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Quantum
20 January 2026 18:56:08

I'll reserve judgement for a day or so but clearly more than a nudge towards the atlantic in the models today, albeit not in a blast LPs through to the Urals kind of way. That does bring the risk of wintry weather at times still as it's not overly mild and cold air remains fairly close by, assuming the more aggressive atlantic idea is continued and verifies of course.

I have a pet theory that the models overplay signals and then moderate over the next 24-48 hours, so I'll keep a degree of optimism going for MBY on that basis and in general it wouldn't surprise me to see colder air more prevalent further north. (As per the 6z GEFS I guess). 

It's not a collapse to mild south westerlies yet, although undoubtedly not anywhere near as good as last nights runs were in terms of ops anyway, will check the ens for signs of life when they come out. (Amusingly you could argue it's where we were a week or so back, with it looking more likely the atlantic would have too much grunt and keep HP to the east and just bounce against the block and spin around the UK).  

Originally Posted by: Hippydave 

Based on American twitter going crazy over the development of this severe NEster I have to assume it has to do with microdevelopments in that feature. Unfortunately we know from experience the atlantic blasting through just as you think we are safe is something that happens all too often. But equally we could wakeup to much more optimistic charts tommorow.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

jhall
20 January 2026 20:56:25
I take a modicum of comfort from the GFS and especially ECM 12Z op runs and ensembles. If today's 0Z runs took as three steps backwards from yesterday's 12Z, today's 12Z runs have regained a step, in the case of the ECM maybe even a step and a half.
Cranleigh, Surrey
squish
20 January 2026 22:01:24
18z quite a correction SW in the energy compared to the earlier ops.  At +84 the low is in Biscay rather than off Brittany. 

Interesting how this plays out down the line....


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ballamar
20 January 2026 22:17:13

18z quite a correction SW in the energy compared to the earlier ops.  At +84 the low is in Biscay rather than off Brittany. 

Interesting how this plays out down the line....

Originally Posted by: squish 

Then the jet stream is supercharged ! It’s a shame but it does look ominous

GroundhogDay
20 January 2026 22:32:40
https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/18_198_mslp850.png 

Charts like this suggest someone could experience some cracking snowfalls during the next two weeks, whilst others just down the road* may be rocking the wader look! 

* M4?


Based in the snow desert that is North Northants
Rob K
20 January 2026 23:22:58
GFS serves up a repeat of Storm Goretti next week. No shortage of cold rain on offer in the coming 10 days!
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Matty H
20 January 2026 23:28:42

Based on American twitter going crazy over the development of this severe NEster I have to assume it has to do with microdevelopments in that feature. Unfortunately we know from experience the atlantic blasting through just as you think we are safe is something that happens all too often. But equally we could wakeup to much more optimistic charts tommorow.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Excellent learning, Q. I think this sort of moderation would be helpful in the early stages of this sort of scenario, for all of our less experienced model watchers. Good to see 

Edit - this forum as useless for iPhone as ever 


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tallyho_83
20 January 2026 23:53:55

GFS serves up a repeat of Storm Goretti next week. No shortage of cold rain on offer in the coming 10 days!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

18z GFS shows a major ssw by +384z:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=2&model=gfs&var=42&run=18&time=228&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 

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BJBlake
21 January 2026 00:05:02
The GFS Pub Run - has 9 members (Pert’s) showing the -5 isotherm or colder over Eastern half at least of the UK - which is 41%. This is a 10% downgrade from yesterday, but without the Eye-candy Op’ and Control runs. The ECM is better still (and the most reliable model remember), so all is not lost, because it was never really found; just a coin toss chance between Atlantic and Cold. At the moment - the Atlantic has the upper hand, but this could all switch back again just as easily. More runs needed - as ever!! I wont call it until Saturday!


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
BJBlake
21 January 2026 00:10:17

The GFS Pub Run - has 9 members (Pert’s) showing the -5 isotherm or colder over Eastern half at least of the UK - which is 41%. This is a 10% downgrade from yesterday, but without the Eye-candy Op’ and Control runs. The ECM is better still (and the most reliable model remember), so all is not lost, because it was never really found; just a coin toss chance between Atlantic and Cold. At the moment - the Atlantic has the upper hand, but this could all switch back again just as easily. More runs needed - as ever!! I wont call it until Saturday!

Originally Posted by: BJBlake 

That’s up to T+144 -for the GFS  but the ECM is good for another 2-3 days.


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
Snow Hoper
21 January 2026 00:20:41

That’s up to T+144 -for the GFS  but the ECM is good for another 2-3 days.

Originally Posted by: BJBlake 

Yeah, just gone through each GFS member and they're not without interest. 


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tallyho_83
21 January 2026 00:55:32

Run the 18z chart from +228. Look at the amazing split of PV like January 2013.


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Retron
21 January 2026 04:42:40
It'll be a quiet morning on here, I suspect. Following the flip from the 12z suites a couple of days ago, we're now looking at thoroughly uninspiring weather for most - lashings of rain, with a succession of southerly-tracking lows trundling across the UK. Flooding will be in the news in a week's time, I'd imagine! 

The output so far this morning (GFS, MetO, GEM, ICON) fails to even get to -2 at 850 down here out to 168, and even further north it's not especially cold. There is deep cold air around, but it's a Shetland thing - quite a big correction northwards in the end, even moreso than the southerly correction that happened over Christmas. 


Leysdown, north Kent
GroundhogDay
21 January 2026 04:49:09
https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/00_234_250mbjet.png 

A very unsettled GFS 0z rolling out, powered along by a rather angry looking Jetstream!

I'm beginning to fear this one *may* not deliver for those of us who live Midlands southwards, but accept we're a few days away from being able to definitely know what next week will bring. 


Based in the snow desert that is North Northants
GroundhogDay
21 January 2026 04:57:04

It'll be a quiet morning on here, I suspect. Following the flip from the 12z suites a couple of days ago, we're now looking at thoroughly uninspiring weather for most - lashings of rain, with a succession of southerly-tracking lows trundling across the UK. Flooding will be in the news in a week's time, I'd imagine! 

The output so far this morning (GFS, MetO, GEM, ICON) fails to even get to -2 at 850 down here out to 168, and even further north it's not especially cold. There is deep cold air around, but it's a Shetland thing - quite a big correction northwards in the end, even moreso than the southerly correction that happened over Christmas. 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

I agree. It feels like we're watching this one ebb away. Such a shame considering the potential, though I guess it has always remained just that, with limited cross model agreement. 

Let's hope for some cheeky upgrades over the coming days!


Based in the snow desert that is North Northants
CField
21 January 2026 05:41:34
2 weeks of intrepidation  for the snowiest spell of weather since 2010 and its looking like "The Atlantic with its trousers temporarily down".I definitely do not discount another cold spell this winter but it's looking more likely it will come as a northerly from mid Atlantic blocking at some point....just how this winter is panning out....worse is no sign of early spring and return of Azores high just rain
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Next day max temp -4 degrees Celsius

Lumi
21 January 2026 06:34:36
Probably going to get 'shot down in flames' for my take on things from this mornings output. Although its advantage Atlantic the colder continental air is still in this game. Perhaps?
Thurlstone

South Yorkshire

230m AMSL

Ally Pally Snowman
21 January 2026 06:34:38
Well the cold spell is dead but the flooding spell is very much alive.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gem&var=18&run=0&time=240&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
GroundhogDay
21 January 2026 06:52:21

Probably going to get 'shot down in flames' for my take on things from this mornings output. Although its advantage Atlantic the colder continental air is still in this game. Perhaps?

Originally Posted by: Lumi 

Well I'm willing to give it til Saturday ,but I'm not at all optimistic after what we've seen during the past 24 hours!

I guess while there's still some cold ens all hope isn't lost, but the trend is most certainly not our friend. 


Based in the snow desert that is North Northants
Lumi
21 January 2026 07:01:24

Well I'm willing to give it til Saturday ,but I'm not at all optimistic after what we've seen during the past 24 hours!

I guess while there's still some cold ens all hope isn't lost, but the trend is most certainly not our friend. 

Originally Posted by: GroundhogDay 

Yes you do right. The 'writing is on the wall' Think I would now prefer things to move on into another phase. Its not hope I'm feeling more surprise. Thought it would be dead and buried this morning. 


Thurlstone

South Yorkshire

230m AMSL

Rob K
21 January 2026 07:40:56
Before looking at the charts I looked at the iPhone app 10 day output and knew it was unlikely to be good. Instead of a steady decline to highs of 2C-3C it’s ping-ponging between 5C and 8C with copious rain almost every day. 

Given some of the output we have seen for the last two weeks this was definitely a Jim Bowen spell - we saw the speedboat but unfortunately Dave with the darts hit treble 1. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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doctormog
21 January 2026 07:53:28
I think this messy situation still needs watching closely. Looking at the ensembles there is a massive amount of uncertainty. It is quite clear that it will turn colder and that it will remain unsettled. What is less clear is will that be average wet and windy or cold and potentially wintry. 

If I had to cherry pick a single chart it would be the day 7 00z ECM chart. For two reasons, for the timescale it is arguably the best indicator available from a single chart and secondly it indicates the range of possibilities, from very unpleasant to quite wintry:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMAVGEU00_168_1.png 

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I still wouldn’t call it either way for next week.


DEW
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21 January 2026 08:57:00
FAX - current LP just west of Britain, backed up by LP covering the N Atlantic, and pushing fronts N-wards across Britain on a (mainly) SE-ly. The Atlantic spits out a deep LP 960mb reaching the Bristol Channel Fri 23rd, stormy for the SW. Then as this moves to W France Sun 25th, E-lies appear for Britain.

GFS Op - On Sun 25th a very deep LP 945 mb develops mid-North-Atlantic with its circulation putting paid to any co-ordinated E-lies, unlike FAX. This LP repeatedly generates secondaries over the following week with quite cold air trapped in local circulations*, any sustained E-lies being confined to Shetland. By the start of next week (Mon 2nd) the main LP has retreated back to the Atlantic and Britain is back to S-ly gales  until Fri 6th when some revival of the Scandi HP produces some colder SE-lies.

(*Local LPs detail, 975mb Cornwall and Northumberland, Tue 27th,  the latter persisting - 970mb SW Ireland Thu 29th, and into Channel - 970mb Hebrides Sun 1st)

ECM - also has a large LP which prevents E-lies developing but differs from GFS in that it doesn't develop secondaries but remains as a unified whole through to Fri 30th with S-ly winds for the whole of the preceding week. By Sun 1st this has filled only to be replace by another LP, closer with a trough across Britain and colder air entrained 945mb west of Ireland Wed 4th but still S/SE-lies. The Scandi HP is absent.

GB News which uses WX charts has backed off from 'feet deep of snow to cover Britain', posted earlier this morning, to 'apocalyptic floods' in its most recent weather prediction.

AIFS - London maxima dropping from 10C now to about 5C in a few days' time and staying there; rain mostly midweek, less wet at each of the next two weekends, winds S-ly at first, going round mostly N-ly from Sun 1st. Edinburgh, maxima dropping fairly steadily from 7C now to 2C Sun 1st, rain on and off until the 1st then drier, winds E-ly until the 1st, then mostly N-ly.

GEFS - In England, temps close to or fractionally below norm, both mean and nearly all ens members, to Fri 6th. Heavy rain in the S for w/b Tue 27th, not exactly dry at other times; in the SW and Wales the rain never lets up. In Scotland, mean and ens members 2 or 3C below norm, rain peaks on 27th , small amounts at other times. Snow row figures grading from about 50% of max possible in N Scotland to about 10% in S England.

Cold rain and S-ly gales appear to be the salient features for the coming ten days or so.


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warrenb
21 January 2026 09:05:16
As I said yesterday, Ketley high with Shetland getting smashed.
doctormog
21 January 2026 09:08:56

As I said yesterday, Ketley high with Shetland getting smashed.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 

Is the "Ketley High" what gave the NE of Scotland its snowiest February this century? If so that was predominantly northerly air flows not easterly.


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