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fairweather
08 January 2026 10:35:16
Okay, this has been a cold spell of some note and a bit of snow for England and one of the best for years for parts of Scotland, especially around Aberdeen. It's over for now but it is impossible to say the models won't be showing something different in 10 days time going forwards. We will be in exactly the same position as we were 10 days before New Year's Day and look what happened. Very little went as planned other than it was cold. The detail changed all the time right up until yesterday. Yes, the odds on the rest of the winter not giving another decent cold spell are against us, they always will be these days. But they are no greater or less than they were at the start for the next 6 or 7 weeks other than it is unlikely to last a month or longer!
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Arbroath 1320
08 January 2026 11:26:37
A quick look at the GFS 6z ENS at 210, suggests there's not much support for the more progressive OP run. In fact, many are stalling the Atlantic and keeping the cold uppers over or close to the UK. Interesting output given the 6z is often seen as being the most progressive GFS run.
Kenmore, Highland Perthshire, GGTTH
Quantum
08 January 2026 11:30:21
For anyone still grasping at straws the 6Z is a bit of an improvement.

The whole thing seems to be a difference in how that low over scotland is handeled, if the upper trough pulls it north and weakens it then the atlantic low takes a more southerly track.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

westv
08 January 2026 11:33:54

For anyone still grasping at straws the 6Z is a bit of an improvement.

The whole thing seems to be a difference in how that low over scotland is handeled, if the upper trough pulls it north and weakens it then the atlantic low takes a more southerly track.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Just embrace the mild. šŸ˜‚


At least it will be mild!
tallyho_83
08 January 2026 11:37:27

Yes very unusual as usually with an east QBO combined with la nina there is a 70% or more chance of an SSW. - Still time. The PV continues to look ragged and displaced though.


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doctormog
08 January 2026 11:41:03
I’m still going to reserve judgement at the moment regarding next week. especially in light of the Met Office in-depth analysis of the situation.
Retron
08 January 2026 12:21:48

Yes very unusual as usually with an east QBO combined with la nina there is a 70% or more chance of an SSW. - Still time. The PV continues to look ragged and displaced though.

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Don't forget we already hadĀ an SSW, back in November.

As for FW's comment, the EC46 picked out a good chance of a cold spell from well before the New Year, as I commented at the time:

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-2t?base_time=202512210000&projection=opencharts_europe&valid_time=202601120000 

It offers nothing for coldies on today's output, aside from next week.


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
08 January 2026 12:33:17

I’m still going to reserve judgement at the moment regarding next week. especially in light of the Met Office in-depth analysis of the situation.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I'm facing a real internal battle at the moment between my logical/skeptical side and my emotional side. The former tells me that the Met analysis is now completely outdated and came almost immediately after that ECM run. The later wants me to keep looking for straws. There are only 1 or 2 ensembles now that keep the dream just about alive.Ā 

If we did come back from something like T+72h it would be truly unbelievable.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

fairweather
08 January 2026 12:36:09

Don't forget we already hadĀ an SSW, back in November.

As for FW's comment, the EC46 picked out a good chance of a cold spell from well before the New Year, as I commented at the time:

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-2t?base_time=202512210000&projection=opencharts_europe&valid_time=202601120000 

It offers nothing for coldies on today's output, aside from next week.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

That was my point actually. It wasn't more than two weeks before it started showing in the other models though. What the models say now for 10 days time don't accurately predict the following 10 days and weeks. SO in 10 days time the odds are that it will be predicting mild because of where we are with the climate but winter is certainly not over yet - but maybe a six week big freeze is!


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Quantum
08 January 2026 12:38:26
Urgh you know its over when people start talking about SSWs!Ā 

On the plus side MJO back in high amp phase 7 by the end of the month, so a cold end to january more likely than normal.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/MJO/CLIVAR/clivar_wh.shtml 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

doctormog
08 January 2026 13:52:46
I have to say that the 06z ends on an intriguing note. Where would things progress from there?

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU06_144_1.png 


Chichesterweatherfan2
08 January 2026 14:23:27
The latest Met office Ā 10 day update makes for VERY sobering reading….if you don’t like mild weather in winter!Ā 
doctormog
08 January 2026 14:31:39

The latest Met office Ā 10 day update makes for VERY sobering reading….if you don’t like mild weather in winter!Ā 

Originally Posted by: Chichesterweatherfan2 

Let’s see if that has the equivalent effect on the outlook that yesterday’s ā€œoppositeā€ forecast did. šŸ˜‚


bowser
08 January 2026 14:57:06

Let’s see if that has the equivalent effect on the outlook that yesterday’s ā€œoppositeā€ forecast did. šŸ˜‚

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I think I'd take 2 weeks of hairdryer southerlies at this point... Snow fatigue. Fairly hits the body too.

Quantum
08 January 2026 14:58:01
I'm reluctant to offer hope when it is clearly hopeless. Yet ICON12z so far looks remarkably different to the 6Z wrg that low over Scotland. I'd expect a more negitive tilt on the atlantic low as a result.

Its curious the weak low over Scotland is so difficult for the models compared to the main thing further south.

The badly handeled bit is CAA from scandanavia that generates an upper trough that then pulls the Scottish low apart to the east and north east. The more this happens the better for us, because it stops the atlantic low from phasing with the left over scottish cold core from the low later on. If the 12Z has suddenly upgraded that initial CAA then perhaps we can keep the hope alive for 6 more hours.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Quantum
08 January 2026 15:09:33
The ARPEGE offers no such hope though I should add the scottish low looks so completely different, that in a best case scenario perhaps the models just have no idea what's going on with it, and maybe we can luck out.

I mean definitely not, but still.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

warrenb
08 January 2026 15:16:17
ICON the Atlantic hits a brick wall
Retron
08 January 2026 15:21:43

Urgh you know its over when people start talking about SSWs!Ā 

On the plus side MJO back in high amp phase 7 by the end of the month, so a cold end to january more likely than normal.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Never did get the fuss over the MJO - it's just a way of looking at the GEFS rainfall charts for the Indian Ocean. As you're using the GEFS, you may just as well look directly at the Atlantic charts as it's all factored in anyway! It'd be like trying to predict synoptics from looking at the NAO charts - a rough idea, but no more.Ā 


Leysdown, north Kent
doctormog
08 January 2026 16:20:16
The temperatures for next week (so far) look a few degrees cooler than in the previous couple of GFS runs on the 12z op.
Rob K
08 January 2026 17:35:54
The long-range charts are starting to get a horribly familiar look: purples top left and orange bottom right and lots of almost straight parallel lines running from bottom left to top right.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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western100
08 January 2026 17:42:39
You know there’s some desperation when SSWs are being searched as the saviour of a winterĀ 

I think meto were hasty with their detailed update which was a cold driven message (also unusual for them). Felt like one ECM run showing a mini ice cage sparked a quick videoĀ 

Always go Mild and you’ll have a decent chance of an outcome that’s fairly accurateĀ 

Isn’t it like 1 in 20 months now below the 61-90 average? Something like thatĀ 

This month has a chance of coming in below all CET averages, if it did, then that’s the champagne out

It’s been a notable cold spell which started before Christmas. Christmas was bitter with that easterly wind.Ā 

I’ve not recorded above 10C since December 18th , not bad going in this age. It is sad to think a celebration is now not getting over 10C in winter haha


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doctormog
08 January 2026 17:43:38

The long-range charts are starting to get a horribly familiar look: purples top left and orange bottom right and lots of almost straight parallel lines running from bottom left to top right.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Except there is little consistency run to run in the operational runs in the medium term nevermind the long term. I would check the short to medium term changes over the next few runs before focussing on what follows. I’d say the medium to longer term (from now) may only become clearer by Saturday or Sunday.


Rob K
08 January 2026 19:51:36

Except there is little consistency run to run in the operational runs in the medium term nevermind the long term. I would check the short to medium term changes over the next few runs before focussing on what follows. I’d say the medium to longer term (from now) may only become clearer by Saturday or Sunday.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I think the models were chopping and changing until today’s storm was pinned down. It’s taken a northern track and that seems to be enough to ensure that the block to the east gets steamrollered flat.Ā 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Boardshark
08 January 2026 20:42:43
If it pushes through as it has stalled
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Snow Hoper
08 January 2026 20:47:57
Looks like my idea of more of an easterly influence never left the drawing board. I'm still not convinced it'll be as straightforward a return to Atlantic dominance as being modeled at the moment. More runs needed.
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