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The Beast from the East
16 February 2019 10:00:10

Spring on the way


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Heavy Weather 2013
16 February 2019 12:44:37
If we can’t get snow this will have to do

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK06_141_2.png 

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Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

nsrobins
16 February 2019 13:26:18

If we can’t get snow this will have to do

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK06_141_2.png

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Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I’m guessing 16C somewhere like the east central lowlands on that chart, with sunshine. The enthusiasm for some of the projected 850s should be tempered - the add 10deg rule isn’t always a good guide in winter setups.

In the meantime I’m still keeping options open so long as some of the deterministic and ensemble data keep the high elevated. A small change in upstream forcing could easily drag the high further North and open the door to the east.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

tallyho_83
16 February 2019 16:46:12

How many of these type of charts have we seen this winter at 240 hours? 

GEM's  day 10 offering this morning

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

So that means it's not going to happen then:

Just remarkable summer like charts - this would be almost 2 weeks of temperatures in the low to mid teens if this comes about:

Gobsmacked! 

This must be very boring for weather forecasters ...gosh!!

So this is the blocking in response to the SSW back in early Jan - only difference is that it's way too far south and we are on the milder side of the block if not warmer!


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)


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Ally Pally Snowman
16 February 2019 17:09:20

Incredible output next week I'm convinced we'll beat the February all time temp . 20c is there for the taking 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
marco 79
16 February 2019 17:39:13
Im not convinced we'll see record Feb temps next week....sure 14-16c .....maybe a 17c in the Lee of hills/mountains in the west and north....it's going to take a lot to peak 20c.....that's a tall order ....98' was exceptional....
Home : Mid Leicestershire ...135m ASL
David M Porter
16 February 2019 17:52:28

Im not convinced we'll see record Feb temps next week....sure 14-16c .....maybe a 17c in the Lee of hills/mountains in the west and north....it's going to take a lot to peak 20c.....that's a tall order ....98' was exceptional....

Originally Posted by: marco 79 

I'm not sure that even in Feb 1998, temps got as high as 20C that month. The 17/18C mark rings a bell with me but I don't think 20C was reached during that spell. Could be wrong about that though.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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tallyho_83
16 February 2019 17:58:22

Oh dear about the cold cluster of ensembles as we head into Spring but was expected - meanwhile we have 10 to 14 days of very mild and dry weather!


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)


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picturesareme
16 February 2019 18:01:25

 

I'm not sure that even in Feb 1998, temps got as high as 20C that month. The 17/18C mark rings a bell with me but I don't think 20C was reached during that spell. Could be wrong about that though.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

The 19.7C was questionable back in 1998, however the 19.5C wasn't and that was the warmest since 1891 when 19.4C was reached 

JACKO4EVER
16 February 2019 18:36:26
It’s going to be wonderful, can’t wait to feel the sunshine on my face. Ignore cold in FI - it’s been wrong for months now.
David M Porter
16 February 2019 18:48:16

It’s going to be wonderful, can’t wait to feel the sunshine on my face. Ignore cold in FI - it’s been wrong for months now.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

True, but even a stopped clock is correct a couple of times a day.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gandalf The White
16 February 2019 19:02:49

It’s going to be wonderful, can’t wait to feel the sunshine on my face. Ignore cold in FI - it’s been wrong for months now.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

Yes, looking like a continuation of the early start to spring. Day 10 ECM Op is perfection


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



doctormog
16 February 2019 19:04:41

Model output summary from mid next week:


JACKO4EVER
16 February 2019 19:54:48

Model output summary from mid next week:

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

surely it’s 

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Polar Low
16 February 2019 20:01:10
moomin75
16 February 2019 20:04:45

Hmmm colder members gaining support later on interesting.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=0&y=0&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&run=12&ext=fr&mode=0&sort=0

 

 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

I'm sure they will stay in FI. They nearly always do.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Polar Low
16 February 2019 20:07:25

March, zonal winds ease rapidly through spring, and tend to reverse to easterly in early April as the PV dissipates. Hence why the snow more likely at Easter than Xmas often rings true.

 

 

I'm sure they will stay in FI. They nearly always do.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

DPower
16 February 2019 20:35:11

I just hope next winter the ec46 is consigned to the bin regardless of whether it is showing the next ice age or blowtorch.
To consistently show (over 2 months) strong euro trough with heights to the nw/n only for it to be the polar opposite is truely laughable. The met probably had a huge sigh of relief that many of the general public do not acess the ec46 or read the 30 dayer. The anomaly charts for January look very consistent to what the ec46 was showing which which to me shows how misleading they can be and should be viewed with extreme caution. They are after all pressure anomaly charts. February as I said is the polar opposite.
For me I think had this winter been -qbo with the ssw we could have had a January that we would have talked about for many a year.
If the MJO had gone into the cod we would of seen much greater downwelling,the reason being westerly winds in trop can not propagate into downwelling easterly winds (remember seeing this in a couple of strat papers I have read). Thus when +QBO (MJO forcing) waves in trop try amplifing into downwelling SSW easterly wind they cancel each other out. Outcome.... non verifing amped phase signal of MJO blocked by downward easterly winds and blocked downward propagation SSW by MJO led amped trop waves into lower strat.
Of course I could be talking a load of cobblers wh knows.
I see the models starting to toy with the the idea of a late cold snap first half of March. May be of some interest.

soperman
16 February 2019 22:29:45

I'm sure they will stay in FI. They nearly always do.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Hoping so. Too late for faux cold now.

Bring on the warmth 


Happily living by the sea in Brixham......but sad to leave the snowy Chiltern Hills after 35 years!
Gandalf The White
16 February 2019 22:52:09

 

Hoping so. Too late for faux cold now.

Bring on the warmth 

Originally Posted by: soperman 

Unfortunately it's not too late for proper cold; we remain, even in southern lowland Britain, at risk for at least the next 4 weeks, at least in theory.

GFS 18z Op retrogresses the high after T+240 and we end on the edge of a cold northerly. It's just one of the ways a benign springlike spell can go quickly back to winter.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



Gray-Wolf
16 February 2019 23:05:42

If we again see the current FI morph into another HP with the 0c 850 hpa isotherm ongoing in its annual hike north ( average position) then we need a favourable position for said HP if we are to see cold allowed in for any sustained cold ( over 3 days?)

If we do just see H.P. again bossing the charts we could still see cold nights from a colder, less moist, feed?

For our March/April snow showers we need as LP with a long draw of P.M. off the top of Greenland otherwise our own lack of cold and the Atlantic leave us with an above marginal set up with only the tops seeing their last snow?

I'm on for a continuation of this same near Bartlett theme and on into a blazing spring ( when was the last of those?)


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Gandalf The White
16 February 2019 23:42:29

So,  both the Op and the parallel runs deliver retrogression and finish with a cold pattern established. GFSP more markedly:

 


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



Retron
17 February 2019 06:57:47
This morning's ECM goes absolutely nuts, bringing +14C 850s over parts of the UK on days 9 and 10:

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=0&map=0&type=0&archive=0 

Bear in mind the average for *August* down here is 10C!

There'd probably be an inversion, but if there wasn't and if those 850s were to be reflected at the surface... the record would go.


Leysdown, north Kent
Chiltern Blizzard
17 February 2019 07:07:45
Crazy chart! Even more crazy is P4 of the GEFS with 17c 850s... the nearest place with comparable 850s is Mecca! Interestingly, there’s an inversion there too with ground level temps very mild, not that special at around 14c tops.
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
KevBrads1
17 February 2019 07:09:35

This morning's ECM goes absolutely nuts, bringing +14C 850s over parts of the UK on days 9 and 10:

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=0&map=0&type=0&archive=0

Bear in mind the average for *August* down here is 10C!

There'd probably be an inversion, but if there wasn't and if those 850s were to be reflected at the surface... the record would go.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

How's this for an early season plume?  29th February 1960

 

 


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