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Sasa
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12 May 2026 16:30:51

Same here. Garden was spared at 1.4C but not the more exposed allotment. Went over there this morning to find all of my potatoes and everybody else's blackened and wilting. Gooseberries, raspberries ok. I don't have any courgettes but others that were in were wrecked completely. Interestingly one plot where the potatoes had only just come through were ok - maybe because the ground temp was marginally warmer and some trickle of radiation saved them. Luckily I've delayed planting out some stuff like runner beans and I brought cucumbers and tomatoes in last night.

My big concern for potatoes is that traditionally they will put up new shoots in 10-14 days time but I'm not so sure they will. The soil is bone dry which won't encourage new growth. If we water there is a danger that the damaged cells will just rot with the continuing cold of the next few days. I think I will wait till we get a warm spell then give them a good watering.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Yes, and I would say a lot depends on your position within the allotments. I have a patch of tomatoes close to some large conifers and about 90% survived the previous night. About 10 metres further away, nothing would have survived. Because I knew that patch was more exposed to the cold, I delayed planting the tomatoes there until this Saturday.

Potatoes will come back. We may get a decent shower tomorrow, but if I were you I would still water them to make sure there is enough moisture in the ground. Also bear in mind that at this time of year temperatures are measured at around hip height, whereas close to the ground it can actually be several degrees warmer.

One of my allotments is on a site with a very slight slope. My plot is at the bottom, where the cold air collects, and members whose plots are further uphill tend to fare much better. The main point is that it is worth understanding these microclimates as an allotment holder and keeping track of them so you can adjust accordingly.

On the whole, this has been one of the worst springs I can remember in the past 10 years. Luckily, my peach and apricot trees remain largely unaffected, as do the cherry trees.

On a separate note, I purchased a couple of these protective nets and I think they are a game changer. They zip around the tree and tie onto the support frame. They should stop not only birds as the cherries ripen, but also SWD flies, which are responsible for maggots in cherries. I am very impressed. The plan is to set up a cherry and morello cherry orchard of around six or seven trees and use these covers to finally harvest close to 100% of the crop for a change. They can also be used to protect pears and plums as well. The ones below are very big though and I would stick with dward root stock which can grow up to 2 - 2.5 meters:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Insect-Mesh-Protection-Drawstring-Strawberry/dp/B0GCN7BSTX/ref=sr_1_15?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BEEzJ3pXapbA9C-Qa18UQVL9DpIQ7NVMEOi98NG_lkZ7DIvd20-LA1P3Jxzl2QSQBoFuZTh_GmKqD4SPUxO5nAJEElffxN2IKI9EwHJWGVxOfpIBYmu575Sw83isAoqjiDNz8hqCJQvDSnl_GtjyWajpRx5wn1vB3tzXne5iLUboj2pfn9PK1EY9VbWOXkOLnmRDHykA-rTn8D6v-8XQTFx_mbEJGI3ojBywChGbQSsnb42RXudmNsHX6vnDk9D0B1OORwnkOOHhiqDHOG5VUGRn8BF4A9yGwAf66jItS6E.cR4CZNW7B9kRZTdye8kyt-hAers_fEaKwzxmo2T9-Ic&dib_tag=se&keywords=Fruit+Tree+Netting&qid=1778403131&sr=8-15 


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fairweather
13 May 2026 00:29:20

Yes, and I would say a lot depends on your position within the allotments. I have a patch of tomatoes close to some large conifers and about 90% survived the previous night. About 10 metres further away, nothing would have survived. Because I knew that patch was more exposed to the cold, I delayed planting the tomatoes there until this Saturday.

Potatoes will come back. We may get a decent shower tomorrow, but if I were you I would still water them to make sure there is enough moisture in the ground. Also bear in mind that at this time of year temperatures are measured at around hip height, whereas close to the ground it can actually be several degrees warmer.

One of my allotments is on a site with a very slight slope. My plot is at the bottom, where the cold air collects, and members whose plots are further uphill tend to fare much better. The main point is that it is worth understanding these microclimates as an allotment holder and keeping track of them so you can adjust accordingly.

On the whole, this has been one of the worst springs I can remember in the past 10 years. Luckily, my peach and apricot trees remain largely unaffected, as do the cherry trees.

On a separate note, I purchased a couple of these protective nets and I think they are a game changer. They zip around the tree and tie onto the support frame. They should stop not only birds as the cherries ripen, but also SWD flies, which are responsible for maggots in cherries. I am very impressed. The plan is to set up a cherry and morello cherry orchard of around six or seven trees and use these covers to finally harvest close to 100% of the crop for a change. They can also be used to protect pears and plums as well. The ones below are very big though and I would stick with dward root stock which can grow up to 2 - 2.5 meters:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Insect-Mesh-Protection-Drawstring-Strawberry/dp/B0GCN7BSTX/ref=sr_1_15?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BEEzJ3pXapbA9C-Qa18UQVL9DpIQ7NVMEOi98NG_lkZ7DIvd20-LA1P3Jxzl2QSQBoFuZTh_GmKqD4SPUxO5nAJEElffxN2IKI9EwHJWGVxOfpIBYmu575Sw83isAoqjiDNz8hqCJQvDSnl_GtjyWajpRx5wn1vB3tzXne5iLUboj2pfn9PK1EY9VbWOXkOLnmRDHykA-rTn8D6v-8XQTFx_mbEJGI3ojBywChGbQSsnb42RXudmNsHX6vnDk9D0B1OORwnkOOHhiqDHOG5VUGRn8BF4A9yGwAf66jItS6E.cR4CZNW7B9kRZTdye8kyt-hAers_fEaKwzxmo2T9-Ic&dib_tag=se&keywords=Fruit+Tree+Netting&qid=1778403131&sr=8-15 

Originally Posted by: Sasa 

Yes, indeed, my Stevenson's screen where I measure my temperature is standard Met Office height. Your plot sounds massive compared to mine! Mine is about 7m x 6m. Those nets are very expensive, maybe not for what they are but I try and keep my costs to a minimum else might as well go to the farmer's market!


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Sasa
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13 May 2026 07:13:50

Yes, indeed, my Stevenson's screen where I measure my temperature is standard Met Office height. Your plot sounds massive compared to mine! Mine is about 7m x 6m. Those nets are very expensive, maybe not for what they are but I try and keep my costs to a minimum else might as well go to the farmer's market!

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Faiweather,

My plots keep me fit as well as tennis!

I have 4 and a half  plots, each 10m wide by 20m long.

The nets are very cheap. Yesterday, I ordered 10 cherry trees on dwarf rootstock. In 2 - 3  years, they should each produce around 2–3kg of cherries. To net them with small bags costs only about £4.50 each. Cherries are around £20/kg.

Over time, it will pay for itself, not to mention the fact that I love Morello cherries, especially in cakes and pies, which you cannot really buy readily in the UK.


Kingston Upon Thames
fairweather
13 May 2026 10:54:07
Usual. Showers going north and south as they move from west to east with usual horse shoe protective shield around me.

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S.Essex, 42m ASL
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22 May 2026 14:52:42
Chelsea 2026

If you need garden inspiration, look no further.

https://www.housebeautiful.com/uk/garden/g71329126/chelsea-flower-show-2026-gardens-award-winners/ 

I like No 8, 22 and 25.

Retron might be interested in No 10.

Beast would surely fall for  No 34. 

When it cools down a bit later, I'll do some rearrangements outside the office. 

Anyone else inspired?


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

fairweather
25 May 2026 23:26:57
28 or any of the wilder natural ones for me. None of the ornamental or ones with hard standing appeal. A desert one would be easiest for me!
S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
25 May 2026 23:32:07
So I watered my frost damaged potatoes which encouraged a bit of slug activity but now they are all picking up again and recovering.

Anybody grow carrots or parsnips from seed this year? None of mine, purchased new from Premier Seeds have germinated in over six weeks since sowing at the start of April. I know it's been dry and cold most of Spring but I have been watering them regularly. Beetroots which were sensational last year have been patchy as well. Dodgy seeds from the supplier?


S.Essex, 42m ASL
MRazzell
26 May 2026 07:08:55

So I watered my frost damaged potatoes which encouraged a bit of slug activity but now they are all picking up again and recovering.

Anybody grow carrots or parsnips from seed this year? None of mine, purchased new from Premier Seeds have germinated in over six weeks since sowing at the start of April. I know it's been dry and cold most of Spring but I have been watering them regularly. Beetroots which were sensational last year have been patchy as well. Dodgy seeds from the supplier?

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

I find Premier Seeds to be very hit and miss. I don't avoid them or anything like that but i have had a few packs of various things that never germinated or never germinated fully; Aubergine and Tithonia were the two that let me down last year.

I do tend to stick with them as a supplier as they offer such good value that i'm willing to take the punt. I was in B&Q a few months back and thought i'd pick up some french beans. I don't recall the seed house (Suttons probably) but they were such an extortionate price that I couldn't see how i'd be any better off compared to simply buying french beans pre-grown from my local supermarket. 


Far north of East Sussex. +150m asl.
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26 May 2026 07:12:37
I've had very poor germination from French beans this year. No such problem with squashes (embarrassingly successful - want a few?) alongside them in the conservatory. Both seed packets from local supermarket.
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26 May 2026 07:22:21

28 or any of the wilder natural ones for me. None of the ornamental or ones with hard standing appeal. A desert one would be easiest for me!

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

You could try the Adelaide one perhaps? Having had another look No 4 stands out. Rainwater harvesting, to me, with one of those barrels you can find, is a pointless exercise IMO. 

The best ones I saw were in Turkey, where almost every old property had a huge underground cistern to collect rainfall. Planners in this country are oblivious to making this a requirement in new builds. After all, they and we all know water comes from the mains. 


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South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

fairweather
26 May 2026 09:37:46
I used to collect cacti as a child and grow them from seed. When I got a greenhouse in my earlier married years I built up a considerable collection of about a 100 species. I just find the flowers so diverse and amazing. Got rid of them all now but think I could get away with growing them outdoors now. Might stop the cats crapping in the garden!
S.Essex, 42m ASL
MRazzell
26 May 2026 13:38:42

I used to collect cacti as a child and grow them from seed. When I got a greenhouse in my earlier married years I built up a considerable collection of about a 100 species. I just find the flowers so diverse and amazing. Got rid of them all now but think I could get away with growing them outdoors now. Might stop the cats crapping in the garden!

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

I think you should give it a go and report back to us! I was recommended Optunia Humifosa by this thread last year (apologies, i can't recall who). It deflated like an old balloon from November and looked dead until about a month ago, but it survived the winter under glass in my unheated greenhouse and has started the year well. The plan is to plant it out this year in my rock garden. We certainly didn't get much cold last winter but it was very wet so the jury is out on its long term outdoor prospects. 


Far north of East Sussex. +150m asl.
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26 May 2026 16:30:59
The nearest I get to Cacti are the sempervivums or house leeks. My late Mum had some growing on the tiled outbuilding roof where she lived. I moved some here so I can continue the line. She planted them to stop lightning strikes... Hmm,? Perhaps that's why thunderstorms are becoming as rare as hens teeth around me. 

I can see the towers to my north today. 50 miles or more away. Over Bath and Oxford. The French can cultivate them too over Brest in Britanny. It's not fair.

Watering beckons later in the gloaming and early tomorrow around sunrise. If I can keep up with this, the garden will continue to look great. 

Friday and the weekend look possible for some rain. I wonder and hope it will. The last rain is a distant memory. 


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Sasa
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26 May 2026 23:23:12

So I watered my frost damaged potatoes which encouraged a bit of slug activity but now they are all picking up again and recovering.

Anybody grow carrots or parsnips from seed this year? None of mine, purchased new from Premier Seeds have germinated in over six weeks since sowing at the start of April. I know it's been dry and cold most of Spring but I have been watering them regularly. Beetroots which were sensational last year have been patchy as well. Dodgy seeds from the supplier?

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

B&Q are my preferred supplier. I really miss Wilko!

Growing carrots this year in a large container filled with compost, with the top 5 cm using compost I purchased separately. I’ve never had better results.

Beetroot I grew in containers/tubs and transplanted when they were nearly 10 cm tall. They survived only thanks to watering twice a day.

The pickaxe is still the most useful tool on the allotment as Sahara conditions continue.


Kingston Upon Thames
fairweather
28 May 2026 21:04:40
I am amazed that the carrot seedlings/tiny plants that I transplanted in the allotment have done amazingly well. At least above ground they look great and there are some one inch orange crowns appearing. I watered them a lot at first and have then left them to fend for themselves. They are on a recomposted patch where the beetroots flourished last year. I have another patch where I will have another go at parsnips and carrots because they can both be harvested very late in the autumn if I can just get a batch to germinate. Potatoes are recovering well and I will be planting my runner beans out at the weekend.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Roger Parsons
29 May 2026 04:49:30
I'd like to mow today if the temperature/sunshine allows me. Apart from the No Mow May half. 

I also want to take the jeep for a run to get some fuel - but ist does not have air con and it might feel like driving in Senegal! 😬 I shall drive to the Skegness road and visit Mr Bullwinkle's. [Not joking] checking his prices...

https://fuelmap.co.uk/forecourt/7196/ 

Then a visit to The Walled Garden, I think. Sounds like a plan.

https://www.walledgardenbaumber.co.uk/ 


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Roger Parsons
30 May 2026 16:22:36
Pleased to say I mowed half the lawn this morning - and it was not too much of an effort. The other half is a "No Mow May" area which I shall leave a bit longer to maximise seeding. The contrast is striking, in spite of the dry month.
RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

Osprey
30 May 2026 23:57:50
Hello Roger is your Jeep a WWII model?
Nobody likes a smartass, especially another smartass...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Roger Parsons
31 May 2026 04:13:12

Hello Roger is your Jeep a WWII model?

Originally Posted by: Osprey 

Regrettably no!  It's just a Suzuki - for old time's sake - I used them in West Africa in the 80s. This one I got for beekeeping - took the back seat out and put in a floor so I could move hives off-road. I did once have a Series II Landrover for that - short-wheelbase truck, ex AA.


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

MRazzell
04 June 2026 07:19:11
What a relief it is for the garden to get some rain this week. I've got half a dozen bags of mulch which i think I’ll spread on the borders this weekend to lock in that moisture as I’m sure by the middle of the month we'll be facing drought conditions again. 

A shame about that rather potent wind yesterday, a lot got flattened - There really is little that i like about the wind. Hopefully a bit of rain induced turgidity will pick things up, perhaps a good time for a Chelsea Chop?!


Far north of East Sussex. +150m asl.
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04 June 2026 07:21:09

What a relief it is for the garden to get some rain this week. I've got half a dozen bags of mulch which i think I’ll spread on the borders this weekend to lock in that moisture as I’m sure by the middle of the month we'll be facing drought conditions again. 

A shame about that rather potent wind yesterday, a lot got flattened but I’m hoping a bit of rain induced turgidity will pick things up. Perhaps a good time for a Chelsea Chop?!

Originally Posted by: MRazzell 

Too true - my  rather nice display of foxgloves is now a shambles


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Chichester 12m asl

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04 June 2026 07:25:18
Swings and roundabouts in the gardening world. The near gales strip trees of leaves, but the proper growing rains and high air humidity make the grass and other plants grow in ways they haven't this year.. Love the rain novelty too but for how long? Driving in the rain yesterday seemed like the first time in months. Saturday looks iffy for damaging winds but we'll have to wait for that one. 
Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

MRazzell
04 June 2026 08:10:49
With gardening there will always be setbacks, sometimes monumental, so you've got to take the little wins when you can. I don't like the sound of further wind this weekend so will be keeping an eye on that!

Consistency is important in horticulture and it wasn't long ago that we'd be referring to our Almanacs for guidance and planning but increasingly in the past decade the unpredictability of our weather has made this practice somewhat redundant. Now my overriding goal seems to be preparation for hardship and damage limitation.

A shame about your foxgloves DEW, they should be at their best around now. 


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