It’s been on the Sky News app for two days under the headline “mini heatwave on the way”

As for why the lack of interest from “heat hounds” whatever that is - it’s a couple of days before a return to crap. That’ll be why

I've had a feeling for a while that August could have some serious heat - maybe not long lasting but it's been bottled up for so long that it could be fierce. Even the brief waft at the end of this week looks like reaching 30C with ease, so a direct hit could be quite something.

I notice that even Sunday is now showing 25C in London on the UKV.

Perhaps the unexpected infill clouds today here and many southern posters complained about it on NW moan threads hence why lack of interest from us heat lovers and this warm spell might end up cloudy affairs so next please.  September is the one I am interested to see for full sunny days regardless the temperatures. 

Agreed - a bit like having a 2 day cold snap in Winter - pointless really and you are not going to get any enjoyment out of it knowing it's only lasting a day or 2.

How do you not get any enjoyment out of it? Enjoy what you have rather than focus on the next Big Wednesday.😆

I'll soon discover who's closer to the mark I guess 😁

You have made an old man very happy, WW! 🤣 I love a good thunderstorm that coincides with The Proms! We had an especially memorable one back in the early 70s in Cambridgeshire!!!!

They're the summer equivalent of coldies like me - always sniffing out the next hot spell, even if there's one right under their nose they'll still be going after one in the distance. "Hotties" doesn't have the same ring to it (cue Beast), and as they're always searching, chasing... hound it is!

Interesting to see how cool it is down there - I'm only half a mile away from a north-facing coast here, but it does bugger-all to keep things cooler these days!

Talking of which, the MetO raw now has 31C here on Friday, followed by a 19C minimum into Saturday. And Saturday... 29C now, instead of 30, but it'll be an incredibly sticky feel to things.

Funny thing is - an ice cream van came round yesterday evening, as a shower passed through. He got no customers. I suspect when one is really needed, i.e. Friday and Saturday, they'll be nowhere to be seen!

EDIT: Better late than never, the MetO have finally twigged it's going to get hot! They're using the term properly this time:

"Outlook for Friday to Sunday:

Settled weather with plenty of hazy sunshine over the coming days, staying dry aside from Saturday where there's a risk of showers, perhaps thundery. Warm or very warm, locally hot."

Ummm…… no

"Three fine days and a thunderstorm" - George II, 1730. It's traditional😊

I am patiently awaiting these three fine days. Presumably they are supposed to be consecutive? I can take or leave the thunderstorm. 

The 12z output looks far from inspiring at first glance.

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GFS Op - starts with a couple of troughs moving across Britain projected from LP near Iceland (this weekend, Thu 25th), then a short spell of settled weather around Tue 30th (1020mb covering Britain) before another Atlantic trough Fri 2nd. This last trough sits off NW Scotland and promises some warm and humid air brought up from the S to much of England.

ECM -similar to GFS, though the trough on the 25th  is a weaker affair.

GEM - similar to GFS but a different handle on the trough on the 25th - weaker as in GFS but persisting into the weekend.

GEFS - warm now (at least in the S), just on the cool side for the rest of month, then slowly warming. Very little rain in the S, more persistent and to some extent heavier towards the NW; many areas away from the SE showing a one-day peak Sun 21st.

The pop-up ad on the TWO chart viewer offering snow and ice removal tools this morning. An official TWO winter outlook?😮

It's blocking the normal progression of lows and stopping the summer PV from troughing south in that region (so it's instead troughing over NE Canada/Greenland)

Looking at a handful of previously good summers, high pressure in that area is mostly absent (with a dominance of the summer PV troughing there)

We need to look for 2025 toand hope not a same thing happening which can tell us from the models.

No Iberian HP persisting over Spain and Portugal that gave them very dry warm to hot end of winter as done in 2023.

SSW must not occur again.

If both not happened then we safely get a warmer Spring to settled warm to hotter drier summer with short unsettled spells.

If both does occur again then we know a bad year again ahead for 3rd year running.

WX temps offering a little more warmth for N Europe in week 1, with SE England up to the N Baltic areas which particularly benefit from this; Scotland and W Russia still cool. Then a step back in week 2 with the isotherms slipping back south and any real warmth staying S of the Alps. Rain patchy across N Europe in week 1 (Spain still dry) but moving to N Scandinavia in week 2, Britain becoming dry.

GFS Op - trough moving E-wards across all of Britain at the weekend, then a slight rise of pressure before another  trough (weaker, and  S England less affected) moves across Fri 26th. HP then establishes firmly for Britain 1025mb Mon 29th and pressure remains quite high to Sun 4th, though somewhat dented by LP moving to Scandinavia Fri 2nd with a spell of NW-lies.

ECM - similar to GFS though the HP Mon 29th is centred further N and SE England may be affected by continental LP.

GEM - The trough shown on GFS for the 26th sticks over Scotland and then backs off to the NW with fresh SW-lies for Britain as a whole  and HP centred no closer than E France

GEFS -  temps dropping to cool side of norm Sun 21st - 28th, then less agreement between ens members with mean near norm. Rather dry in the SE, a few runs provide splashes of rain there; in a band from SW to NE the splashes of rain are more frequent and in the NW happening all the time. 

Sorry about the earlier formatting - thought I had that under control!

But the GFS average still shows heights reluctant to build east from the Azores which means there is a definite risk of a continuation of the July weather we've seen so far. All in all though, the models appear to be showing more opportunities for some warm, dry weather. 

GFS 6z back to square one... 😖