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scillydave
07 January 2026 10:43:36
Arpege 6z goes for 100mph+ gusts for the Isles of Scilly and 90mph+ for the West of Cornwall. 

Spare a thought gor the Channel Islands though - Arpege suggests a 9 hour period of gusts in excess of 100mph.

I imagine it's overcooking it however it's the strongest wind speeds I've seen modelled for the Southwest at this time scale for a good while.


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

Tim A
07 January 2026 10:50:39
https://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/harmonie/runs/2026010707/harmonieeur43-45-47-3.png?07-09 

https://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/harmonie/runs/2026010707/harmonieeur43-26-47-3.png?07-09 

Anyone know why the "cumulative snowy precipitation" totals on Harmoine show lower amounts than the "Snow depth" charts?  Normally the other way around with most models.  Makes me think they are just random nonsense.  


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NW Leeds

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scillydave
07 January 2026 11:11:34
As expected Amber warning now out for the Isles of Scilly and far Southwest of Cornwall for gusts of 80- 90mph.
Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

Ally Pally Snowman
07 January 2026 11:18:49

As expected Amber warning now out for the Isles of Scilly and far Southwest of Cornwall for gusts of 80- 90mph.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

Yes looks like a significant event down there.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Brian Gaze
07 January 2026 11:26:40
I should know this, but I don’t: does the Met Office update all warnings in a batch, or are they updated one by one? An amber wind warning has appeared for the South West, but the snow warnings appear unchanged. Is that because updates are issued individually, or is it because the snow warnings are not changing?
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doctormog
07 January 2026 11:33:30

I should know this, but I don’t: does the Met Office update all warnings in a batch, or are they updated one by one? An amber wind warning has appeared for the South West, but the snow warnings appear unchanged. Is that because updates are issued individually, or is it because the snow warnings are not changing?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I don’t think it’s done as a batch, rather the updates are usually done at a similar time. So I would guess if the snow warning was going to change it would do so very shortly (or maybe they will wait until they had more clarity on the highest risk areas).


Saint Snow
07 January 2026 11:57:10
Quick summary of the various latest output for snow chances in the Merseyside/Manchester region from this feature, and ranked from best to worst scenario

GFS 6z - light to moderate wet/marginal snow for 10-12 hours from 6pm, increasingly snow later

GEM 0z - heavier ppn to our south; period of light snow overnight

ECM HR 0z - heavier ppn to our south; light rain turning to light snow

Icon 6z - Misses this region, keeps us almost dry

UK MO 0z - heavier ppn to our south; on-off period of rain & hill snow

ECM AIFS 6z - mostly misses this region; just some light/patchy rain/sleet/snow

Arpege 6z - mostly misses this region; just some light/patchy rain/sleet/snow

AIGFS 6z - mostly misses this region; just some light/patchy rain/sleet/snow

UKV 6z - mostly misses this region; just some light/patchy rain

ECM 0z - mostly misses this region; just some light/patchy rain

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idj20
07 January 2026 12:17:51
Talk about dodging a bullet here at Kent wind-wise associated with Thursday night's low pressure. Hopefully it'll stay that way or even trend further south.

 

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Other models are also showing a similar thing.


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Rob K
07 January 2026 12:18:17
Quite a temperature gradient here:

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/arpege/06_37_uk2mtmpsohd.png 

+10 to subzero in the space of about 60 or 70 miles.

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ballamar
07 January 2026 12:48:52
Think this could rival Dec 1990 for the Birmingham area, definitely could be a disruptive event
The Beast from the East
07 January 2026 12:50:16
the 6z models do suggest trending south.  the system hasnt formed yet hence the uncertainty 
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Quantum
07 January 2026 12:55:05
Again sorry for the northern-centric posts but I wish to draw attention to this feature again:

https://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2026010706/51-173UK.GIF?07-6 

This is low level vorticity, its good for seeing where the fronts and features are. Anyway notice that vertically aligned stripe withy the strongest colours over Newcastle.

I really hope the air is going to be cold enough, because I can't think of anything worse than being stuck under a stationary front with pouring rain for the best part of 12 hours. I'm sure it will eventually turn to snow as the continental airmass digs in, but not much consolation if we end up with alot of really cold rain.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Essan
07 January 2026 13:03:35

I should know this, but I don’t: does the Met Office update all warnings in a batch, or are they updated one by one?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Clearly the latter as an amber warning for snow across parts of Wales and Midlands has now been issued in addition to the earlier one for wind in the SW

(southern edge of the amber snow warning runs straight through my house!)


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Saint Snow
07 January 2026 13:08:34

Clearly the latter as an amber warning for snow across parts of Wales and Midlands has now been issued in addition to the earlier one for wind in the SW

(southern edge of the amber snow warning runs straight through my house!)

Originally Posted by: Essan 

The yellow warning studiously detours away from and around NW England.


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Tim A
07 January 2026 13:09:32
Not sure the precipitation (other than drizzle ) will even make it this far?

9Z UKV doesn't seem to think so.  Icon 12Z (Yes 12Z!) doesn't either and shows South Midlands best.


Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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Quantum
07 January 2026 13:34:33

Not sure the precipitation (other than drizzle ) will even make it this far?

9Z UKV doesn't seem to think so.  Icon 12Z (Yes 12Z!) doesn't either and shows South Midlands best.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

I'm fairly confident it will. The scandi airmass starts to engage and we get a separate frontal system extending north. We also get orographic lift and some convective effects.

What I'm worried about is whether it will be snow. Elevation will of course help.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

nsrobins
07 January 2026 14:28:12
An Amber(s) upgrade is understandable, and I still maintain that the wind speed will be the headline rather than the snow (but not to dismiss the snow risk).

The potential for 100mph gusts is evident. What is uncertain is where?


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Brian Gaze
07 January 2026 14:31:02
Arome 06Z view.

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scillydave
07 January 2026 15:47:55
GFS 12z pushes the storm about 20 miles further North and with it the associated hazards. It gives a mean wind speed (not gusts!) of 73mph for the Isles of Scilly.

A red warning in the offing if this output continues I'd imagine.

Edit - Arpege also has it further north by a similar margin.


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

Tim A
07 January 2026 16:06:11
Regardless of whether it snows in anyone's back yard, will be really interesting to see what happens with this low, where it ends up.  GFS further North with the wintry risk.  Nightmare to forecast. 
Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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Brian Gaze
07 January 2026 16:11:15
ICON-D2 15Z is rolling out at the moment. Worth checking because of the later initiation data and short lead time.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/icon-d2.aspx 


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idj20
07 January 2026 16:35:12
The GFS (more like FGS) is showing the compact low slightly north thus bringing more of the wind field over Kent - and of course in the middle of the night (every time!). Other models are still on the fence, though (ICON and UKMO showing it bypassing to my south).
Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
nsrobins
07 January 2026 16:41:59

The GFS (more like FGS) is showing the compact low slightly north thus bringing more of the wind field over Kent - and of course in the middle of the night (every time!). Other models are still on the fence, though (ICON and UKMO showing it bypassing to my south).

Originally Posted by: idj20 

Check out the latest ICON D2 (link in Brian’s post). 80mph gusts just 10 miles to you South now.

A further nudge North is conceivable and I still fear wind will be the headline.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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Quantum
07 January 2026 16:54:35

Regardless of whether it snows in anyone's back yard, will be really interesting to see what happens with this low, where it ends up.  GFS further North with the wintry risk.  Nightmare to forecast. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

My gut instinct is you will probably be okay. Again I don't think you have to worry about the precip, it will get that far north. And I think you are just far enough West to avoid most of the rain. If I had to guess I'd say a few inches of wet snow for you. Elevation matters though, I suspect the city centre won't see much at all.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Jersey Phil
07 January 2026 19:00:41
Local media here in the Channel Islands are advising against travel after 8pm tomorrow.  This has the makings of a really bad one, a couple of years after our hurricane (with embedded tornado) in Jersey.  Could easily see gusts of 100+mph.
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