Quantum
28 March 2021 10:03:31


Those sorts of uppers would produce some double digit maxima by day.


The record for April is -1.1C


This chart is beyond insane.


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
28 March 2021 10:05:40

And obviously this is never going to happen, that's not the point.


To even see this is extraordinary. Again I've hunted for cold ensembles for years and the coldest I've managed is about -21C and it goes without saying always in the depth of Winter.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
scillydave
28 March 2021 10:41:34
Quantum I'm glad you picked that chart up - it really is a sight to behold. I'd love to see what needs to fall into place for it to happen (it won't obviously).

I wonder what Richard up in Aberdeen would have to say if it came off?!!
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Hungry Tiger
28 March 2021 10:42:59

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


OH MY GOD.


Ensemble 12 on the 0Z


https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2021032800/gens-12-0-186.png


No words.



-20C almost down to East Anglia - what sort of maxs are looking at here.


 


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Retron
28 March 2021 10:49:19

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


-20C almost down to East Anglia - what sort of maxs are looking at here.



As mentioned in my post first thing this morning - still above zero, as by the time the cold air moves south and it's daytime it'd warmed out.


It did manage to bring -8C by night here though!


 


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
28 March 2021 10:54:39

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


As mentioned in my post first thing this morning - still above zero, as by the time the cold air moves south and it's daytime it'd warmed out.


It did manage to bring -8C by night here though!


 



I doubt it, anything below -14C at the T850 level will guarantee staying below freezing.


At -20C we are looking at -5C type maxima April or not.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Retron
28 March 2021 11:27:36

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I doubt it, anything below -14C at the T850 level will guarantee staying below freezing



Nope. Again, look at the post I made earlier today about that same run. Here, I'll link it for you:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1329666#post1329666


 


 


Leysdown, north Kent
tallyho_83
28 March 2021 11:39:56
Just checking the GFS charts - Northerly looks like it wont materilise. - Same old story and at least this failure is occurring in Spring for a change.
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Bertwhistle
28 March 2021 12:10:54

Extremely high *(record) MSL pressure projected over Greenland: up to 1100mb at 9GMT next Sunday!


Record MSLP is from Siberia at just 1083.8mb.


Chart image


 


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Matty H
28 March 2021 12:21:40

Yes, very encouraging output this morning again  lovely to look at my iPhone calendar this morning and it says ‘British Summer Time Begins” 😃


 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Looks less and less likely that the cold plunge gets here, thank heavens. Warm air hanging on longer next week turning the first cool down into a toppling high pressure, then low pressure getting involved once the second big northerly flow sets up (as depressions are wont to do, with the instability) and deflecting the cold air westwards.


Thats the ECM, but GFS does much the same by the look of things.



doctormog
28 March 2021 12:24:35

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Just checking the GFS charts - Northerly looks like it wont materilise. - Same old story and at least this failure is occurring in Spring for a change.


Sadly that is not true.


The extreme option are unlikely (hopefully) but the northerly flow looks like a high probability based on current GFS, ECM and GEM output


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSAVGEU06_234_1.png 


 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMAVGEU00_216_1.png 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GEMOPEU00_228_1.png 


 


 


Quantum
28 March 2021 13:01:39

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Extremely high *(record) MSL pressure projected over Greenland: up to 1100mb at 9GMT next Sunday!


Record MSLP is from Siberia at just 1083.8mb.


 


 



Nothing compared to the 1107mb we had in the charts yesterday!


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Hungry Tiger
28 March 2021 13:40:18

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Extremely high *(record) MSL pressure projected over Greenland: up to 1100mb at 9GMT next Sunday!


Record MSLP is from Siberia at just 1083.8mb.


Chart image


 



Jesus Mary and Joseph. Thought I had eaten something I shouldn't for lunch. I have never seen charts like that before.



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Quantum
28 March 2021 13:42:28

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


Jesus Mary and Joseph. Thought I had eaten something I shouldn't for lunch. I have never seen charts like that before.




Still nothing compared to Yesterday's which I have saved along with the P12 0Zs from todays.


Think the GFS may be overdoing it but with the ECM showing close to 1070hpa as we get closer to this event I think the high pressure watch thread may need to return...


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Hungry Tiger
28 March 2021 13:42:30

Some exceptionally  low daytime temperatures should be showing for next week. So far they're not.


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doctormog
28 March 2021 14:40:51

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Some exceptionally  low daytime temperatures should be showing for next week. So far they're not.



High single/low double figures would be about right for the second half of the coming week based on the synoptics. Beyond that a bit cooler, before than a lot warmer for many.


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28 March 2021 15:57:31
There's nothing particularly unusual or severe, we start lambing about 1st April and rarely a year goes by without at least a day or two of wintery showers if not full on blizzard for several hours before they are done about 20th.
Devonian
28 March 2021 16:24:01

 


The young (even the relatively young) and excitable here wont remember Aprils of the past. I remember several which delivered heavy snow and hard frost, notably the amazing blizzard of late April 1981. More recently April has been a good deal more benign.


It's far too early to call a record cold northerly based on t144+.


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Tim A
28 March 2021 16:28:55
GFS 12z is a direct hit, no west based cold.

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Brian Gaze
28 March 2021 16:30:21

Insane GFS12z. Obviously will be an outlier.



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