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moomin75
20 June 2025 10:37:11

Not much sign of depressed temperatures on the 6Z GFS, at least for the southeast. Only two days of the next 10 (starting today) fail to reach 25C and four of them hit 30C. Mid 30s again by next weekend.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yup. GFS like a dog with a bone on possible heatwave conditions again later next week.

ECM/UKMO remain in the cooler camp, so at the moment, it's anyone's guess what we will be seeing later next week.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

20 June 2025 10:40:55

I think the Beeb are siding with ECM/UKMO as the app is showing quite depressed temperatures and a fair amount of rain or showers around for the next 10 days in my area.

I know the app is a bit crap, but it is showing very changeable and quite cool conditions. 

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

You mean like the current depressed cool and unsettled conditions?


Berkshire
Rob K
20 June 2025 10:59:40

GFS sticking with the repeated pattern of high pressure building from the south with warm upper air (high teens at 850mb) then temporarily being flattened out by Atlantic lows that never really make make much of a dent in the high and get deflected off to the northeast. The result being heat building from mid 20s to low 30s, then a brief dip to lower 20s, rinse and repeat. It can keep doing that all summer as far as I am concerned 🙂 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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20 June 2025 11:38:59
Just taken a look at the ECM 0z ensembles. They definitely show a large number of cooler options around June 26-27. Then the balance shifts to warmer options as we approach the end of the month. Too much noise yet to draw any conclusions but if my "hunch" of following the majority of runs (rather than the average) is correct, we could see a big dip followed by a rise in ECM ensemble temperatures for that time period as time goes on.  
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Rob K
20 June 2025 12:45:46

Sorting the GEFS members by temperature gives a nice visualisation on the table view on Meteociel:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=6&ext=1&mode=7&sort=1 

definitely another peak centred around the 28th-29th with the median 2m max in London being about 26C.

P13 is the obligatory scorchio run, hitting 39C.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Rob K
20 June 2025 14:10:15

The latest UKV actually has tomorrow as the hottest day, with a 34C modelled in S Yorks/Lincs. It iwll be interesting to see if it is right with the hottest conditions that far north.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Seems pretty accurate even if the heat may have been overcooked. Highest temps currently are up in the northeast with Albemarle and Newcastle airport on a rounded 30C! Still lots of cloud around but it's now Ac castellanus rather than the featureless cirrostratus.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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moomin75
20 June 2025 15:29:55
ICON 12z first out as always, and no dressing this up any other way, cool and wet as early as 138 hours.
Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

warrenb
20 June 2025 15:31:04

I saw it come out and was waiting for the post. 🙂


moomin75
20 June 2025 15:33:21

I saw it come out and was waiting for the post. :)

Originally Posted by: warrenb 

Well I'm not wrong am I? Yes, one run, one model, but looks really wet later next week, and cool or even very cool.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

warrenb
20 June 2025 15:34:58

Well I'm not wrong am I? Yes, one run, one model, but looks really wet later next week, and cool or even very cool.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

You weren't wrong, but now you are. It is not really wet and neither is it very cool.


moomin75
20 June 2025 15:46:52

You weren't wrong, but now you are. It is not really wet and neither is it very cool.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 

The precipitation chart on Meteociel suggests otherwise. 20-30mm over a 24-36 hour period is pretty wet in my book.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

warrenb
20 June 2025 16:02:36

The precipitation chart on Meteociel suggests otherwise. 20-30mm over a 24-36 hour period is pretty wet in my book.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Yes in NW Scotland, The lake district get 20-30mm, but mostly from TStorms tomorrow. The rest of the country 20-30mm accum over the entire run.


moomin75
20 June 2025 16:17:08

Still no trend from GFS which is also, like ICON, much cooler now for next week.

The cross model trend is definitely cooler and more changeable, but not unusable weather. 

However, once this weekend is out of the way, we are I think looking at a spell of temps at or slightly below average, nationwide.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Rob K
20 June 2025 16:29:27
GFS sticking to its high pressure guns for the next week. And certainly not much sign of below average temperatures, at least not in the south. The coolest day next week on GFS 12Z (Thursday) has a max of 23C which is still above average I think?

For my location the max temps from tomorrow until next Sunday run 30, 24, 22, 25, 24, 22, 24, 29, 32.

10-day rain chart isn't out yet but the 5-day one has 1mm accumulated ppn out to Wednesday.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Ally Pally Snowman
20 June 2025 16:40:18

Still no trend from GFS which is also, like ICON, much cooler now for next week.

The cross model trend is definitely cooler and more changeable, but not unusable weather. 

However, once this weekend is out of the way, we are I think looking at a spell of temps at or slightly below average, nationwide.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Bitter in the wind probably some snow on hills. 😁

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=17&run=12&time=219&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
moomin75
20 June 2025 16:40:24

GFS sticking to its high pressure guns for the next week. And certainly not much sign of below average temperatures, at least not in the south. The coolest day next week on GFS 12Z (Thursday) has a max of 23C which is still above average I think?

For my location the max temps from tomorrow until next Sunday run 30, 24, 22, 25, 24, 22, 24, 29, 32.

10-day rain chart isn't out yet but the 5-day one has 1mm accumulated ppn out to Wednesday.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

UKMO firmly in the ICON camp, unsettled and much cooler next week.

GFS looking increasingly isolated. 


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Brian Gaze
20 June 2025 16:41:50

Furnace heat again on this afternoon's GFS. 

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moomin75
20 June 2025 16:45:31

Furnace heat again on this afternoon's GFS. 

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Very isolated though Brian when weighing up the other models.

No other model has got anywhere near this. GFS is not having its finest hour just lately.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Matty H
20 June 2025 16:55:27

Very isolated though Brian when weighing up the other models.

No other model has got anywhere near this. GFS is not having its finest hour just lately.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Hang on, the other day you pointed out the folly of criticising something for what hasn’t happened yet in the future??

GFS has performed rather well over this spell actually. Change the record 


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Ally Pally Snowman
20 June 2025 17:06:56

Tbf UKMO is rubbish  but I never rate it's 144h/168h charts.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
20 June 2025 17:08:02

Very isolated though Brian when weighing up the other models.

No other model has got anywhere near this. GFS is not having its finest hour just lately.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

To apply a bit of balance, GEM 12Z also keeps high pressure and warmth in charge right out to the end of the month.

I suspect as often the case the reality will be somewhere between the two: not the 15C and unsettled of some models, but also not the 34C hairdryer of the GFS.

A halfway house of low to high 20s in the south and plenty of sunshine with perhaps the odd showery day, then.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Ally Pally Snowman
20 June 2025 17:43:07

Decent AIFS run again, brings in the heat at 168h. It's been very consistent with this. It is also the best performing model atm


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
20 June 2025 17:47:06

I see that the BBC TV forecast had the temperatures back up to the high 20s in the SE by the time we got to the end of next week. This probably reflects the model output quite well. It will be cooler and probably more unsettled at times elsewhere, especially in NWern parts.


Taylor1740
20 June 2025 17:56:54

Very isolated though Brian when weighing up the other models.

No other model has got anywhere near this. GFS is not having its finest hour just lately.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

I agree, I'm discounting the GFS runs in the extended range at the moment based on recent performance it seems to be way overdoing the heat.


NW Leeds - 150m amsl
Rob K
20 June 2025 18:08:10

I agree, I'm discounting the GFS runs in the extended range at the moment based on recent performance it seems to be way overdoing the heat.

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 

It has been a bit over the top with the actual temperature but the synoptic pattern has been pretty accurate.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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