Brian Gaze
29 December 2020 13:55:56

Sounds like the Met Office is playing off the winter tees. 


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Gandalf The White
29 December 2020 14:04:53

Originally Posted by: four 

But children today don't know what snow is, so ascribing any measure of severity will bewilder them totally


You sound like you've come to realise the implications of climate change.


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
29 December 2020 14:37:23

Met office suggesting the East might have it's turn soon. Here's hoping!


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Tom Oxon
29 December 2020 15:38:16

Tomorrow's occlusion looks to basically completely miss anywhere apart from Cornwall and Devon according to latest Beeb forecasts. Quite the downgrade from tracking the south Midlands a few days back. The Warwickshire snow-shield stands firm.


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Gooner
29 December 2020 16:46:23

Originally Posted by: Tom Oxon 


Tomorrow's occlusion looks to basically completely miss anywhere apart from Cornwall and Devon according to latest Beeb forecasts. Quite the downgrade from tracking the south Midlands a few days back. The Warwickshire snow-shield stands firm.



Disappointed to get in ( playing catch up ) and find snow is missing MBY 


Good Met update though 


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Crepuscular Ray
29 December 2020 20:57:27
Disappointing look ahead by Stav tonight on the BBC. For the next week after a cold blip tomorrow N and E Scotland had day temperatures of 6 or 7 C displayed and even further south 4-6 C??? Yet very cold was mentioned frequently??
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doctormog
29 December 2020 20:59:26

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Disappointing look ahead by Stav tonight on the BBC. For the next week after a cold blip tomorrow N and E Scotland had day temperatures of 6 or 7 C displayed and even further south 4-6 C??? Yet very cold was mentioned frequently??


Yes, the BBC forecasts have highs of between 5 and 7°C here over the next week here. It may be nudged down a bit but I would expect quite a bit more cold rain in the coming days. If they had inland temperatures shown on the maps it would look colder.


Retron
30 December 2020 05:20:00

This has to be one of the most uncertain same day forecasts I've ever seen!

From the Met Office text forecast for the SE:
"Cloud probably increasing by afternoon with rain and snow possibly affecting some areas with some accumulations but confidence is low. Maximum temperature 5 °C."


(What do you call "accumulations" of rain, anyway... a puddle?)


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johncs2016
30 December 2020 06:54:53

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Disappointing look ahead by Stav tonight on the BBC. For the next week after a cold blip tomorrow N and E Scotland had day temperatures of 6 or 7 C displayed and even further south 4-6 C??? Yet very cold was mentioned frequently??


That's just typical of the "English" Broadcasting Corporation, just like all of the other English biased mainstream media.


The weather up here could be completely different from what it is like down south and yet, the English biased media will tend to report the weather in their own neck of the woods as though it is was like that throughout the whole of the UK, completely ignoring the fact that our weather might well be completely different.


Even Gavin P. has been guilty of doing that in a number of his videos (no surprise there since he lives in Northampton-shire, down in England and perhaps we need a separate Scottish "GavsWeatherVids" YouTube channel in response to that which is set up and run by someone here in Scotland).


Personally, I wouldn't go by what the BBC/Meteogroup tell us although it wouldn't surprise me one single bit if the outcome which you have just mentioned, was how it actually turned out.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Surrey John
30 December 2020 08:50:58
Looks like the Met office is not in any haste to update its weather warnings pages

Last update was over 22 hours ago, and no warnings after 6am tomorrow in South, or 2pm tomorrow anywhere in country. Suggests to anyone looking that snow and ice not a problem after 2pm tomorrow

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2020-12-31&id=2132f3e3-d96c-470c-93cc-44edfbf2b95a 


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tallyho_83
30 December 2020 09:23:25

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Saturday 2 Jan - Monday 11 Jan


Mixed conditions are likely during the beginning of this period. It will be dry at times, more so in the west, with intervals of rain, sleet and snow more likely affecting northern and eastern coastal areas. Significant accumulations of snow are likely to be over higher ground, but there is also a chance of snow falling down to lower-level areas inland. There is a possibility of drier and more settled conditions developing during this period, primarily across northern parts of the UK, and across areas in the west near the end of the period. At times it will be windy, particularly in western parts at first. Temperatures are likely to be low, feeling cold or even very cold, bringing a risk of frost, ice, and freezing fog


Monday 11 Jan - Monday 25 Jan


Cold or rather cold conditions are generally likely to continue during this period, with a risk of wintry hazards. At times conditions will generally be settled for parts of the north, and possibly extending to western areas too. There are currently no indications of exceptionally cold conditions occurring anywhere; however, some harsh frosts are likely over areas with snow cover. As we approach the end of January, it is likely that colder-than-average conditions will generally persist through the country. However, it is possible for some areas to see milder wetter and windier spells, but less frequently than usual.


 


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/



From a contrasting perspective - where did the 'feeling cold or very cold' go in their forecast today? Seemed to have been edited out? anyone notice?


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doctormog
30 December 2020 09:25:34
They have changed the wording but the clear and obvious emphasis is apparent throughout. The forecast even starts with “ Likely remaining cold throughout this period...”!
tallyho_83
30 December 2020 09:55:17
Just saw latest forecast from Matt Taylor - that band of rain/sleet and snow has not only taken a southerly track to Devon but may take an even more southerly track and merely reach east Devon let alone somerset and Dorset - looks like Dartmoor southwards/sotuh Devon would be best for the white stuff now.. :/
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Retron
30 December 2020 11:12:24

Good to see we reached minus double digits last night. A good chance of beating that in the coming days too!


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30 December 2020 12:29:12
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Gavin D
30 December 2020 14:22:51

Monday 4 Jan - Wednesday 13 Jan


Likely remaining cold throughout this period with the risk of wintry hazards. It will be dry at times, with the driest and clearest conditions likely in the west and northwest, and showers likely further east. These showers often wintry with hill snow but with a chance of snow falling to lower-levels at times. There is potential for spells of more organised precipitation, accompanied by stronger winds to move north from the continent into southern and central areas. Additionally, there is also the potential for precipitation to move into northern areas if high pressure declines. Both scenarios could bring an associated snow risk particularly over hills. Temperatures are likely to be below average bringing the risk of frost and freezing fog along with very cold overnight temperatures over any snow cover.


Wednesday 13 Jan - Wednesday 27 Jan


Cold or rather cold conditions are likely to continue into this period, with associated wintry hazards. At times conditions will generally be drier and more settled in the north and possibly extending into western areas. Exceptionally cold conditions are not expected however some severe overnight frosts are likely over any snow cover. Through the second half of the month the chance of colder than average conditions remain most likely, although occasional milder spells are possible. There is potential for unsettled conditions to develop across the south bringing above average precipitation, although the risk of wintry hazards would persist nationwide.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/


 

lanky
30 December 2020 14:23:07

Has anyone else noticed the "new normal" on the BBC TV weather forecasts of describing temperatures of around 4C as "Very Cold"


I am old enough to remember when this would have been "A little below average" or perhaps "rather cold"


 


For the winter months my grouping would be for maxes


over 13 exceptionally mild


11-13 very mild


9-11 mild


7-9 rather mild


5-7 around average


3-5 rather cold


1-3  cold


-2 to 1 very cold


under -2 exceptionally cold


 


 


 


 


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30 December 2020 18:09:15
Latest BBC forecast suggests less cold as we move into this weekend with temps widely 5C and 6C.
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Gavin D
30 December 2020 18:42:05

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Cold spell continuing into January. Snow for some.


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Wednesday 30 December – Sunday 3 January


Remaining cold. Snow showers and frost.


A few of us have already seen some snowfall this week. There is more on the way for many during the rest of the week. A combination of a large high pressure ridge over the north Atlantic and low pressure areas over the North Sea is leading to cold northerly winds over the UK. On Wednesday, a small low pressure area will track eastwards across south-west England and the English Channel. This threatens to bring some sleet and snow to some southern counties of the UK on Wednesday afternoon, evening and overnight.

But recent computer model runs have been trending further and further south with its track and making it a weaker feature. So, we may end up with just some localised snowfall over the hills of southern England. Further north, cold and frosty early and late in the day, with a risk of freezing fog patches on Wednesday night. Ice on untreated surfaces. Sleet, hail and snow showers will continue in coastal counties. Throughout the day on Thursday, sleet and snow showers will become more widespread and organised, pushing southwards from Scotland over central parts of the UK.

Further snow accumulations and ice over the higher ground. The end of this week will remain cold with widespread frost at night. The days will be cold too, with winds swinging into the north-east. A sleet or snow shower is possible almost anywhere, but most likely over the northern and eastern half of the UK. Further local snow accumulations.


Monday 4 January – Sunday 10 January


The cold pattern continuing. Risk of snow showers.


Remaining colder than average, as the UK remains on the cold side of high pressure over the far north Atlantic, Iceland and Greenland. Last winter, we failed to see an Arctic high pressure blocking pattern develop like this, and we ended up with mild and very wet, westerly winter. The middle part of this current winter is certainly proving to be different. The succession of Atlantic low pressure areas and fronts that normally bring the UK frequent south-westerly winds, cloud and rain will be diverted to southern Europe, and then down into northern Scandinavia. This means that western areas of the UK, in particular, will see less rainfall than normal, with a reduced threat of gales and flooding.

Indeed, after the very wet mid-December period, the river levels will get a chance to return closer to normal. It will still be cold enough for showers to fall as sleet and snow, leading to additional accumulations in places. Frost, ice and freezing fog are all potential hazards. There is chance that a new blast of cold air from the Arctic will sweep south in the second half of the week. But at the moment it doesn't look anywhere near as intense as the 'Beast from the East' cold spell in early March 2018! That will take some beating.


Monday 11 January – Sunday 24 January


A gradual transition to wetter and not as cold.


The week beginning Monday 11th January is expected to remain colder than average, particularly during the first half of this week and across the northern half of the UK. With persistent high pressure over Greenland and Iceland, this will serve to continue to divert the north Atlantic low pressure track into Spain and France. It will also encourage cold air flows from the Arctic to push into the UK from the north. But compared with the previous week, the low pressure areas out over the north Atlantic will start to become more vigorous and nudge closer to the south-west of the UK.

This could lead to a period of quite severe winter weather for a short time, as approaching fronts and heavy rain move into the colder air over the UK. Strong easterly winds and heavy snow would be likely, especially over central and northern areas where the cold air is most entrenched. It's far too early to be any more specific, but even at these early stages we can see some potential for such impactful UK weather in the large scale northern hemisphere weather patterns. Heading through mid-January and beyond, the low pressure areas and milder air from the south-west seem most likely to win out, with low pressure becoming a significant feature overhead the UK.

Milder air from the south-west will be more common again, especially over southern England and Wales. A return to the pre-Christmas weather pattern is indicated by the latest models, with plenty of wet weather over England and Wales, strong winds in the south at times. River levels should have reduced since the flooding around Christmas, but if rainfall becomes prolonged then we should be mindful of this hazard. Scotland may find it harder to shake off the cold air, with occasional frost and snow most likely here, when low pressure areas clear eastwards from the UK into Scandinavia.


Further ahead


There is plenty of uncertainty on the detail for mid-late January, as the weather influences on the UK pattern start to conflict. Our update will offer the latest thoughts on whether the cold spell could last throughout the month or not.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook


 

fairweather
30 December 2020 18:45:44

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Disappointing look ahead by Stav tonight on the BBC. For the next week after a cold blip tomorrow N and E Scotland had day temperatures of 6 or 7 C displayed and even further south 4-6 C??? Yet very cold was mentioned frequently??


Yes, saw that. The BBC forecast up till and including the weekend a tad disappointing down here though to be expected from the model output. Good for Scotland with some heavy snow forecast, some lighter snow in the north, but just 4-7C and drizzle for East Anglia and the South. Barely a frost tonight either.


This was a bit at odds with ITV which seemed to show temps of 3-4C but a mainly dry and cold outlook.


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