September has been a continuation of the lovely summer here with plenty of warm sunshine.  We’ve had very little rain since June, so I can’t complain about yesterday’s downpour.  It actually smells like Autumn now with the wet ground.  I don’t mind the shorter days and colder weather when they follow a good summer.  I look forward to the change in seasons, when they deliver what I expect them to!  

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I know we need rain but not during school run time. I got soaked through yesterday morning 

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Those of you who have been watching Gavin P.'s most recent videos will probably have not failed to notice the fact that he has been using phrases such as "primarily focused on England and Wales" or something similar which has "England and Wales" as part of that phrase to the extent that it feels to me as though it is always a case of "England and Wales, this" and "England and Wales, that".

That is something which I would expect from the mainstream media, especially the mainstream media which is based in London or elsewhere in England due to the bias which this media tends to show towards the south of England in particular. Gavin P. is not part of the mainstream media though (although he would probably do a very good job for them) and so, I don't believe that Gavin P. is actually showing any sort of England and Wales bias in this case.

I think that what Gavin P. is actually conveying here, is the fact that England and Wales is likely to get virtually all of the more "interesting" weather according to the latest model output and because of that, this is then coming over in his videos in the manner in which I have just described and which I am getting a bit fed up with now because I would like to see some "interesting" weather here where I live although this wouldn't prevent me in any way from watching his videos in future as he does produce some very good content.

The fact that England and Wales is being modelled to get the vast majority of all of the more "interesting" weather that will be coming up is just typical of the fact that Edinburgh (which is not in either England or Wales) is a location which on average, hardly ever gets any "interesting" weather in comparison with what the rest of the UK gets. I have often on this forum, claimed that Edinburgh is one of the most boring parts of the UK on average when it comes to our weather and that can't be far away from actually being the case.

In response to that, the likes of Richard from Aberdeen will often come on and claim that his part of the world is the most boring part of the UK in terms of our weather but even if that is actually correct, Edinburgh has to at the very least, come in at a very close second place in that contest. This is shown by the fact that up until now, we have been experiencing our most boring and uneventful start to any autumn on record with no signs of that changing any time soon according to the latest model output.

Today was yet another example of that with very little in the way of recorded rainfall (that amounts to just 1.6 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with just 0.6 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh as at 10pm tonight) or sunshine (a total of just 2.4 hours of sunshine was recorded for today in the end at Edinburgh Gogarbank) and it really doesn't get much more boring or uneventful than that, especially since this is a week where our weather was supposed to become more "interesting" according to the model output leading up to that.

From now on, I will therefore expect our weather to carry on being boring and uneventful, whilst England and Wales gets that more "interesting" weather which has been modelled for down there.

 

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This weather absolutely stinks. Only metaphorically of course otherwise it would be like living in a piggery where there is an outbreak of diarrhoea that gets worse with each passing day 

Was supposed to be fine today then at the last minute the forecast changes to one of abject filth. Even yesterday morning the forecast showed 16C and sunshine. What do we have? Relentless rain and cloud streaming in from the North Sea that looks set to last all day and it's a truly putrid 9.7C currently which is lower than it's got for the past eight nights. The last chance to get one sunny Saturday and it turns out to be the worst day of the whole repulsive year. The only time I have been able to enjoy good weather on a Saturday since April has been if I've managed to escape from this hellhole 

September was the last chance to get one decent month out of the year of relentless mediocre unmemorable rubbish and it has been the worst month. Terrible depressing dirge. Only the first weekend has seen above average sunshine and it was pathetically cool for the time of year with both days failing to reach 14C. Utter crap and the final third of the month has been so vile it defies classification.

The most disgusting and hideous September weather I can recall. It's just been a relentless onlsaught of rain, fog, ridiculously mild nights and lack of temperature variation. Even mid-September 2014 and late September 1998  didn't see so much rain day after day and at least in September 1995 the rain was so exceptional as to be interesting. Of course it followed on from an exceptional spell of warmth and sun that has never been repeated and likely never will. Nothing ever exceptional occurs these days except stupid mild nights which I detest with every bone in my body 

It is an abominable waste of the last few weeks where there is still some light in the evenings and the sun has a bit of strength at least. I couldn't get outside one evening after work and now I'm stuck indoors likely the whole day long. When the hell can you get any excerise? It's a danger to health and bleak and depressing as the worst of November. 

Coming week looks utterly awful as well with rain every day and horrible cold day temperatures accompanied by a nasty wind that will prevent it getting cold at night. Sickening, tedious rubbish and all the worst for knowing that it's not going to get any better now and there is nothing but months of endless crap lying ahead

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This weather absolutely stinks. Only metaphorically of course otherwise it would be like living in a piggery where there is an outbreak of diarrhoea that gets worse with each passing day 

Was supposed to be fine today then at the last minute the forecast changes to one of abject filth. Even yesterday morning the forecast showed 16C and sunshine. What do we have? Relentless rain and cloud streaming in from the North Sea that looks set to last all day and it's a truly putrid 9.7C currently which is lower than it's got for the past eight nights. The last chance to get one sunny Saturday and it turns out to be the worst day of the whole repulsive year. The only time I have been able to enjoy good weather on a Saturday since April has been if I've managed to escape from this hellhole 

Have a look at the rainfall radar, Richard. It's even worse here! Heavy persistant driving rain. Temp now falling from 12.9C earlier to 12.4C now. I know I live in a wet part of the country but this is woeful even for us!

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This weather absolutely stinks. Only metaphorically of course otherwise it would be like living in a piggery where there is an outbreak of diarrhoea that gets worse with each passing day 

Was supposed to be fine today then at the last minute the forecast changes to one of abject filth. Even yesterday morning the forecast showed 16C and sunshine. What do we have? Relentless rain and cloud streaming in from the North Sea that looks set to last all day and it's a truly putrid 9.7C currently which is lower than it's got for the past eight nights. The last chance to get one sunny Saturday and it turns out to be the worst day of the whole repulsive year. The only time I have been able to enjoy good weather on a Saturday since April has been if I've managed to escape from this hellhole 

September was the last chance to get one decent month out of the year of relentless mediocre unmemorable rubbish and it has been the worst month. Terrible depressing dirge. Only the first weekend has seen above average sunshine and it was pathetically cool for the time of year with both days failing to reach 14C. Utter crap and the final third of the month has been so vile it defies classification.

The most disgusting and hideous September weather I can recall. It's just been a relentless onlsaught of rain, fog, ridiculously mild nights and lack of temperature variation. Even mid-September 2014 and late September 1998  didn't see so much rain day after day and at least in September 1995 the rain was so exceptional as to be interesting. Of course it followed on from an exceptional spell of warmth and sun that has never been repeated and likely never will. Nothing ever exceptional occurs these days except stupid mild nights which I detest with every bone in my body 

It is an abominable waste of the last few weeks where there is still some light in the evenings and the sun has a bit of strength at least. I couldn't get outside one evening after work and now I'm stuck indoors likely the whole day long. When the hell can you get any excerise? It's a danger to health and bleak and depressing as the worst of November. 

Coming week looks utterly awful as well with rain every day and horrible cold day temperatures accompanied by a nasty wind that will prevent it getting cold at night. Sickening, tedious rubbish and all the worst for knowing that it's not going to get any better now and there is nothing but months of endless crap lying ahead

 

I agree with the mild nights - here in Devon or Exeter rather a few nights ago the temperature never really fell below 17.5c. Felt so humid and tropical outside. 17.5c is really a September daytime average  not night time minimum.

We need a cold night with frost to freeze these horrible slugs!! and snails too. We are in October in a couple days time and this is too mild especially by night.

Also yes - my other moan are slugs in porch and patio also coming into my kitchen and around my bins and I don;t know how they are getting in it's sickening!! Anyone else had or have had the issue with slugs coming in the kitchen? I believe they like moisture and maybe come in underneath the front door so put tape over it and slug pellets as well as salt!! Slimy and just ...Eww!!

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Why is this thread so quiet? The weather is horrible. Wet, miserable, cold, dark gunk. Just stop raining please. We don't need any more. 

Why is this thread so quiet? The weather is horrible. Wet, miserable, cold, dark gunk. Just stop raining please. We don't need any more. 

 

If we're to have this sort of weather - and given all the geographical factors, the UK is going to - then late Sept to early/mid-Oct is fine with me. It's like that late-March through April period where, unless there's some genuinely freak set-up, it's not going to be cold or hot enough to be interesting.

 

Though I did find myself pondering over the weekend how great it would be if, just one time, all that rain would fall as snow. Probably talking 50cm+ low level, more in the hills.

Snowmageddon bliss!!

 

 

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This period is always my "meh" part of the year - September and October - so it can pretty much do what it wants weather-wise.

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Wish it would stop bloody raining though. Getting a bit tedious now.

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If we're to have this sort of weather - and given all the geographical factors, the UK is going to - then late Sept to early/mid-Oct is fine with me. It's like that late-March through April period where, unless there's some genuinely freak set-up, it's not going to be cold or hot enough to be interesting.

 

Though I did find myself pondering over the weekend how great it would be if, just one time, all that rain would fall as snow. Probably talking 50cm+ low level, more in the hills.

Snowmageddon bliss!!

 

 

I suppose today's setup could deliver snow in winter for some.  I think many would be frustrated though and the heavy stuff that has been across the far North of England would have been the snow,  with it staying frustratingly to the north of us and then fragmenting as it pushes south as it is doing right now.   Disappointment always wins!

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I suppose today's setup could deliver snow in winter for some.  I think many would be frustrated though and the heavy stuff that has been across the far North of England would have been the snow,  with it staying frustratingly to the north of us and then fragmenting as it pushes south as it is doing right now.   Disappointment always wins!

 

Oh aye, you're right there - and I wasn't meaning the ppn had to come from a system like this. Just that it'd be nice for the 'absolutely bang-on' conditions to be there for the UK to get that mythical, 2-foot of level snow event. 

I can just imagine the wailing & gnashing of teeth  

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This period is always my "meh" part of the year - September and October - so it can pretty much do what it wants weather-wise.

I like all of our seasons for different reasons.  Autumn is appealing for the slow slide from summer-like weather in September transitioning through to a typical mix of autumnal rains, gales, mist and fog, before becoming winter-like as we move through November and the first hints of wintry weather can appear.

I find December can be the worst month if it's just endless days of mild gunk and gloom but then Xmas provides a relief and there's the knowledge that the sun is on its journey back north.

 

We can't change the weather so you either enjoy it or suffer it. 

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I like all of our seasons for different reasons.  Autumn is appealing for the slow slide from summer-like weather in September transitioning through to a typical mix of autumnal rains, gales, mist and fog, before becoming winter-like as we move through November and the first hints of wintry weather can appear.

I find December can be the worst month if it's just endless days of mild gunk and gloom but then Xmas provides a relief and there's the knowledge that the sun is on its journey back north.

 

We can't change the weather so you either enjoy it or suffer it. 

 

I like the darkness of December. I think it invokes some deeply-buried inherited memory of worshiping light and fire or something 

One of the best conditions I can imagine is a very cold December day with snow on the ground, but thick cloud never dissipates, so it never gets properly light - and what light there is feels weird because of the snow on the ground. And odd perpetual twilight. Beautiful.

 

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Now that we're into October, my question now is whether or not, we are actually going to get any sort of "interesting" weather in this part of the world or whether that will be too much to ask for once again as it was during September.

This is now getting into the time of year when I would start to expect our first official air frost of the season so if we don't get that as we head towards the end of this month and if don't get our first single figures maximum temperatures of this season at around that time, this would then just be typical of the way that our weather is becoming these days within the currently warming climate.

If we then don't also get at least one bout of heavy rain and gales during this month (maybe, ex-Hurricane Lorenzo will provide a bit of that, although I wouldn't exactly be gambling my house away on that), that will then probably be enough already, to confirm this autumn's place as our most boring and uneventful autumn on record in this part of the world.

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Couldn't get more uninteresting and boring if it tried really? a day/night time range of 3-4c difference at best in Aberdeen?

12/13c by day and 8c by night??? :o

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gfnt07u1s 

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It doesn't matter how vile it is during the week it always gets worse at the weekend 

First year in my 13 years of records where the weekend weather was worse than weekday in every single month during the summer half of the year.

Weekend sunshine as a % of weekday:

Even September where there is usally more of a 'Weekday Curse' was a let down and it keeps on getting worse and worse. The worst ever year for the Weekend Curse 

Saturday is just the absolute pits with these percentages compared to weekday average for each month since April:

53%, 78%, 94%, 56%, 86%, 76%

There basically hasn't been a really good one since March and it's absolutely disgusting out there again. Grim, dull, rainy grey garbage for the second weekend in a row. It's just unreal. This weekend looks an even bigger abomination than last weeks stinking write-off 

It's just intolerable. There is no useable weather at all. Stuck indoors constantly I'm at risk of developing pressure sores. Thank god, for both my physical and mental health, I will be spending the second half of this godawful month in Cyprus. Just can't take any more of this.

It's hard to imagine how it could be more dire than the past fortnight of unrelenting filth. One of the most dis-spiriting, depressing and soul destroying periods of weather I can ever recall. The persistent rank chilly feeling days, mild nights and rain pretty much every day. There hasn't been a dry day so far in this vile month but there hasn't even been 5mm

Hasn't reached 13C in over a week yet at the same time it's got no lower than a lame 3.6C. 

I see the Met Office has uploaded interesting old Observatory Year books which can help but this era of unprecedented bland tripe into context.

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.uk/SO_5575296f-0406-49f5-89cb-54cd79486b75/

I'll be using them over the winter to try and assess just how bad the situation is with regard to SE winds which appear to have increased in frequency so as almost to become the dominant wind. Can't get any sort of extended break from them yet it's been weeks since the wind blew from the West or South West 

Already picked up some interesting nuggets regarding rainfall intensity. Several intense events that are just unheard of in this dismal era of unrelenting drizzly blandness:

6 Sept 1927: 30mm in less than five hours

22-23 Sept 1927: 71mm in 34 hours

10 Oct 1941: 62.5mm in 18 hours, during which 10mm fell in 72 minutes

28 Oct 1945: 27mm in five hours - this came after only four days rain in the first 20 during the month

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the commentary in the 1925 edition.

"There were no really notable falls of rain during 1925"

Then the following events are outlined:

Jan 2: 20mm fell in 5 1/2 hours during a snowstorm 

May 18: 9mm fell in little over an hour of which 5mm fell in 15 minutes

July 26: 15mm fell in 2 1/2 hours during a thunderstorm

July 29: 16mm in under 5 hours of which 5mm fell in 10 minutes

Sept 19-20: 23mm fell in 11 hours

Oct 26: 13mm fell in 2 1/2 hours, 5mm of which fell in 10 minutes

God knows what that observer would think about 2019's weather. In todays context I would consider every one of those events notable and nothing has come close to any of them during this tedious year. A week ago there was 23mm in 24 hours and that has been about as intense as it's got. We probably haven't seen anything like any of them since the record wet June 2017 at least.

Definite tendancy for more rain days, less intense rainfall and shorter dry spells/droughts compared to the past that's for sure. Truly awful era for a Weather Enthusiast. I keep saying that but things just keep sinking further and further into the weather abyss

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I can't describe it as bad as Richard (who can? 😁) But it's been pretty awful here too. Would be nice to see some lengthy sunny spells & a drier period of weather. Not looking likely though.

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It doesn't matter how vile it is during the week it always gets worse at the weekend 

First year in my 13 years of records where the weekend weather was worse than weekday in every single month during the summer half of the year.

Weekend sunshine as a % of weekday:

Even September where there is usally more of a 'Weekday Curse' was a let down and it keeps on getting worse and worse. The worst ever year for the Weekend Curse 

Saturday is just the absolute pits with these percentages compared to weekday average for each month since April:

53%, 78%, 94%, 56%, 86%, 76%

There basically hasn't been a really good one since March and it's absolutely disgusting out there again. Grim, dull, rainy grey garbage for the second weekend in a row. It's just unreal. This weekend looks an even bigger abomination than last weeks stinking write-off 

It's just intolerable. There is no useable weather at all. Stuck indoors constantly I'm at risk of developing pressure sores. Thank god, for both my physical and mental health, I will be spending the second half of this godawful month in Cyprus. Just can't take any more of this.

It's hard to imagine how it could be more dire than the past fortnight of unrelenting filth. One of the most dis-spiriting, depressing and soul destroying periods of weather I can ever recall. The persistent rank chilly feeling days, mild nights and rain pretty much every day. There hasn't been a dry day so far in this vile month but there hasn't even been 5mm

Hasn't reached 13C in over a week yet at the same time it's got no lower than a lame 3.6C. 

I see the Met Office has uploaded interesting old Observatory Year books which can help but this era of unprecedented bland tripe into context.

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.uk/SO_5575296f-0406-49f5-89cb-54cd79486b75/

I'll be using them over the winter to try and assess just how bad the situation is with regard to SE winds which appear to have increased in frequency so as almost to become the dominant wind. Can't get any sort of extended break from them yet it's been weeks since the wind blew from the West or South West 

Already picked up some interesting nuggets regarding rainfall intensity. Several intense events that are just unheard of in this dismal era of unrelenting drizzly blandness:

6 Sept 1927: 30mm in less than five hours

22-23 Sept 1927: 71mm in 34 hours

10 Oct 1941: 62.5mm in 18 hours, during which 10mm fell in 72 minutes

28 Oct 1945: 27mm in five hours - this came after only four days rain in the first 20 during the month

Didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the commentary in the 1925 edition.

"There were no really notable falls of rain during 1925"

Then the following events are outlined:

Jan 2: 20mm fell in 5 1/2 hours during a snowstorm 

May 18: 9mm fell in little over an hour of which 5mm fell in 15 minutes

July 26: 15mm fell in 2 1/2 hours during a thunderstorm

July 29: 16mm in under 5 hours of which 5mm fell in 10 minutes

Sept 19-20: 23mm fell in 11 hours

Oct 26: 13mm fell in 2 1/2 hours, 5mm of which fell in 10 minutes

God knows what that observer would think about 2019's weather. In todays context I would consider every one of those events notable and nothing has come close to any of them during this tedious year. A week ago there was 23mm in 24 hours and that has been about as intense as it's got. We probably haven't seen anything like any of them since the record wet June 2017 at least.

Definite tendancy for more rain days, less intense rainfall and shorter dry spells/droughts compared to the past that's for sure. Truly awful era for a Weather Enthusiast. I keep saying that but things just keep sinking further and further into the weather abyss

 

Just to cheer us up!!!? - Look what's happening in Denver today and tomorrow?

They forecast snow to fall and accumulating up to 10cms? - Surely this must be incorrect? The ground surfaces must be too warm for any snow to settle??? Doesn't make sense?

28c with sun today 09/10/19

-3c with snow tomorrow?

Surely the ground surface temps would be too hot for any snow to settle? No??? What do you think?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/denver/80203/current-weather/347810

I know North America are prone to rapid temperature changes and weather changes but this is surely a record breaker? For the fastest change in temperature ever recorded? Some 33c temp range between today and tomorrow?

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/10/08/denver-weather-winter-blast-arrives-soon/

I would love to be there to experience this transition - must be fun but may give a headache - not to mention the altitude sickness too? - However, I do recall once when I lived in Calgary in 2005 (March!) when it was 17 or 18c and as i went into a shopping Mall then by early evening as I came out of the shopping Mall (Chinook) I still had short sleeves on - the temperature plummeted to a cold 3c with heavy wet snow and sleet and a few hours later it fell -1c with dry snow by night time and settling almost everywhere!! - Despite it being so warm both air temp and ground surface temps less than a day earlier!?

Yet here we are in the Uk and have the joy and pleasure of experiencing of 14c today with overcast skies and spits of drizzle and 13c tonight with light rain.

 

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I would love to be there to experience this transition - must be fun but may give a headache - not to mention the altitude sickness too? - However, I do recall once when I lived in Calgary in 2005 (March!) when it was 17 or 18c and as i went into a shopping Mall then by early evening as I came out of the shopping Mall (Chinook) I still had short sleeves on - the temperature plummeted to a cold 3c with heavy wet snow and sleet and a few hours later it fell -1c with dry snow by night time and settling almost everywhere!! - Despite it being so warm both air temp and ground surface temps less than a day earlier!?

 

I was in Calgary in May 2002. When we arrived, temps were nudging 80f - but there were some piles of snow still on the ground (albeit melting rather quickly!) from a heavy fall a few days previously. 6/7 days later, the temp dropped off to barely above freezing and, overnight, around 9" of snow fell. By the time we departed a week later, temps were back up to mid-70's.

I love Canada!

 

 

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