I've just been looking at FB trying to gauge the attitude of people generally to the govt. message. The variety of opinions is extraordinary but there are definitely large numbers who really believe that the problem is all made up and that it has been blown out of proportion.

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You've probably got another 10% who think themselves too special for the restrictions to apply to them.

Yep, and when you convert that % to people, that's a lot of the population to rely on to work together to get through this.

I think everyone now knows the lockdown should have been earlier but this is pretty damning..

Coronavirus: Earlier Scottish lockdown 'could have prevented 2,000 deaths'

An outbreak began in Edinburgh on 26 and 27 of February at a conference for the sportswear giant Nike. More than 70 employees from all over the world attended the conference at the Hilton Carlton Hotel.

One of the delegates from abroad brought the virus into Edinburgh and infected many of their fellow Nike employees, who then returned to their own countries. At least 25 people linked to this one event are confirmed to have been infected - eight of them resident in Scotland.

Health authorities in Scotland were aware of this potential outbreak by 2 March, but the public were not told about it. 

Despite knowing the virus had been in Scotland since at least late February, Scotland did not ban mass gatherings until 16 March, or go into lockdown until 23 March - the same day as the restrictions were announced by the UK government.

Scotland's own advisory panel - featuring Professor Devi Sridhar, chair of public health at Edinburgh University - was set up two days after the lockdown was introduced.

Prof Sridhar said there had "definitely" been more than enough information about the coming pandemic for action to have been taken much sooner across the UK.

She said: "We should have been acting by mid-February. We could see that this was not easily a virus to be contained."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52617895

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I've just been looking at FB trying to gauge the attitude of people generally to the govt. message. The variety of opinions is extraordinary but there are definitely large numbers who really believe that the problem is all made up and that it has been blown out of proportion.

Scarey! Perhaps if we go into a a tighter lockdown with curfews and army on the streets that might convince them something's up.

There's a virus hospital special on BBC2 right now and an eye opener. This should be on BBC1. Rather than hearing about numbers in updates, people should see real life what is going on. It would ram it home to a few more.

If you thought our testing was sh1t then you should see what the French have been up to 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

Assuming it works it would seem a good early warning system of the virus starting to infect more people. Being tried in NE England too

https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/latest/2020/04/covid19sewage/

Guidance for different work environments.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19

Oh good, I don't have to write down the risk assessment I did in my head 2 weeks ago - and all the advice is to do what I was already going to do.

But then, its all common sense ....

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We took delivery of a sofa ordered in early December this afternoon. Today was the first day of deliveries since lockdown started.

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If you thought our testing was sh1t then you should see what the French have been up to 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

Assuming it works it would seem a good early warning system of the virus starting to infect more people. Being tried in NE England too

https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/latest/2020/04/covid19sewage/

So the opinions early on that this whole thing was a shitshow have proved correct.

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If you thought our testing was sh1t then you should see what the French have been up to 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

Assuming it works it would seem a good early warning system of the virus starting to infect more people. Being tried in NE England too

https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/latest/2020/04/covid19sewage/

Merde! They beat us to it.

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I have been impressed with Starmer so far and I thought that was a good address.

He comes across as sensible, articulate, level headed and intelligent. 

 Looks like I made a sound choice.

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Interesting read https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/health/coronavirus-plague-pandemic-history.html

 

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No doubt the New Brexit Party apologists will gloss over this contribution by Hunt. 

 

Jeremy Hunt - The failure to look at what Asian countries were doing at the outset, of #COVID19, will rank as one of the biggest failures of scientific advice to ministers in our lifetime.. pic.twitter.com/ACBfLub5k4

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) May 11, 2020

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Merde! They beat us to it.

BBC MAY5th

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-52544247

Interesting read https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/health/coronavirus-plague-pandemic-history.html

 

Some hid in their homes. Others refused to accept the threat. Their way of coping, Boccaccio wrote, was to “drink heavily, enjoy life to the full, go round singing and merrymaking, and gratify all of one’s cravings when the opportunity emerged, and shrug the whole thing off as one enormous joke.”

 Way to go!

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BBC MAY5th

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-52544247

Paris 21 Apr
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

Australis 23 April
https://theconversation.com/flushing-is-our-next-weapon-against-covid-19-if-youre-happy-to-have-your-sewage-scrutinised-136844

Sadly it is all part of the rinse and repeat that is now widespread in online media. Basically republishing the same story is a cheap way to get more clicks. I expect it will be doing the rounds again in a few weeks time.

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Some hid in their homes. Others refused to accept the threat. Their way of coping, Boccaccio wrote, was to “drink heavily, enjoy life to the full, go round singing and merrymaking, and gratify all of one’s cravings when the opportunity emerged, and shrug the whole thing off as one enormous joke.”

 Way to go!

I didn't know Beast lived there!

 

Paris 21 Apr
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/coronavirus-found-paris-sewage-points-early-warning-system

Australis 23 April
https://theconversation.com/flushing-is-our-next-weapon-against-covid-19-if-youre-happy-to-have-your-sewage-scrutinised-136844

Sadly it is all part of the rinse and repeat that is now widespread in online media. Basically republishing the same story is a cheap way to get more clicks. I expect it will be doing the rounds again in a few weeks time.

Yep, date, or at least the month was in the title but thought i would post it as it was interesting and it wasn't a story i hadn't seen mentioned on here before. Gave me a cheap joke too as well which may have been a factor.

Get in there, Mr Morgan!

https://www.facebook.com/PeoplesMomentum/videos/237489280855346/

 

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Both Whitty and Vallance suggested in the briefing they’d be gobsmacked if there was wasn’t some form of breakthrough in fighting this virus - whether it’s a vaccine or a successful treatment regime. 

That’s a minor positive in let’s be honest, what has been another frustrating and tiresome day.

Let's hope their cautious optimism, if it can be described as such, is not misplaced Joe.

I can't remember which of Whitty and Vallance it was who only 2-3 weeks ago were downplaying the chances of a successful vaccine against Covid-19 coming along any time in the near future. I guess they have to be careful with what they say given their public roles, but I for onw am placing my faith in the work that Professor Sarah Gilbert and her team of scientists are doing in Oxford.

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You can't keep the country locked down indefinitely - it has to be lifted sooner or later.

The key to keeping it under control for the future is proper border controls, whether the airline and tourist industries like it or not.

Those countries which have controlled it internally, have kept it out via stringent border controls.

That was one of the biggest blunders HMG government made in the early stages of this crisis; see the clip with Peirs Morgan which I quoted above.

Imposing strict border controls once it became clear how serious the situation overseas was becoming should have been a matter of no more than basic common sense. More than 30,000 people (official figure) in this country have now paid the ultimate price for the gross negligence of this government.

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