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moomin75
06 December 2018 07:30:33

Day 7 and here comes the Atlantic, block receding to Russia -

 

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2018120600/ECM1-168.GIF

 

Quick rewrite from Exeter later !!

 

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 

This is what I feared would happen. All eyes on the new year now. Nothing of note this side of Christmas.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Ally Pally Snowman
06 December 2018 08:35:29

ECM Means fairly similar to the Op this morning easterly gets close but not close enough,  Atlantic wins this round!

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Brian Gaze
06 December 2018 08:38:28

On the plus side there are signs of it becoming very wet and stormy again late next week. The second best outcome from my perspective. 


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Berkhamsted

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Roger Parsons
06 December 2018 08:39:57

On the plus side there are signs of it becoming very wet and stormy again late next week. The second best outcome from my perspective. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Not mine, Brian - the roof is still covered in plastic sheets!

Roger


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

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Solar Cycles
06 December 2018 09:00:03

Next weeks Easterly was never going to be anything spectacular in terms of cold wintry conditions but once again peoples expectations from easterlies always ends in tears 9/10. 😁

I think around Xmas will be our next opportunity but I suspect we’ll be looking N/NE this time around with deeper troughing into Scandinavia and heights centred more to our NW.

Gavin D
06 December 2018 09:09:44

UKMO extended has the low in the Atlantic slightly closer to Ireland at t168

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The Beast from the East
06 December 2018 09:19:54

A shift away from any easterly this morning, the GEM has never bought into it and now the GFS is bringing the Atlantic through next Thursday - looking at the UKMO it would go the same way. 

ECM awaited but,as is often the case in December, the Atlantic looks too powerful to allow this one to happen.

 

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 

Yes, another epic fail to add to the long list.

Fortunately I didn't invest any effort into this one as it was all so predictable

There is too much heat and energy in the oceans now which make cold incursions less and less likely


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Gavin D
06 December 2018 09:22:11

 

Yes, another epic fail to add to the long list.

Fortunately I didn't invest any effort into this one as it was all so predictable

There is too much heat and energy in the oceans now which make cold incursions less and less likely

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

 

Then again, had folk also looked at GEM, JMA and ICON this downgrade wouldn't have come as such a surprise 

Whether Idle
06 December 2018 09:23:08

Next weeks Easterly was never going to be anything spectacular in terms of cold wintry conditions but once again peoples expectations from easterlies always ends in tears 9/10. 😁

I think around Xmas will be our next opportunity but I suspect we’ll be looking N/NE this time around with deeper troughing into Scandinavia and heights centred more to our NW.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Agree 100%.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ballamar
06 December 2018 09:25:53
The thing is there is still potential for getting the easterly if the Atlantic onslaught is slightly moderated. The next run could well flip back. Not long to wait
tallyho_83
06 December 2018 09:42:08

On the plus side there are signs of it becoming very wet and stormy again late next week. The second best outcome from my perspective. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Wet? and stormy? Why on the plus side?


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David M Porter
06 December 2018 09:42:09

 

Yes, another epic fail to add to the long list.

Fortunately I didn't invest any effort into this one as it was all so predictable

There is too much heat and energy in the oceans now which make cold incursions less and less likely

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

I seem to recall you making a similar point on a few occasions last winter. While there may be some truth in that, it didn't stop the event from which you take your username at the end of last February, did it?


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Tim A
06 December 2018 09:59:24

 

I seem to recall you making a similar point on a few occasions last winter. While there may be some truth in that, it didn't stop the event from which you take your username at the end of last February, did it?

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

Nor all the cold incursions in  the first half of the winter which produced exciting weather in the north and west. 


Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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warrenb
06 December 2018 10:13:02
The way I look at it is that we have (will have) 2 easterly incursions within the first 3 weeks of winter (if you include a bit of November), not bad, and with all the pointers aiming for a colder second half, not bad at all.
ballamar
06 December 2018 10:15:52
Still potential to get energy under the block
Russwirral
06 December 2018 10:34:44

Still potential to get energy under the block

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

 

 there will be potential up to a few days before.  Its never easily foretasted.  Preferably we need colder air over Scandinavia, that really hasnt happened yet though.  We havent seen our first real northerly plunge to get this into place.

 

Interesting to note the general track of LPs over the next week or two are forecast to be (in the main) a direct run West to East.  This is quite rare as we usually see them oscillate and move north east.  So the block is certainly influencing the weather, just a couple of hundred miles too east for the benefit of the UK is all.

 

This could mean a serious snow potential for anywhere on the northern edge of the LPs, the charts currently showing this setup for Central belt of Scotland with a number of snow events in the offing.

 


warrenb
06 December 2018 10:38:55
One word "Stormy"
ballamar
06 December 2018 10:52:40
GFS looks messy and many scenarios possible
wallaw
06 December 2018 10:58:23

 

Wet? and stormy? Why on the plus side?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Because they are weather types that excite...on a weather forum?


Ian

Stockton-on-Tees

fairweather
06 December 2018 11:02:04

I think around Xmas will be our next opportunity but I suspect we’ll be looking N/NE this time around with deeper troughing into Scandinavia and heights centred more to our NW.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Is this based on any specific model output or just a hunch?


S.Essex, 42m ASL
tallyho_83
06 December 2018 11:09:41

 

Because they are weather types that excite...on a weather forum?

Originally Posted by: wallaw 

Well since 1st day of winter it has turned stormy and the rain has been relentless since - a bit of an Atlantic onslaught really ! so we could do with drying our even if it's for a day or so!! who wants so much wind and rain?


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Sevendust
06 December 2018 11:15:32

 

Well since 1st day of winter it has turned stormy and the rain has been relentless since - a bit of an Atlantic onslaught really ! so we could do with drying our even if it's for a day or so!! who wants so much wind and rain?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Ian already answered that.

There is potential for some stormy weather even down here.

As a weather enthusiast, severe weather is always of interest to me in all its forms.

In general, cold easterly gloom doesn't cut it here much of the time

johncs2016
06 December 2018 11:29:59

 

Well since 1st day of winter it has turned stormy and the rain has been relentless since - a bit of an Atlantic onslaught really ! so we could do with drying our even if it's for a day or so!! who wants so much wind and rain?

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

That may well be true for the majority of the UK, but I don't think that this has been the case for everyone. Over recent days, there has been a couple of weather systems which have taken a much more southerly track across the UK which has meant that they have mainly affected the south of the UK and missed out Scotland altogether. For here in Edinburgh, this hasn't been enough to give us any completely dry days so far during this month, but it has meant that the rainfall totals for here in Edinburgh at the moment for this month so far, are actually running at no more than average just now and in fact, Monday would have been our first completely dry day of this month had the weather system from from the night before not taken until 1am on that morning to clear away.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

nsrobins
06 December 2018 12:08:47
As some point out the end of next week looks potentially volatile.

Pert 18 would destroy the country 😎


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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Whiteout
06 December 2018 12:45:18

As some point out the end of next week looks potentially volatile.
Pert 18 would destroy the country 😎

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Met not interested tho Neil


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