OK neither GFS gets there.
GFS has it collapsing and sending the cold to E europe
GFSP has a spoiler greenland high that gives us a milder northerly.
But in terms of the bigger picture, both are upgrades on the 0Z set. Both have weaker Canadian cold pools and further west, both have stronger and better positioned siberian highs.
So we could still get there provided the upgrades continue.
And we are all aware stunning charts can suddenly pop up in the 180-192 hour range.
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