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Jiries
Monday, June 2, 2025 8:34:39 PM

Excellent and long may it continue. As a fan of extreme weather I couldn’t care less if some areas need rain. Same as old

folk don’t want 3ft of snow in winter but others do

looks more unsettled for here for a week, but not massively so, and I’m cautiously optimistic for the summer. The drier, hotter and more humid the better 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I am looking for a heatwave to beat the 35.6c set in non-global warming year 1976.  We got good ingredients for high temps due to dryer ground so need to get the models to get a grip to allow the build of HP to the Uk fully nationwide instead of so boring N/S set-up and move east a bit to allow high temperatures in a good timely manners with full sunny days, no cloudy heat spikes thanks.  Last time geniune 30C plus here was Sept 2023 so very very well over due to get 30's for the Midlands areas.

DEW
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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 7:49:18 AM
GFS Op 00z; The current deep LP N of Scotland soon fills and for the next 10 days (to Fri 13th) the weather settles down into a pattern of shallow LP somewhere between Iceland and Norway with cool NW-lies blowing into Britain, just about reaching the South Coast; looking persistently showery for the N while the S misses out on much needed rainfall. Over the weekend of 14th/15th a broad area of HP covers Britain but the W/NW-ly pattern resumes from Mon 16th. For most of the next ten days there is a marked temp gradient from a cool S England to a hot Spain.

FAX; Backs up GFS but does add more of a disturbance in the W-ly flow for S England on Thu 5th

ECM; from Tue 10th places the area of LP mid-Atlantic rather than further north and so offers unsettled weather for the W Coast down to Cornwall while E districts esp E Anglia may become rather warm.

GEFS; staying cool to Tue 10th with good ens agreement, then somewhat warmer but with a big spread of forecasts before ens members come together again ca Mon 16th with mean a little above norm.  A little measurable rain in the S Thu 5th and Sat 7th otherwise bits and pieces in different runs; in Scotland and to some extent in E England small amounts of rain on most days after 7th perhaps something heavier Fri 13th. 


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NMA
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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 8:56:16 AM

Excellent and long may it continue. As a fan of extreme weather I couldn’t care less if some areas need rain. Same as old

folk don’t want 3ft of snow in winter but others do

looks more unsettled for here for a week, but not massively so, and I’m cautiously optimistic for the summer. The drier, hotter and more humid the better 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Too right Matty. If we all could think like that the world would be an incredible place unlike where we are today.


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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 1:17:04 PM

Too right Matty. If we all could think like that the world would be an incredible place unlike where we are today.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

The south of England is looking increasingly wet on the GFS models so your prayers could be answered. Latest GEFS ensemble shows a chance of regular rainfall across the whole 16 day period 


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Rob K
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 3:21:25 PM

Too right Matty. If we all could think like that the world would be an incredible place unlike where we are today.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Well, wishing for a certain type of weather has no bearing on what we actually get so where is the harm?

On the model front, GFS has a brief waft of rather warm air midmonth, and ECM has a warm-up somewhat earlier. I don't see any extended heatwave on the horizon but I think a brief "hot snap" is looking increasingly likely within the next couple of weeks.


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Jiries
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 4:29:07 PM

The south of England is looking increasingly wet on the GFS models so your prayers could be answered. Latest GEFS ensemble shows a chance of regular rainfall across the whole 16 day period 

Originally Posted by: GezM 

It been very unsettled since before the BH weekend so it already well outstayed it welcome, we don't need more rain and prolonged unsettled weather wasting our valuable long daylight hours.  Just within over 2 weeks for the longest day so will be a big waste if this unwelcome unsettled weather persists.

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 4:46:26 PM
Very unsettled? Not on the south coast, just a splash of rain today and that was it.
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Retron
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 4:50:27 PM

Very unsettled? Not on the south coast, just a splash of rain today and that was it.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

No rain here for a week - including today. The North Downs did a smashing job of wringing out the clouds, both from the warm front and the cold front which is now moving through.

The models show Thursday as being the next chance for rain, I'm not going to hold my breath based on today's performance. 


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fairweather
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 5:13:17 PM

The heavy rain forecast even yesterday for tomorrow (here) seems to have been put to one side by the BBC. Thursday still has heavy rain but I guess it's more likely that it will fall in tiny amounts by then. I'd like to be wrong of course. The recent winds combined with sunshine aid transpiration with no restoration here. Winds have been incessant here once the suns up. Apologies to all further north who have had enough rain for the time being.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Weather forecast was hopeless. Just a useless 0.9mm here and enough wind to dry things out further. As weather forecasting is supposed to be a scientific discipline I am surprised they don't understand that there having only been 6 days of rainfall over 2mm in three months that forecasting a minute rain to fall here would have been of some significance. But no, just rain forecast for all. I expected that - why didn't they? If we'd have had ten days of blizzards then to forecast no blizzard would have been of some use you would have thought - but no, that would count as a non-event and not news worthy.


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Brian Gaze
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 5:14:34 PM
Worth keeping an eye on developments during the second week of June I suspect. The tendency has been for the models to push back the transition, but it continues to appear.  

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 5:39:01 PM
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Rob K
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 5:57:49 PM

Very unsettled? Not on the south coast, just a splash of rain today and that was it.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Indeed, I went down to Dorset and it was far better than forecast, proper warm sunshine almost all weekend. Much better than forecast, even though the model charts looked rather ropey!

12Z GFS shows at least a week of warm and settled weather for just about all of us from mid month. A long way out though...


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Ally Pally Snowman
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 7:12:24 PM
The 12z ECM is good run starts settling things down day 6 and is hot by day 9, humid and thundery as well.
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Polar Low
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 8:34:55 PM
ECM 9 and 10 are high probability 30c charts for se wait it’s members but I don’t think it’s outlier

15 uppers in strong June sunshine we would se  rapid T2 rises

ECM extended (WX) Heat continues southern and se 

http://wxcharts.com/?panel=default&model=ecmwf,ecmwf,ecmwf,ecmwf®ion=europe&chart=850temp,850temp,wind10mkph,snowdepth&run=12&step=264&plottype=10&lat=51.500&lon=-0.250&skewtstep=0 

Devonian
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 9:42:19 PM

Weather forecast was hopeless. Just a useless 0.9mm here and enough wind to dry things out further. As weather forecasting is supposed to be a scientific discipline I am surprised they don't understand that there having only been 6 days of rainfall over 2mm in three months that forecasting a minute rain to fall here would have been of some significance. But no, just rain forecast for all. I expected that - why didn't they? If we'd have had ten days of blizzards then to forecast no blizzard would have been of some use you would have thought - but no, that would count as a non-event and not news worthy.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

The BBC's forecasts are poor but they don't use the Met O anymore. However, the Met O haven't done very well with forecasting rainfall amounts either ...

Matty H
Tuesday, June 3, 2025 10:00:42 PM

Too right Matty. If we all could think like that the world would be an incredible place unlike where we are today.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Couldn’t care less, in the same way as snow hunters don’t about the infirm and those that can’t heat their houses

Encouraging signs for heat lovers are a little more “likely” in the current output. Long way to go though 


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Rob K
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 7:25:20 AM
Not sure if this is more relevant here or in the media thread, but this weather presenter in Florida has gone on air to talk about how US government cuts are affecting model accuracy. (Mostly in the context of hurricane prediction, there.)

https://x.com/politics_pr/status/1930094865020232136?s=46&t=pi-PW2h-zayk3Ew8WL18KA 


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Wednesday, June 4, 2025 7:58:03 AM
GFS Op 00z; the westerly regime continues with troughs which affect the whole country but mostly the north passing through on Thu 5th and Sun 8th then LPs affecting only Scotland 985mb Faeroes Tue 10th. The situation then becomes less mobile; 980 mb off NW Ireland Thu 12th with S-lies for Britain gradually moving round the N of Scotland and into Sweden 1000mb Thu 19th with winds switching to the north, Between 12th and 19th HP noses into the south promising warm weather there. 

FAX confirms small disturbances crossing England Thu and Sat

ECM; similar to GFS though by Sat 14th the LP appears to be filling and retreating to Iceland rather than moving on to Sweden.

GEFS; temps on the cool side to Tue 10th, and on the warm side from Sat 14th. In between, an explosion of outcomes with ens members from 10C above to 5C below norm (less marked in N) before the bunch gradually pulls back together (more slowly in N). Rain for the south 5th and 8th (definite, but not much) perhaps a bit more around Thu 12th otherwise very little. In the north, small amounts of rain at any time, heaviest in the W and not much in the E.


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Ally Pally Snowman
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 10:38:22 AM
Finally a decent GFS, the 6z starts the heatwave next Wednesday. 
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Brian Gaze
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 10:52:01 AM
ECM ENS is now available for Glastonbury. The direct link is:

PS: I'm adding in some new ECM stuff hopefully later today.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/ecmhrens.aspx?chartname=ecmwfenspreciprate&chartlocation=glastonbury 

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Ally Pally Snowman
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 11:06:48 AM
Well the GFS 6z turned into the run of the year for Summer fans. Over a week of +30c temps 
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Rob K
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 12:12:52 PM
Flaming June incoming on the 6Z GFS with 30C arriving by the end of next week and sticking around for a whole week? Bring it on!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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fairweather
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 12:21:51 PM

The BBC's forecasts are poor but they don't use the Met O anymore. However, the Met O haven't done very well with forecasting rainfall amounts either ...

Originally Posted by: Devonian 

Indeed - I was looking at the Met Office web site video ones which are current.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 12:29:34 PM
What happened to showery weather? We haven't had that for years here. Summer or winter. The weather type comes in longer blocks now. So either long dry spells with perhaps the odd day of rain or long wet spells with the odd dry days. Never sunny one minute, pouring down the next throughout the day, or like this for a few days. Probably one minor thunderstorm every 2-3 years. I find this all surprising given the supposed extra energy in the systems. I can remember the days of going on and off the cricket pitch every 20 mins back in the day, particularly early in the season.
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Brian Gaze
Wednesday, June 4, 2025 12:30:20 PM

Flaming June incoming on the 6Z GFS with 30C arriving by the end of next week and sticking around for a whole week? Bring it on!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

One of the all time classics if correct! 


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