in recent years. More so, Cardiff City Council, who seem to think that drinking water and sun lotion is the cure for heatstroke.

My daughter is not going now. Our garden yesterday afternoon and evening made that decision for her. I've been to Bute Park in Cardiff and at that time it felt green and pleasant. I get the impression the organiser's insurance doesn't cover this kind of extreme weather event. So they need to go ahead, come 'rain or shine' as it says in the concert small print. I think the 'rain or shine' bit also comes somewhere into whatever insurance they hold. It wasn't anticipated by whoever signed off on this insurance policy that we'd be in this situation for this Wednesday. So they can't cancel without losing a lot of money. But they will also take a great risk in going ahead this evening. 

If people still attend and suffer from heat-related issues, who is to blame? I think the City Council would have to bear some of the blame in this case, as they're going ahead despite numerous warnings to cancel it. 

I'm relieved to hear the trip to Cardiff is off. It's a pity - but wisest course.