Jason H
18 July 2020 17:27:10

Glorious day in South East London again. Wall to wall sunshine. Feeling hot in the July sunshine. 26 degrees recorded mid afternoon, following another sunny, hot day on Friday. Tomorrow looks ropey, but the the following week is looking good again. Early to mid 20's, more cloud about though.


No beach visit today, but a stroll along the Thames was most refreshing...


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JACKO4EVER
18 July 2020 18:06:48
More putrid crap just about sums it up
Bolty
18 July 2020 20:02:13

This is definitely the worst summer since 2012 around here now. Hopefully a decent August and September can redeem it somewhat, though I'm not confident.


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severnside
18 July 2020 20:16:20

I agree Bolty,  Definitely around here the poorest since 2012 for sure, managed to stay dry but very gloomy till about 5 in the afternoon,then spotted on and off, just manged a measly 19c , pathetic.  I very much doubt this month will even reach 25c , which 2012 here had a good last week peaking at 29c. See what August brings ......................

Saint Snow
18 July 2020 22:10:56

Originally Posted by: Jason H 


Glorious day in South East London again. Wall to wall sunshine. Feeling hot in the July sunshine. 26 degrees recorded mid afternoon, following another sunny, hot day on Friday. Tomorrow looks ropey, but the the following week is looking good again. Early to mid 20's, more cloud about though.


No beach visit today, but a stroll along the Thames was most refreshing...



 




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Jason H
19 July 2020 08:49:48

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 





It's OK. We've now joined you Northeners in the drizzle fest. Made my 4 mile run nice and cool this morning though. Hopefully it'll brighten up as the day goes along. Should be sunny and early 20's by mid afternoon.


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Essan
19 July 2020 08:56:44

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Meanwhile, the SE gets a lovely day today, the rain overnight, and a dry/sunny tomorrow.


Beyond a joke. 




Not just the SE.  A truly gorgeous, perfect summer's day here in south Worcestershire today, after some useful overnight rain 

This summer just keeps on giving!


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Retron
19 July 2020 09:35:31

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Meanwhile, the SE gets a lovely day today, the rain overnight, and a dry/sunny tomorrow.


Beyond a joke. 



Wish we had - it fizzled out before it got here, as is so often the case. I've got a couple of large cracks in the garden now from the lack of rain recently...


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DEW
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19 July 2020 09:53:26

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


3 days ago, the forecast for here today was cloudy morning, brightening up through the afternoon. 


2 days ago: some drizzle overnight, cloudy until early afternoon, lighter cloud and maybe a few sunny spells later. 


Yesterday: light rain overnight through the morning, drying up early afternoon


Today: rain all day


 


Meanwhile, the SE gets a lovely day today, the rain overnight, and a dry/sunny tomorrow.


Beyond a joke. 



No need to be jealous - the SE gets its forecasts downgraded too. Today was supposed to be fine and sunny but you northerners held on to the cold front and only released it this morning - not that it deserves the title of a 'front'. it's turned out to be a broad band of cloud and light drizzle, no useful rain and no sunshine either.


But I have to admit that Friday and Saturday were very pleasant.


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Retron
19 July 2020 10:22:20

Originally Posted by: DEW 


. it's turned out to be a broad band of cloud and light drizzle, no useful rain and no sunshine either.



That moan above may have done the trick - the radar shows that band of drizzle edging closer and this time it's not fizzling out. Oh, the excitelemt - will it manage to wet the ground here, saving me from having to water the plants later? Soon find out!


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19 July 2020 12:31:56

Originally Posted by: DEW 


No need to be jealous - the SE gets its forecasts downgraded too. Today was supposed to be fine and sunny but you northerners held on to the cold front and only released it this morning - not that it deserves the title of a 'front'. it's turned out to be a broad band of cloud and light drizzle, no useful rain and no sunshine either.


But I have to admit that Friday and Saturday were very pleasant.



Yes it's wet the ground here too but not under the shrubs or plants that would like a good drink. If foliage irrigation is what they like fine but the hose will be out again later. The dry summer continues and not even a traditional summer thunderstorm so far. 


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Whether Idle
19 July 2020 14:51:40

 A morning of warm sunny intervals has given way to some quite heavy rain - just what the lawn and plants and pool needed.  Really lucked out with this cold front, after a spell of very dry and sunny weather as last week progressed.


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Essan
19 July 2020 15:02:36

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Wish we had - it fizzled out before it got here, as is so often the case. I've got a couple of large cracks in the garden now from the lack of rain recently...




Even after the rain parts of my garden looks like it's been hit by an earthquake!


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Crepuscular Ray
19 July 2020 16:05:55
Despite being nearer to the Low Pressure and therefore quite breezy at times the last couple of weeks in Edinburgh haven't been too bad. Sunny spells most days, only light showers and 17-19 C. All pretty normal stuff
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johncs2016
20 July 2020 02:45:20

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Despite being nearer to the Low Pressure and therefore quite breezy at times the last couple of weeks in Edinburgh haven't been too bad. Sunny spells most days, only light showers and 17-19 C. All pretty normal stuff


More like bloomin' BORING if you ask me. In fact it has now become so repetitively boring here now, that I don't even bother to look outside to see what it is actually like any more because I already know what it will be like.


I know that it's not likely to be raining (if it is, that isn't going to be for long with any daily totals never amounting to more than 0.6 mm if anything at all).


I also know that it is likely to be cloudy and although the Sun might be shining, that is never going to be for long (hence the reason why we still haven't had a single day during this month with 8 or more hours of sunshine being recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank).


This is what it is like every single day now, without even a single bit of respite from that at any time, and the truth of the matter is that we just don't get actual weather here any more (at least, weather which is actually interesting).


Ideally, what I would to see at this time of year is a bit more in the way of sunshine as my ideals like a lot of people, would have been for a decent summer (which this has certainly not been, in that particular department at least).


Failing that though, I will even take a bit more in the way of rainfall, just  as long as it is something to make our weather a bit more interesting, and get us out of this never-ending and suicide-inducing hell-hole of a summer borefest which we continue to be stuck in.


Surely, that can't be too much to ask given given what we would expect our typical climate to be like. In my book, this is NOT typical Scottish weather because our typical Scottish weather never used to anywhere near as boring and uninteresting as what it has now become in this part of the world.


 


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20 July 2020 04:33:44

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 A morning of warm sunny intervals has given way to some quite heavy rain - just what the lawn and plants and pool needed.  Really lucked out with this cold front, after a spell of very dry and sunny weather as last week progressed.



The cold front brought nothing more here than a few hours of irritating fine drizzle that did no more than wet the leaves on the plants and dampen the pavements.  The west Kent mini-climate continues to show its apparent tendency to be dryer than east Kent.


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20 July 2020 08:13:54
Ahh the classic cool NW’ly in summer pattern today. It was clear all night and at sunrise. Now cloudy with a very light shower passing through already. Clouds will likely melt away towards sunset!

Some of the worst summers this decade had this pattern featuring frequently. Even in the sun yesterday it felt very fresh and autumnal in the NW,ly breeze.
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Jason H
20 July 2020 21:40:06

Originally Posted by: AJ* 


 


The cold front brought nothing more here than a few hours of irritating fine drizzle that did no more than wet the leaves on the plants and dampen the pavements.  The west Kent mini-climate continues to show its apparent tendency to be dryer than east Kent.



Agreed. Heavy drizzle for 15 minutes, but cloudy most of the day yesterday. Pretty chilly on my 4.5 mile run first thing this morning, but a glorious summers day followed, reaching 23 degress mid afternoon with low humidity. Perfect. Scattered clouds and a gentle warm breeze as the day wore on. Dinner in the garden this evening followed by a walk around the local park in t-shirts and shorts. The rest of the week looks to be in a similar vein for us denizens in the extreme South East.


I know that the NW/SE split is often discussed here, but this year, it seems to be an extreme South East split.


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johncs2016
20 July 2020 23:24:44

Originally Posted by: Jason H 


 


Agreed. Heavy drizzle for 15 minutes, but cloudy most of the day yesterday. Pretty chilly on my 4.5 mile run first thing this morning, but a glorious summers day followed, reaching 23 degress mid afternoon with low humidity. Perfect. Scattered clouds and a gentle warm breeze as the day wore on. Dinner in the garden this evening followed by a walk around the local park in t-shirts and shorts. The rest of the week looks to be in a similar vein for us denizens in the extreme South East.


I know that the NW/SE split is often discussed here, but this year, it seems to be an extreme South East split.



I would say that it's actually more complicated than that. It will be interesting to see whether or not the actual data backs me up on this one, but I would say that the UK has been split as follows over recent months:



  1. The very dry extreme SE of England due to even southerly tracking lows passing to the north of there, as a result of them covering only a very small area.

  2. A wetter middle section covering most of the rest of England and Wales (sometimes extending into the Scottish Borders and extreme SW of Scotland), which is most heavily impacted by those southerly tracking lows which pass to our south and miss us altogether.

  3. The very wet west of Scotland which is heavily impacted by orographic rainfall within any warm sector, and by stalling weather fronts which never quite reach us here in the east.

  4. That then leaves us with a second dry area here in the east of Scotland due to those southerly tracking lows missing us altogether, and that rain in the west of Scotland never quite reaching us here in the east.


Out of those two drier areas, I would say that the extreme SE of England is probably the drier of those areas as some rain does occasionally reach us here in the east when we are in a more westerly regime. However, I wouldn't say that there was that much in it between those two drier areas.


As far as here in Edinburgh is concerned, that is shown by the fact that we have now gone for 11 days without any significant rainfall. The fact that it has been so dry here means that SEPA has us within an alert area with a risk of water shortages due to an ongoing lack of rainfall, and this risk is only going to get much greater over time, if we don't start to see some significant rainfall here very soon.


 


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picturesareme
21 July 2020 00:48:57

Originally Posted by: Jason H 


 


Agreed. Heavy drizzle for 15 minutes, but cloudy most of the day yesterday. Pretty chilly on my 4.5 mile run first thing this morning, but a glorious summers day followed, reaching 23 degress mid afternoon with low humidity. Perfect. Scattered clouds and a gentle warm breeze as the day wore on. Dinner in the garden this evening followed by a walk around the local park in t-shirts and shorts. The rest of the week looks to be in a similar vein for us denizens in the extreme South East.


I know that the NW/SE split is often discussed here, but this year, it seems to be an extreme South East split.



Given that the warmest temperatures in the UK were actually further west on the south coast, and that's not for the first time in this past week either, i would say that it isn't really and extreme southeast split.


Since the start of July national day time top temps have been 3 times at Gosport on the south coast of Hampshire, 6 times at Heathrow in southwest London, and once at Charlwood Surrey, once in Farnborough Hampshire, 3 times at Pershore Wales, Exeter also picked up one. The extreme south east did pick up three temperature extreme's though but one was for the coldest night  Manston Kent picked up the hottest day for the extreme southeast on the 1st & 5th July, and if you want to include Essex in the 'extreme' southeast then Shoeburyness did have one day with the national top temp.

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