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Hungry Tiger
05 June 2018 09:25:44

Hmmmmmmmm

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

Not too bad - But the green part seems to be getting closer.


Gavin S. FRmetS.

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Solar Cycles
05 June 2018 09:34:01
I wouldn’t rule out the GFS solution and tbh how many times has the party pooper been proven right during the winter months.
Saint Snow
05 June 2018 10:46:36

 

Agreed because Spain where we get the over 30C heat source had been unsettled too long now and what ever warmth we got lately was home grown ones and often not clear skies with it.  Quite a lot of changes with the pressure pattern around Europe and UK.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

 

I'd gladly sacrifice an unsettled Spain and UK temps held 'down' into the low-20's if it meant a continuation of the "HP to the NE/E of the UK and dry, settled weather" scenario we've had through May and now into June.

A lack of plumes & very high temps are a very small price to pay for predictable and nice conditions.


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Joe Bloggs
05 June 2018 12:18:36

I think a breakdown to unsettled conditions by early next week is looking more visible amongst the NWP today. 

I’m going to make the most of this week.. just in case. 

LeedsLad123
05 June 2018 16:06:45
At least this seemingly never-ending North Sea flow will finally be cut off - be thankful for small mercies.
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Crepuscular Ray
05 June 2018 21:07:58
BBC 10 dayer showing the jet stream waking up next week and diving to our south. Looks like normal service will slowly return. At least the poor east coast will warm up and lose the dreadful haar/fret.
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Joe Bloggs
05 June 2018 21:10:49

ECM mean t+240.

Changes potentially afoot. Definitely a stronger signal today. 

 

 

 

 

TimS
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05 June 2018 21:31:13
Worst case scenario: a slow descent into a truly hellish southerly tracking jet and a washout summer. As predicted by a few of the runs this evening. See GFS P12, GEM and ECM.

Best case scenario, now that a form of breakdown is inevitable: quick breakdown, a couple of days of depressions that don’t drop much rain, then a reset with pressure building from the South West. Also shown in some runs. See GFS 12Z op and P10


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Solar Cycles
05 June 2018 21:40:18

Worst case scenario: a slow descent into a truly hellish southerly tracking jet and a washout summer. As predicted by a few of the runs this evening. See GFS P12, GEM and ECM.

Best case scenario, now that a form of breakdown is inevitable: quick breakdown, a couple of days of depressions that don’t drop much rain, then a reset with pressure building from the South West. Also shown in some runs. See GFS 12Z op and P10

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Nothing’s set in stone but if I was a betting man I’ll favour  the former, purely on the grounds of it a being  drier than average year thus far for many of us from the Midlands Northwards.

Chunky Pea
05 June 2018 21:50:23

Nothing’s set in stone but if I was a betting man I’ll favour  the former, purely on the grounds of it a being  drier than average year thus far for many of us from the Midlands Northwards.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Latest ECM monthly has a generally higher than average pressure pattern over this part of Europe for the rest of June, though with the main anticyclonic influence placed more to the SW than to the N, as in the case over the last couple of weeks. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Solar Cycles
05 June 2018 21:51:55

 

Latest ECM monthly has a generally higher than average pressure pattern over this part of Europe for the rest of June, though with the main anticyclonic influence placed more to the SW than to the N, as in the case over the last couple of weeks. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

ECM monthlies.... πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

 

Sorry CP. 😁

Chunky Pea
05 June 2018 22:02:07

ECM monthlies.... πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

 

Sorry CP. 😁

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Perhaps I could have phrased that better.. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Hungry Tiger
06 June 2018 10:06:31

The worst I've seen yet - The green is now encroaching on this country.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

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four
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06 June 2018 10:53:53

The worst I've seen yet - The green is now encroaching on this country.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html

 

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


With wind not off the North Sea it won't be 11C and drizzly here.


TimS
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06 June 2018 11:47:40
In most runs now we seem to be resuming normal modern summer service. By which I mean awful for the North and West, decent with the odd hot day for the South and East, and scorching over the near continent. Same pattern as the last 3 summers.

For the sake of variety and also in solidarity with our NW contingent I hope the blocked pattern of the last few weeks reasserts itself at some point.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
picturesareme
06 June 2018 12:46:53

In most runs now we seem to be resuming normal modern summer service. By which I mean awful for the North and West, decent with the odd hot day for the South and East, and scorching over the near continent. Same pattern as the last 3 summers.

For the sake of variety and also in solidarity with our NW contingent I hope the blocked pattern of the last few weeks reasserts itself at some point.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Your posts make me think perhaps you  would benefit from talking to a shrink. A week or 2 of unsettled weather in June is very normal, infact it's so normal it even has a name's 'June monsoon' & 'return of the westerly'. There is no need for dismal posts of poor summer when we're only 6 days into meteological summer.

Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2018 12:55:26

More and more plumes turning up at the end of the GEFS run. Looks like a very brief cooler more unsettled reset. Followed by Azores building in , with south westerlies and southerlies setting up.

 

 

 


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Hungry Tiger
06 June 2018 13:46:39

Outlook now doesn't sound too bad.

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

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TimS
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06 June 2018 14:45:25

 

Your posts make me think perhaps you  would benefit from talking to a shrink. A week or 2 of unsettled weather in June is very normal, infact it's so normal it even has a name's 'June monsoon' & 'return of the westerly'. There is no need for dismal posts of poor summer when we're only 6 days into meteological summer.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

I’m a great admirer of the oeuvre of your fellow all-lower-case contributor richardabdn and have decided to channel some of his poetic angst into my posting. It’s much more fun than just commenting on the models.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
picturesareme
07 June 2018 00:01:03

 

I’m a great admirer of the oeuvre of your fellow all-lower-case contributor richardabdn and have decided to channel some of his poetic angst into my posting. It’s much more fun than just commenting on the models.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

oh fair enough... I also enjoy reading his humouring posts 😁

Joe Bloggs
07 June 2018 07:39:32

 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_213_1.png

Are we sure we don’t prefer a light drift off the North Sea? ;-)

Hopefully the pattern change won’t be quite as dramatic as the 00z GFS. 

GezM
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07 June 2018 08:07:47

 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_213_1.png

Are we sure we don’t prefer a light drift off the North Sea? ;-)

Hopefully the pattern change won’t be quite as dramatic as the 00z GFS. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

I'm not liking the new pattern at all. Hopefully it's just a short term change but as Tim said earlier, this is looking very similar to recent summers which have generally been average at best. 


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Hungry Tiger
07 June 2018 09:42:49

Quite a strong South Westerly. I don't like the low to the north. Good ridging into the continent though.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_213_1.png

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

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LeedsLad123
07 June 2018 09:43:22

 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_213_1.png

Are we sure we don’t prefer a light drift off the North Sea? ;-)

Hopefully the pattern change won’t be quite as dramatic as the 00z GFS. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

I'd take that if it meant everywhere had crap weather rather than just us.

Depending on where that low ends up then I'd have no difficulty believing that chart would be much sunnier than what we currently have here.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Joe Bloggs
07 June 2018 10:31:45

 

I'd take that if it meant everywhere had crap weather rather than just us.

Depending on where that low ends up then I'd have no difficulty believing that chart would be much sunnier than what we currently have here.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Has it really been that bad over in your patch? I knew the east coast had been plagued with cool and cloudy weather but I thought Leeds had done ok really.

I absolutely agree that in general a SW'ly or W'ly drift would benefit east of the Pennines (a SW'ly often isn't that bad here either), but the danger of lows pushing across the country and stalling is that virtually the entire UK gets crap weather with outbreaks of heavy rain, not just the west.

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