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TimS
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25 June 2018 07:28:48
It’s a lovely morning here. If we get a max temp of 29C as suggested by the models and then a slightly cooler Tuesday and Wednesday then this spell will gave peaked weirdly early. The uppers continue to rise up to Wednesday. All about wind direction I think, and lack of marine air.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Jiries
25 June 2018 07:34:58

It’s a lovely morning here. If we get a max temp of 29C as suggested by the models and then a slightly cooler Tuesday and Wednesday then this spell will gave peaked weirdly early. The uppers continue to rise up to Wednesday. All about wind direction I think, and lack of marine air.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

BBC forecast last night going for 30C today and that some 20C warmer from the 10C uppers today which by evening to start rising.  Imagine if this continue by mid week we would get 35C with 15C uppers.  I think the dry ground factor had increased the uppers and ground temps threshold from 15C to 20C,  Last year was 19C when it was 14C and ground max was 33C here.

TimS
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25 June 2018 07:35:59

And the grass has yellowed a further increment on the way to defcon 3. Not yet there though, and our hilltop park hilly fields which remained green even in 2003 (really) continues to be a lush emerald sward.

 

 

 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
LeedsLad123
25 June 2018 08:06:28
A stunning sunny morning here - I expect tomorrow morning will be similar but then after that I fear we'll be waking up to a layer of marine murk. Fun times.
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
johncs2016
25 June 2018 08:22:33
The latest BBC Scotland forecast is now going for that east coast haar to return by this time tomorrow morning which suggests that they are now modelling the blocking high to be a bit further north than what was originally anticipated. That in turn would be enough to bring us into an easterly wind which of course, would then be bringing in that east coast haar.

If it ends up like that though, that would be the last thing which we needed in this part of the world since we had more than enough easterly winds to do us fro the end of last winter, right up until the earlier part of this month.


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Saint Snow
25 June 2018 08:43:40

Don't know if Kev has the stats to back this up, but for this region (Merseyside/Manchester), it's been the best May-June I can ever recall.

Spent most of yesterday afternoon flitting between the hot tub and drying on the sun lounger. Couple of bottles of Erdinger enhanced the chilled vibe.


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Col
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25 June 2018 08:46:14

The latest BBC Scotland forecast is now going for that east coast haar to return by this time tomorrow morning which suggests that they are now modelling the blocking high to be a bit further north than what was originally anticipated. That in turn would be enough to bring us into an easterly wind which of course, would then be bringing in that east coast haar.

If it ends up like that though, that would be the last thing which we needed in this part of the world since we had more than enough easterly winds to do us fro the end of last winter, right up until the earlier part of this month.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

There is a rather odd looking hook of cloud lurking out in the North Sea that seems poised to take a swipe at Aberdeen Richard any moment now :)


Col

Bolton, Lancashire

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Saint Snow
25 June 2018 09:12:41

 

There is a rather odd looking hook of cloud lurking out in the North Sea that seems poised to take a swipe at Aberdeen Richard any moment now :)

Originally Posted by: Col 

 

I think he secretly loves being miserable. This will make his day.

 


Martin

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Stormchaser
25 June 2018 10:25:09

And the grass has yellowed a further increment on the way to defcon 3. Not yet there though, and our hilltop park hilly fields which remained green even in 2003 (really) continues to be a lush emerald sward.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

I think you may have bigger problems, was there a major earthquake or something? 

 

Absolutely glorious here this morning. Even in the early hours with the temp down to 9.5*C it felt very pleasant in the sun thanks to a total absence of wind.

Just a hint of a sea breeze starting to pick up here now. This will serve as a limiter on the heat for locations within around 20 miles of the coast (but only slightly outside of about 5 miles from it) for today and tomorrow, but higher humidity will offset that in terms of how it feels. I'm expecting to peak at 26-28*C depending on how quickly the sea breeze advances inland.

Wednesday looks to bring a more pronounced flow, initially from the E but increasingly toward NE as the day goes on. This may counter the sea breeze for places more than about 5 miles inland of the coast, in which case they will likely become some of the hottest in the country. So I can see my location getting closer to 30*C on that day.

Thursday then looks likely to bring a brisk NE breeze that should prevent the sea breeze getting much inland at all. With such a warm airmass in place, I'll be disappointed if my location doesn't get into the 30s as part of a band of the highest temperatures that looks to stretch approximately from the southern half of of Devon to central Hampshire. This detail could well change with any shift in the predicted wind direction, though.

 

Friday through the weekend sees more of an easterly return, then perhaps a southeasterly. That could add a sultry feel to things, but much remains to be resolved regarding how much instability comes with that. Funny that the first notable rain chances have for a long time looked to be on the first day of July, having allowed June to finish with exceptionally low totals for many of us. We'll see how well that holds!


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Maunder Minimum
25 June 2018 10:57:46

Denmark has had an even drier spring and early summer than the UK - the soil moisture deficit in much of Denmark is damaging agriculture:

http://www.freshplaza.com/article/196340/Drought-could-cost-Danish-growers-millions-of-euros

From one extreme to the other - last summer in Denmark it hardly stopped raining, whilst so far this year, it has hardly rained at all.


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howham
25 June 2018 11:08:32
It's been sunny all morning here.
KevBrads1
25 June 2018 11:54:42

Don't know if Kev has the stats to back this up, but for this region (Merseyside/Manchester), it's been the best May-June I can ever recall.

Spent most of yesterday afternoon flitting between the hot tub and drying on the sun lounger. Couple of bottles of Erdinger enhanced the chilled vibe.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

The only two you could compare it to are May-June 1989 and May-June 1992 with May-June 1992 the closest of anything in the last 30 or so years to what we are experiencing.

Going further back, May-June 1975 was exceptionally sunny and dry but May 1975 didn't have the sort of temperatures as May 2018

May-June 1959, May-June 1949

Overall as a package, (dryness, sunshine, high temperatures) it has probably been the best May-June on record.


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Bolty
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25 June 2018 12:16:04

I wonder how long this weather will need to keep up before we can safely say that summer 2018 has bucked the "summers ending in 8" trend? At the very least, 2018 will be remembered for a wonderful end to spring and a lovely June!


Scott

Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.

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Stormchaser
25 June 2018 13:58:11

It's officially reached the 'can't cool down without a fan' level here now.

Surprisingly, the sea breeze hasn't yet made it this far inland. Instead I have a very dry easterly breeze. 

 

Going out on a supply run (flexible work hours!), wish me luck out there .


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johncs2016
25 June 2018 14:35:19
With the way that the weather is at the moment in this part of the world, you would think that I was somewhere on the Spanish Costas rather than here in Scotland if you had just arrived here just now from foreign lands.

That is how superb this spell of weather is turning out to be just now.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

ozone_aurora
25 June 2018 14:49:38

There's been some interesting high clouds yesterday, including those producing sun pillars, plus there were some noctilucent clouds, e.g,

https://twitter.com/mazymixer/status/1010994865503703042.

https://twitter.com/northyorkswx/status/1010331110121893888.

Surprised it's not been mentioned.

 

johncs2016
25 June 2018 15:35:47

There's been some interesting high clouds yesterday, including those producing sun pillars, plus there were some noctilucent clouds, e.g,

https://twitter.com/mazymixer/status/1010994865503703042.

https://twitter.com/northyorkswx/status/1010331110121893888.

Surprised it's not been mentioned.

 

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

I have mentioned in the opening posts of at least one recent current conditions thread that I had seen some noctilucent clouds to my north, but I am surprised that no-one else has mentioned that.

In the opening post of today's current conditions thread, I said that those noctilucent clouds weren't there but that was just after midnight and when I then looked out a few hours later, I did notice that they were back.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

TimS
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25 June 2018 17:50:16
Some more very low humidity readings today, and it really felt that way. Mid afternoon it was 29C in London with DPs of 6C in the centre and 5C at Heathrow. That’s 21.8% RH.

Still my colleagues were complaining about the humidity (for which read they were sweating when walking outside).


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Saint Snow
26 June 2018 15:56:26

*** BUMP ***

 


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moomin75
26 June 2018 15:59:11

*** BUMP ***

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Bumping just in time for summer to end with storms, a drop in temperature and then a very unsettled and much cooler July. 


Witney, Oxfordshire

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Crepuscular Ray
26 June 2018 16:44:56
Does anybody know what's been causing the annoying conveyor belt of thick cirrostratus over the last 3 days. It's been generating to the SW of Britain and moving north over Ireland then NE over Scotland spoiling things for us. As if we don't have enough with the haar!
Jerry

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speckledjim
26 June 2018 16:51:32

Bumping just in time for summer to end with storms, a drop in temperature and then a very unsettled and much cooler July. 

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

 

Always know there's a potential for the good weather to end when you increase your posting. It's either an end to cold weather in Winter or hot weather in Summer, and you're out of the woodwork 


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johncs2016
26 June 2018 17:07:55

Does anybody know what's been causing the annoying conveyor belt of thick cirrostratus over the last 3 days. It's been generating to the SW of Britain and moving north over Ireland then NE over Scotland spoiling things for us. As if we don't have enough with the haar!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Difficult to say.

I suppose that can happen when an Atlantic weather system is in the process of clipping NW Scotland as it is diverted northwards and then eastwards around the blocking area of high pressure which is giving us our dry weather. That could I suppose, result in some high cloud spilling southwards into that area of high pressure in the process and thus affecting this part of the world.

However, that doesn't explain why we are also still getting that east coast haar at the same time because that haar is something which usually comes with an easterly wind and for that to be in place, the blocking high would need to be centred to the north of us when then also pushes any Atlantic weather systems to the north as well, which would be moving around the top of it.

I suppose we could ask ourselves the question of whether we are actually in a true easterly, or whether the haar is really just been brought in by a local sea breeze which had formed during the day. That is possible when the high pressure is centred right on top of here and this would allow for high cloud from weather systems moving around the high pressure to the north of it, then spilling into the area of high pressure itself.

The problem with that though is that local sea breezes only ever form during the day and then disappear during the night and so, the fact that the east coast haar has been coming in during the night means that it's can't really be getting in by what is just a local sea breeze. When you add all of that together, that leaves me a bit stumped as why that has happened.

However, I know that are likely to be members of this forum who are more knowledgeable than me in this area, and who might be able to answer that question, so I will open this one up to allow them do so.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

moomin75
26 June 2018 17:09:11

 

 

Always know there's a potential for the good weather to end when you increase your posting. It's either an end to cold weather in Winter or hot weather in Summer, and you're out of the woodwork 

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

I've been posting throughout this hot spell actually. I don't just pop up to spread gloom and doom.


Witney, Oxfordshire

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bledur
26 June 2018 17:46:56

Bumping just in time for summer to end with storms, a drop in temperature and then a very unsettled and much cooler July. 

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

 Summer to end eh? Say it turns unsettled for half of July you still got another 2 weeks plus August. We have had a lot of dry fine weather so a fortnight changeable wont ruin the summer will it?If it does stay unsettled for the rest of the summer then so be it , but the trend this year seems to be sry and warm , so it would be a major shift in pattern rather than an un settled spell.

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