Devonian
07 August 2020 17:09:58

Originally Posted by: TimS 


 


I'm sorry but not only is this off topic - which is supposed to be about regional climate trends here, but the irony of the argument is breathtaking: essentially like the drug dealer warning of the health effects of quitting, or an anti-vaxxer getting excited because a Covid vaccine might cause headaches.


BAU emissions would mean the earth warms 5 or more C this century, and we're all in deep deep trouble. The aerosol impact on global temperature is less than a degree at most, and the majority of that has worked its way out of the system since the 1960s. It's not even close to being a meaningful trade off.


At least we are now beyond the point where people still try to deny the existence of anthropogenic impacts on the climate. But that should mean we can have an interesting discussion about how the South and East have warmed and dried in summer while the North and West have stayed wet and dull. Otherwise this just ends up like the old climate forum (RIP) where everything no matter what the topic, descended into the same old repeating arguments.



Spot on - as usual . Highlighted bit, I still (forlornly I think) hope it will be 2-4C.


What a mess the majority of humanity is making of this wonderful planet.


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Rob K
08 August 2020 08:02:45
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/38588-the-13th-of-june-enigma/ 

It’s nothing to do with the main subject of the thread (the bizarre anomaly that 13 June has never once recorded 30C, alone in all days of summer), but the point is made that in the past the maximum temperature records seemed to be spread all over the country, whereas in the past 30-40 years they have almost without exception been in the southeast corner.

A look at the Torro list of daily maxima would seem to confirm this.
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lanky
08 August 2020 09:00:02
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/38588-the-13th-of-june-enigma/ 

It’s nothing to do with the main subject of the thread (the bizarre anomaly that 13 June has never once recorded 30C, alone in all days of summer), but the point is made that in the past the maximum temperature records seemed to be spread all over the country, whereas in the past 30-40 years they have almost without exception been in the southeast corner.

A look at the Torro list of daily maxima would seem to confirm this.


As this thread has already discussed, the SE quarter of the country has warmed considerably more than the rest. In some cases by just over 2C whereas much of the rest is between 1 and 1.5C


When records are being broken then we are at the very extreme right hand side of the Bell Curve so an extra 1C warming in the SE makes a big difference to the odds of getting the record in that part of the world


I haven't done the maths but it is about the probability of getting a value N sigmas (standard deviations) away from the mean


 


Martin
Richmond, Surrey
Crepuscular Ray
09 August 2020 15:27:14
The difference today between the favoured SE and the rest of the UK is marked. Over 30 C in the SE but cooler than average over Eastern England and Scotland. Only 17 C here and a force 5 NE wind making it feel chilly!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
09 August 2020 17:52:38

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

The difference today between the favoured SE and the rest of the UK is marked. Over 30 C in the SE but cooler than average over Eastern England and Scotland. Only 17 C here and a force 5 NE wind making it feel chilly!


All the more reason as well, for Richard from Aberdeen to be even more annoyed than normal as the local lockdown in his area which has just been imposed, means that he can't go anywhere to escape that weather in his part of the world which he often refers to as "vile" (before then, he was at leas travel to other locations such as Fife).


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
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