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ballamar
Thursday, October 1, 2020 1:56:30 PM
Thinking cold be more lightning than most of the summer in the SE could be a few embedded features and also after the main rain band. Could be some intense rain amounts. Not boring at least
Phil G
Thursday, October 1, 2020 2:03:50 PM

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18762347.storm-alex-heavy-rain-set-batter-dorset-weekend/

STORM Alex is set to bring what could be “one of the worst weekends of weather of all time in Dorset”.

Bournemouth-based weather enthusiast Dorset Snow has warned of “absolutely relentless” rain between Friday morning and Sunday afternoon.

If that comes off hats off to 'Dorset Snow' otherwise he'll have to eat his words or some of them. A brave call to stake your reputation on.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

It is a brave call but with the possibility of 4-5 inches of rainfall mentioned on the 1.30 bulletin, somewhere will cop out. Depends how the rainbands pivot. Some areas it could just rain all the time and Dorset appears to be in the firing line.
I would have caveated “could be one...”. Just like the forecasts use the words could, might, likely, just to cover themselves.

Saint Snow
Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:12:50 PM

I hope it pivots further east; as it stands, the system is going to spin the rain band northwards over MBY on Sat/Sun and I'd much rather it didn't.


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briggsy6
Thursday, October 1, 2020 6:16:00 PM

Just watched the BBC local forecast for the South East and it would appear there's a lot of green rain on the way. I'm off to contact Prof. Randy Cerveny to find out the mechanism which causes this rare meteorological phenomena.


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Rich mt
Thursday, October 1, 2020 8:44:35 PM

Met Office has backed away from the more intense circulation hitting the South Coast, but still windy and a lot of rain. North Western France looks like it will still see some very strong winds though.


Poole, Dorset
Thursday, October 1, 2020 9:13:39 PM

ARPEGE has wettest weather across Central Southern England from Hampshire and Dorset and NNW towards Bristol. Totals approaching or exceeding 100mm in a few spots. Somewhat different to the Met Office view.

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/arpege/runs/2020100112/arpege-25-114-1.png?01-17

ICON is similar although the highest totals stay near the south coast and around the Isle of Wight

http://modeles12.meteociel.fr/modeles/icon/runs/2020100112/iconeu-25-114-1.png?01-17

WRF is closer to the Met Office solution in terms of positioning but with totals over 200mm across the high ground in the south west.

http://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2020100112/nmm-25-96-1.png?01-16

GFS also going for the wettest weather in the SW

http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2020100112/114-777UK.GIF?01-12

Let's see which of the models turns out to be closest to what actually happens. Either way somewhere is going to see some significant flooding this weekend I think.

ozone_aurora
Thursday, October 1, 2020 10:12:59 PM

Storm winding up in the Bay of Biscay, showing the hook shape.

https://twitter.com/PeterGWeather/status/1311738721193033731.

(Not sure how to post Twitter feeds on TWO)

Zubzero
Thursday, October 1, 2020 10:41:02 PM

Met Office has backed away from the more intense circulation hitting the South Coast, but still windy and a lot of rain. North Western France looks like it will still see some very strong winds though.

Originally Posted by: Rich mt 

 

The radar returns over NW France are a classic,

DEW
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Friday, October 2, 2020 5:55:59 AM

 

The radar returns over NW France are a classic,

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

Those from the Channel are definitely a thing of beauty this morning - though perhaps best viewed in the abstract


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NMA
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Friday, October 2, 2020 7:10:27 AM

Those from the Channel are definitely a thing of beauty this morning - though perhaps best viewed in the abstract

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Quite agree. I woke up in the middle of the night and looked out of the window but was still almost calm. A strong ENE wind now.

I see from AIS that most of the ocean liners in Weymouth bay are in the Channel maybe to avoid the risk of ending up on the beach if the winds were too much for the anchor chains. That would be a notable story if it were to happen.


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picturesareme
Friday, October 2, 2020 7:15:20 AM

20mm and counting since midnight 

warrenb
Friday, October 2, 2020 7:46:29 AM
Wet and breezy here, nothing special.
Phil G
Friday, October 2, 2020 7:59:52 AM

 

Quite agree. I woke up in the middle of the night and looked out of the window but was still almost calm. A strong ENE wind now.

I see from AIS that most of the ocean liners in Weymouth bay are in the Channel maybe to avoid the risk of ending up on the beach if the winds were too much for the anchor chains. That would be a notable story if it were to happen.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

Good point. I don’t think these winds are predicted to be as strong as the last named storm, but it’s a different issue this time with the winds from the East or South East. Before the last storm most of the cruise ships took off to ride the storm out at sea, probably for the reason you mentioned.

Just checked vesselfinder.com while typing this and a number of ships have moved away.

DEW
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Friday, October 2, 2020 8:46:50 AM

I'm not impressed by Alex as a named storm - yes, definitely wet and windy but no more than an Atlantic depression typically delivers around the equinox.


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Friday, October 2, 2020 8:51:08 AM

I'm not impressed by Alex as a named storm - yes, definitely wet and windy but no more than an Atlantic depression typically delivers around the equinox.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

But this is a French named storm. It certainly was a storm in north western France. 


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Phil G
Friday, October 2, 2020 8:53:51 AM

I'm not impressed by Alex as a named storm - yes, definitely wet and windy but no more than an Atlantic depression typically delivers around the equinox.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Yes, think for us, at the moment we have been through a lot worse, but early days and the growing rainfall totals could be a big issue. Believe it was the French who named it as it was due to have more impact there.

Rob K
Friday, October 2, 2020 9:15:57 AM
Some pretty intense rainfall in a thin band across southern Hampshire at the moment. Up at this end of the county it is just steady light to moderate stuff so far.
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NMA
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Friday, October 2, 2020 9:27:02 AM

The winds have moderated significantly here but a decent surf running into Weymouth Bay.

Some notable flooding of roads around Dorchester bypass which you might think the Council/Highways Agency would address after countless events in recent years but must be a money thing. Back in the office the suns out, well glimpses of the sun. So all in all a storm that may not warrant a name this side of the Channel IMO. But have to see what developments occur over the weekend re rainfall totals.

Looks impressive on rain radar though. 7/10 so far but subject to revision.


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Phil G
Friday, October 2, 2020 9:55:19 AM
Appears from the latest GFS charts coming out now that energy left from ‘Alex’ will combine into another area of low pressure which will cause pressure over this country to deepen on Sunday to 980 from 990.

This is a marathon, not a sprint.

Currently, around here the ground seems to be taking the water quite well as it’s persistent, but not too heavy.

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Friday, October 2, 2020 10:09:34 AM

It's a bit wet here, with 11mm so far today being more than we've been used to for the last six months, but not much wind at all.


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Russwirral
Friday, October 2, 2020 10:59:44 AM
Areas of the west Country and Bath look to get a soaking over the next couple of hours as that rain band pivots.

a very fine line through the Southampton area looked very wet earlier


picturesareme
Friday, October 2, 2020 11:40:12 AM

Some pretty intense rainfall in a thin band across southern Hampshire at the moment. Up at this end of the county it is just steady light to moderate stuff so far.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

it certainly was intense here dumping close to half inch in under 1hr. 

ARTzeman
Friday, October 2, 2020 12:06:58 PM

Amber Warning for 12:00 Saturday to 06:00 Sunday for very heavy rain.




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Phil G
Friday, October 2, 2020 3:49:43 PM
On the radar, seems to be another band coming in affecting SE areas, then spreading along the M4 corridor.
Saint Snow
Friday, October 2, 2020 3:58:48 PM

The BBC trying to big this up, when it's just a common or garden autumn storm. Had to chuckle at this. The caption underneath reads, "Members of the Coastguard were on hand as the waves knocked a bin over"  

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54383792

 

 


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