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Ally Pally Snowman
16 December 2025 09:09:04
This is the direction of travel we want.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=5&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
idj20
16 December 2025 09:24:02
The latest 00z GFS OP is showing a small chance of some wintry precipitation to here at Kent late Christmas Day. A long way off and is definitely subject to changes but would be cool if that actually come off come the moment . . .

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Not looked at the ensembles as I don't want to spoil this small bit of anticipation for now. 


Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
Brian Gaze
16 December 2025 09:46:34
ECM ENS snow percentages for London.

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Brian Gaze

Berkhamsted

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16 December 2025 09:56:48
Don't forget the +GW factor for the end product
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Quantum
16 December 2025 10:27:26
OK synoptics look very good 23rd December onwards. Lots of northern blocking, rapidly quietening Atlantic.

Yes some runs have a cold easterly feed too, but at this stage its just one of several ideas. Even if we don't get the initial long fetch easterly, the pattern offers plenty of opportunities for a cold incursion down the road.

I'd say there is a good chance for something interesting before 2026 and a very high chance of drier weather and/or northern blocking. 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Rob K
16 December 2025 10:27:33
6Z GFS op run is raising a festive eyebrow... easterly incoming for Christmas Day, albeit with the usual modern-day shortage of cold air.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Quantum
16 December 2025 10:30:28

6Z GFS op run is raising a festive eyebrow... easterly incoming for Christmas Day, albeit with the usual modern-day shortage of cold air.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

I wouldn't worry too much about that unless an actual white xmas is what you are betting on. The pattern is good, cold air will inevitably get caught up in the feed at some point. The question is, will the blocking last long enough or will the surge come early enough. 

But the models have high confidence that Saturday's low will be the last one for a while; then we enter a new regime of rapidly rising heights to our north and lowering heights to our south. 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

idj20
16 December 2025 10:43:53

The latest 00z GFS OP is showing a small chance of some wintry precipitation to here at Kent late Christmas Day. A long way off and is definitely subject to changes but would be cool if that actually come off come the moment . . .

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Not looked at the ensembles as I don't want to spoil this small bit of anticipation for now. 

Originally Posted by: idj20 

The 06z run does keep that slight winter hope alive on the big day, but likely to be light and marginal stuff based on elevation - as often the case these days. Still, it is the nearest we are getting to in seemingly years. 


Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
The Beast from the East
16 December 2025 11:16:23

The 06z run does keep that slight winter hope alive on the big day, but likely to be light and marginal stuff based on elevation - as often the case these days. Still, it is the nearest we are getting to in seemingly years. 

Originally Posted by: idj20 

since 1981 round here.  I wasnt alive in 1970 when it was a proper White Christmas here.  Unlikely to happen but considering the mild crap we normally get this is very positive. A rare win for us battle weary model watchers


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Rob K
16 December 2025 11:24:11

since 1981 round here.  I wasnt alive in 1970 when it was a proper White Christmas here.  Unlikely to happen but considering the mild crap we normally get this is very positive. A rare win for us battle weary model watchers

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

At least suggests there might be some frost - ice of any description has been a rarity at Christmas recently, except in festive drinks. The last frozen Christmas I can remember was 2010 which still had plenty of snow on the ground in Hants and a deep cold even if there wasn't any snow on the day itself.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Chunky Pea
16 December 2025 11:35:48

I wouldn't worry too much about that unless an actual white xmas is what you are betting on. The pattern is good, cold air will inevitably get caught up in the feed at some point. The question is, will the blocking last long enough or will the surge come early enough. 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

The potential for some freezing fog around Christmas seems there. That would whiten everthing up in a more pleasing why than snow in my opinion. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

fairweather
16 December 2025 13:06:00
From a gardener's and growers point of view round here I would like to see some frosts now to kill off the pests. Then some decent snowfall (or rain, if we can't have that) in January and February to get some moisture back in the ground when the growing season starts again in the inevitably dry Spring!
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Quantum
16 December 2025 13:38:44
500hpa NHem pattern Height+Temp for 22nd December

https://modeles3.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2025121606/ecmwfnh-13-144.png?0 

Key features. Split tropospheric polar vortex. Canadian part north of the Hudson bay 480/-46C and Siberian part over NE siberia at 496/-46C. The Canadian part is a bit more concentrated than the Siberian part which isn't ideal. In the middle we have a weak arctic ridge; the models are notoriously poor at getting the placement of this right; so it could be much stronger deep anticyclone or so weak the two vortex lobes are merged. Both scenarios are possible even at T+144h. 

At lower latitudes we have a deep ridge extending to Greenland and a small cutoff low in the azores region. So its a decent pattern but lots could be improved on.

The ridge could merge with the ridge over the arctic and push that Siberian vortex SW which could result in a cold siberian easterly. The vortex could reform over the arctic and the deep ridge goes instead to scandanavia giving a bit of a short fetch scandi high type setup at the surface. The strength of the azores cutoff is also important. If that's too weak then the deep ridge could sink and give a Euro/UK high type setup. Some models also suggest possible northerlies if the Canadian vortex weakens a bit and the deep ridge pushes further west.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Lionel Hutz
16 December 2025 13:59:21
There's lots of potential, it could be a Christmas holiday to remember for weather reasons for once. However, we've all been here before and have seen it go belly up with 72 hours or less to go. Many more runs needed.
Lionel Hutz

Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland

68m ASL



DEW
  • DEW
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16 December 2025 14:09:15

From a gardener's and growers point of view round here I would like to see some frosts now to kill off the pests. Then some decent snowfall (or rain, if we can't have that) in January and February to get some moisture back in the ground when the growing season starts again in the inevitably dry Spring!

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

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Chunky Pea
16 December 2025 14:21:54
If you look at this 850hPa temp anomaly sequence from the GEFS, it is amazing to see how the intense cold currently in Canada is going to end up being the direct trigger of  the fairly significant Euro cool down over the next few weeks. 

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Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

warrenb
16 December 2025 15:14:45
I know it is ICON but this has the low sliding as soon as Sunday.
Retron
16 December 2025 16:32:18
The 12z GFS repeats yesterday's feat of having a textbook easterly over the UK on Christmas Day, albeit without much in the way of snow. 

The time of year is unusual, but we've seen this sort of thing 9 or 10 days out many times over the years. The usual process is that it gets closer, with all the models wobbling a bit, then a small trough or low pops up nearer to the time and spoils things. 

That said, specifics can wait for now. The general pattern remains one of things turning a fair bit colder next week, and given the exceptional warmth so far this month it'll certainly be noticed!


Leysdown, north Kent
squish
16 December 2025 16:42:13
UKMO at +168 pretty much the same. The models do seem to have fallen into line quite quickly on this one.....and it's+156/168 not +240.

But we have all seen this before...and then it's gone.**

Makes bed recovery from flu slightly more interesting!

**The GEM being a case in point ( as was JMA this morning)


D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
The Beast from the East
16 December 2025 16:52:49

UKMO at +168 pretty much the same. The models do seem to have fallen into line quite quickly on this one.....and it's+156/168 not +240.

But we have all seen this before...and then it's gone.**

Makes bed recovery from flu slightly more interesting!

**The GEM being a case in point ( as was JMA this morning)

Originally Posted by: squish 

Good to see you posting again.  We know cold weather is around when I see your name!


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Heavy Weather 2013
16 December 2025 17:20:18
Im heading to Weston Super Mare for Christmas. This fact alone will increase the verification haha.

It’s really good to see consistent modelling. Of course lots to get through in the days ahead. But at least a colder outlook is on the cards, I’m sick of this mild gunk - it hasn’t felt festive at all.

I feel like there is a lot of consistency in the broad pattern atm, that low as as a trigger - perhaps me reminds of the nailed on easterly from 2018 when the broad pattern just kept repeating and felt locked in.


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

squish
16 December 2025 17:30:00
12z gfs control very much along the same lines...and the majority of members have a variation on the easterly

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSP08EU12_240_2.png 

personally I would take run no.8 for delayed cold ( only a day or two) but a proper north easterly


D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
idj20
16 December 2025 17:50:21
I would bank the 12z OP for the benign set up over the entire festive period, even if it doesn't lead to anything noteworthy in terms of wintry weather. Anything to keep the Angry Atlantic at arms length for as long as it possibly can during deep Winter period suits me fine.  Comforting to think that daylight start drawing out in less a weeks time.
Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
Tim A
16 December 2025 17:56:35
Nice pattern but need it to be a few degrees colder otherwise a risk it will be vile damp rain off the North Sea which is not much better than the current weather. 
Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

 My PWS 

Quantum
16 December 2025 17:57:11
Focusing on T+144h which I think is 22nd at 12pm

12Z is better

- Siberian polar vortex is a bit stronger and the Canadian part is a bit weaker

- Arctic ridge is a bit stronger

- Greenland ridge is quite a bit stronger and warmer 

- Azores cutoff low is a bit stronger, further SW and further from that Canadian lobe (if it merges into it, that's bad news)


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

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