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Ally Pally Snowman
Saturday, April 6, 2024 6:50:26 PM
Some crazy temps in Europe today, earliest ever 30c in Germany, 34c Spain, 34c France , 29c Austria,  28c Switzerland. 
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ozone_aurora
Saturday, April 6, 2024 6:53:32 PM
I wonder what the highest for UK today. I suspect that 21 C has not been reached.
lanky
Saturday, April 6, 2024 7:03:18 PM

I wonder what the highest for UK today. I suspect that 21 C has not been reached.

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 



Man on BBC weather said 21C in Suffolk this afternoon - but that might mean over 20.5 in rounded layman speak
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doctormog
Saturday, April 6, 2024 7:16:40 PM

Man on BBC weather said 21C in Suffolk this afternoon - but that might mean over 20.5 in rounded layman speak

Originally Posted by: lanky 



20.9°C in Santon Downham (in Suffolk).
tallyho_83
Saturday, April 6, 2024 8:34:51 PM

Some crazy temps in Europe today, earliest ever 30c in Germany, 34c Spain, 34c France , 29c Austria,  28c Switzerland. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Tomorrow(Sun) and Monday 12pm

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Another very unseasonably warm one for most/all of continental Europe.
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Jiries
Tuesday, April 9, 2024 11:20:10 AM
Proper lively storms taking place in Cyprus yesterday and today,  Yesterday Nicosia recorded 36.6mm of rain and now more storms and cold temperatures at 10.3C recorded 13.42pm from 19.4C at 10.06am in the morning.  Very interesting than this country so called stupid named poxy lame storms that doesnt deliver anything but just wind and rain and static temperatures.

 
polarwind
Wednesday, April 10, 2024 10:49:37 AM

 A month or two ago I mentioned that I considered the (then) present North Atlantic synoptics as being more like those of the 70's/80's as compared with the last three decades or so. My position hasn't changed.
Anyone have an opinion on this and what might be the likely outcome to our weather if the comparison is reasonable and becomes the norm?
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Jiries
Wednesday, April 10, 2024 4:54:39 PM
Nicosia, Cyprus had recorded whopping 44.6 of rain after getting 36.6 of rain a day before totalling this month to 81.2mm.  Today is recovery to settled weather now.  
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Tuesday, April 16, 2024 6:38:47 AM
And you thought Britain had some 'interesting' convection yesterday ...

Pakistan's most populated province Punjab has suffered the highest death toll so far, with 21 people killed by lightning between Friday and Sunday, AFP news agency reported.

Also lots of flash flooding there - again. 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68823490 
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Viking3
Tuesday, April 16, 2024 9:31:17 PM
Heavy thunderstorms during the past 24 hours in the UAE and Oman have brought widespread disruption and tragically some deaths. Dubai Airport reported 159mm in the 24 hours up to 1800 GMT today which is well above the average annual rainfall. 
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The Beast from the East
Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:29:16 AM

Heavy thunderstorms during the past 24 hours in the UAE and Oman have brought widespread disruption and tragically some deaths. Dubai Airport reported 159mm in the 24 hours up to 1800 GMT today which is well above the average annual rainfall. 

Originally Posted by: Viking3 




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Ulric
Wednesday, April 17, 2024 11:56:56 AM
The BBC are reporting the disruption due to rain in Dubai now....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68831408 
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Retron
Wednesday, April 17, 2024 12:26:37 PM

The BBC are reporting the disruption due to rain in Dubai now....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68831408 

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


I can't believe that they were trying to taxi those aeroplanes in the floods... that's a massive no-no, you'd have thought! And just look at all those massive SUVs caught up in the flooding... there are some things that plenty of money can't help with.

The rain chart for the next week shows it's going to remain soggy out there, with around a year's worth of rain over the next week.

http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec9.png 
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Wednesday, April 17, 2024 1:48:38 PM

The BBC are reporting the disruption due to rain in Dubai now....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68831408 

Originally Posted by: Ulric 



From the link:
The National Centre of Meteorology announced that 254.8mm (9.7in) had fallen on Khatm al-Shakla, in the emirate of al-Ain, over less than 24 hours. The country averages 140-200 mm of rainfall per year, while Dubai typically receives only 97mm. The monthly average for April is only about 8mm.
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Jiries
Wednesday, April 17, 2024 7:21:38 PM

From the link:
The National Centre of Meteorology announced that 254.8mm (9.7in) had fallen on Khatm al-Shakla, in the emirate of al-Ain, over less than 24 hours. The country averages 140-200 mm of rainfall per year, while Dubai typically receives only 97mm. The monthly average for April is only about 8mm.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Interesting read and very lively weather than this country rubbish climate and so-called name storms that only deiver wind and rain while over there no name storm give once in a life time severe storm.
Saint Snow
Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:23:05 PM

Heavy thunderstorms during the past 24 hours in the UAE and Oman have brought widespread disruption and tragically some deaths. Dubai Airport reported 159mm in the 24 hours up to 1800 GMT today which is well above the average annual rainfall. 

Originally Posted by: Viking3 



Pity it didn't wash the entire evil cesspit away

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Retron
Thursday, April 18, 2024 4:28:29 AM
Laughable - the Telegraph is blaming cloud-seeding for the deluge:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/17/dubai-airport-flooded-record-rainfall-one-dead/ 

The reason it's laughable is because the models were predicting heavy rain in the area - and, of course, the models won't know a thing about whether or not cloud-seeding has happened!
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Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:03:43 AM

Laughable - the Telegraph is blaming cloud-seeding for the deluge:

Originally Posted by: Retron 



This is one of those awkward topics which straddles two threads - see also 'Conspiracy Theories' in UIA
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Gandalf The White
Thursday, April 18, 2024 7:55:07 AM

This is one of those awkward topics which straddles two threads - see also 'Conspiracy Theories' in UIA

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Apparently, according to a report on the BBC Website, the UAE has used cloud seeding and there was a report that it was used on Sunday/Monday but not Tuesday when the torrential downpours occurred.


The technique has been around for decades, and the UAE has used it in recent years to help address water shortages.
In the hours that followed the floods, some social media users were quick to wrongly attribute the extreme weather solely to recent cloud seeding operations in the country.
Earlier reports by Bloomberg suggested cloud seeding planes were deployed on Sunday and Monday, but not on Tuesday, when the flooding occurred.

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Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:07:21 AM

Apparently, according to a report on the BBC Website, the UAE has used cloud seeding and there was a report that it was used on Sunday/Monday but not Tuesday when the torrential downpours occurred.


The technique has been around for decades, and the UAE has used it in recent years to help address water shortages.
In the hours that followed the floods, some social media users were quick to wrongly attribute the extreme weather solely to recent cloud seeding operations in the country.
Earlier reports by Bloomberg suggested cloud seeding planes were deployed on Sunday and Monday, but not on Tuesday, when the flooding occurred.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



I saw that, but obviously the timing is wrong, though not so wrong as to put conspiracy theorists off. The BBC link (in the Conspiracy Thread) however contains the statement (my bold)
BBC Weather meteorologist Matt Taylor also noted the severe weather event had already been forecast. "Ahead of the event, computer models (that don't factor in potential cloud seeding effects) were already predicting well over a year's worth of rain to fall in around 24 hours," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68839043 

That won't deter conspiracy theory either!

EDIT I suppose you could maintain that the prior seeding worsened the bad situation already predicted. I always understood that the silver iodide or whatever was being used for seeding had a temporary and local effect, being washed out by the rain generated - but does anyone know know for certain how long it remains aloft?
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Gandalf The White
Thursday, April 18, 2024 10:55:46 AM

I saw that, but obviously the timing is wrong, though not so wrong as to put conspiracy theorists off. The BBC link (in the Conspiracy Thread) however contains the statement (my bold)
BBC Weather meteorologist Matt Taylor also noted the severe weather event had already been forecast. "Ahead of the event, computer models (that don't factor in potential cloud seeding effects) were already predicting well over a year's worth of rain to fall in around 24 hours," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68839043 

That won't deter conspiracy theory either!

EDIT I suppose you could maintain that the prior seeding worsened the bad situation already predicted. I always understood that the silver iodide or whatever was being used for seeding had a temporary and local effect, being washed out by the rain generated - but does anyone know know for certain how long it remains aloft?

Originally Posted by: DEW 



What puzzled me was that if the forecast was showing torrential rain then why bother seeding at all?
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Monday, April 22, 2024 7:19:48 AM
Tens of thousands evacuated from massive China floods
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp0gd5ezj9lo 

A flood-prone province in S China, but apparently worse than usual. Reuters refer to the floods as 'unseasonal' while BBC radio was commenting on abnormally stormy weather with hail large enough to crack windscreens.
 
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Wednesday, April 24, 2024 7:52:27 AM
Orange Sahara dust haze descends over Athens

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68887377 
Spectacular photos assuming they've not been retouched.
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Jiries
Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:36:26 AM

Orange Sahara dust haze descends over Athens

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68887377 
Spectacular photos assuming they've not been retouched.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Interesting read and another interesting weather event after Dubai storms last week.   That true it look like Mars atmosphere but not sure how high the temperatures reached in Mars during the dust storm that often come with high temps.  HIghest there this year Sol was 9C max and 19C ground level, last year I think was 24C and 16C respectively before diving to minus figures soon after.
Roger Parsons
Friday, April 26, 2024 3:10:44 PM
A rare sighting of five funnel clouds forming over County Wicklow in the Republic of Ireland has been captured on camera.
They were spotted by wildlife photographer David De Courcy over Wicklow Harbour on Friday morning.

Rare sight of five funnel clouds captured on camera
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2rnx8271go 
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