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nsrobins
07 February 2019 06:51:20
ECM a model of consistency this morning (rarely have we been able to claim that this season) which adds weight to the argument that what was supposed to be a protracted westerly slide into Spring could be nothing of the sort.

In the next few days I’d like to see a bunching of the colder GEFS before getting too caught up in the possibility.

ECM decent though (apologies for repeating it lol)


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Karl Guille
07 February 2019 06:53:22

Not so good at 216hrs on this run as the Atlantic holds firm.


St. Sampson

Guernsey

Weathermac
07 February 2019 06:53:29

ECM remains resolute in its determination to bring in an easterly in a week's time.

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 

Of course it will happen all the really cold air has disappeared over Europe now.

DEW
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07 February 2019 07:18:00

0z ICON spins up a nasty low for the south on Sunday morning. Not quite as potent as the 12z chart yesterday but still very significant. Strong winds and snow risk as the colder air digs in.

http://images.meteociel.fr/im/9109/iconeu_uk1-2-78-0_gsw5.png

http://images.meteociel.fr/im/4243/iconeu_uk1-42-81-0_mjt7.png

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

Supported by  the BBC forecast last night, back end snow shown on in a band from East Anglia down to Southampton, but i don't see it on Arpege or Icon this morning.


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marco 79
07 February 2019 07:24:54
As above CB's post...GFS maintaining its Easterly feed outlook...Ops uppers not showing any real depth of cold ...few ens dropping below -10c....nice solution from para in particular....good trends showing again
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Snow Hoper
07 February 2019 07:37:57

What amuses me is the GFS Ensembles could end up having just the one mild bump around the 8th. This despite all the blow torch spring like charts/comments over the last few days. Even I was beginning to lose hope.


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Hippydave
07 February 2019 08:42:15
Must admit the current virtual easterly isn't really filling me with excitement. Sure it'd be chilly at the surface but uppers are very unexciting and we'd need an injection of decent cold air for it to be anything other than cold and damp imby. Plus it's still FI and we don't have cross model agreement so still just one possibility šŸ¤”

Being more optimistic, it's only early Feb so 4 week window for cold and snow down here and if the pattern does persist we'd drag some cold in eventually I guess šŸ™„


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nsrobins
07 February 2019 08:44:01
EC mean similar to OP which implies there might be ENS solutions with stronger higher Scandy heights going forward.

DeBilts might shed some light later this morning.


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ballamar
07 February 2019 09:02:31
Interesting looking charts, get the pattern and hopefully the cold will follow. Got the feeling we could be in for a typical late winter Easterly with damp cold snizzle without a strong enough cold pool to make it sub zero in the day. I am always hopeful of something akin to last year....which for the South/East would be great
Chiltern Blizzard
07 February 2019 09:30:22

Interesting looking charts, get the pattern and hopefully the cold will follow. Got the feeling we could be in for a typical late winter Easterly with damp cold snizzle without a strong enough cold pool to make it sub zero in the day. I am always hopeful of something akin to last year....which for the South/East would be great

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Well, buses always seem to come in twos so why not late winter easterlies?!  It could be up to 3c “milder” than last years and we’d still have a run of ice days and snow!


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ballamar
07 February 2019 10:27:51
Looking a bit of a sinker on this op run see where it fits in ENS
Russwirral
07 February 2019 10:30:26

Interesting to see a shot of tropical air coming up the side of Africa.  Could be the perfect shot of energy to push the scandi into place and introduce some cyclonic easterly.  Its unusual to see such a feature and would have interesting affects on the Jet.

Netweather GFS Image


Russwirral
07 February 2019 11:36:48

With that plume of WAA from north africa we almost get to an Omega block

 

Netweather GFS Image


ballamar
07 February 2019 11:46:01
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSPARAEU06_201_2.png 

Faux cold returns haha should be chilly with that set up

fairweather
07 February 2019 11:55:42

What amuses me is the GFS Ensembles could end up having just the one mild bump around the 8th. This despite all the blow torch spring like charts/comments over the last few days. Even I was beginning to lose hope.

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 

Ever the optimist ! It was 11.5C here yesterday and the GFS ensemble mean charts show well above average from 11th to 18th so a fair old blip if you are looking for a decent cold spell. Still chances after that though.


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Brian Gaze
07 February 2019 12:42:39

The vagaries of the so called "model output" discussion. At the moment all the evidence suggests the interesting weather will be in the next few days. Beyond that we could see a cool and boring easterly in parts of the UK. Beyond that things become very uncertain but you'd not bet on a full fat easterly like we had last year. 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoforecasts/ensemble-forecast.aspx?location=London

 


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Quantum
07 February 2019 14:11:22

There has definitely been a trend away from scandi high formation with slightly less WAA this morning. Hopefully not a trend that continues. I think, though, even if we do get a faux cold scandi high there is still a good chance we could end up with a retrogression to Greenland which is not an uncommon evolution.

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Quantum
07 February 2019 15:17:30

Less WAA on ICON12Z

 

Well if the trend reversal is going to happen it might aswell happen now before a meaningful amount of hope is there to be crushed.

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Downpour
07 February 2019 15:25:41

The vagaries of the so called "model output" discussion. At the moment all the evidence suggests the interesting weather will be in the next few days. Beyond that we could see a cool and boring easterly in parts of the UK. Beyond that things become very uncertain but you'd not bet on a full fat easterly like we had last year. 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoforecasts/ensemble-forecast.aspx?location=London

 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 

What interesting weather would this be then? 12mm of rain on Friday is not, in my book, at all interesting. 


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Russwirral
07 February 2019 16:11:39
Sunday continues to show prospect of snow to north wales and north midlands. Problem is - its here one minute gone the next , currently the icon isnt entertaining it but the GFS is - yesterday it was the reverse, the day before reversed again.

Will be finally balanced with higher ground seeing a more lean towards snow. But as ever one to watch,


Rob K
07 February 2019 16:43:43

 

 

What interesting weather would this be then? 12mm of rain on Friday is not, in my book, at all interesting. 

Originally Posted by: Downpour 

Gales probably qualify as interesting seeing how quiet the weather has generally been for months on end.


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marco 79
07 February 2019 17:11:01
NAO still hopefully looking to go in the right direction past midmonth...few more members picking up the (-) trend...

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/new.nao_index_ensm.html 


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marco 79
07 February 2019 17:14:53

AO interestingly was trending quite positive 2 days ago....

 

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml

 


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marco 79
07 February 2019 17:18:44
Brian Gaze
07 February 2019 17:51:21

 

Gales probably qualify as interesting seeing how quiet the weather has generally been for months on end.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

 Also the feature this weekend is interesting. 

 


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