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Jiries
30 August 2024 05:46:25

I welcome the return in the forecast of the traditional thunderstorms-drifting-up-from -France-overnight scenario, which has been sadly absent over recent years. A pity that most of the action according to MetO will be over E Kent rather than W Sussex - but it wasn't even in the forecast a couple of days ago, so we shall see.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Same here I prefer we get warm to hot sunny weather then a thunderstorm and we was treated fairly too as the heat came last to here and finish last unlike heat spike we get last minute and finish first minute. France used to cool down a day before us cool down a day after as the storms move away. 

Saint Snow
30 August 2024 10:32:07
That bloody warm front moving north on Sunday is a proper pisser.

Had planned a last paddleboarding trip to Ullswater as the forecast was sunny with temps a reasonable 21-22c. Now the afternoon promises showers and temps pegged at a cool 19c

Anglesey looks better, but still not great.


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Crepuscular Ray
30 August 2024 15:40:12
Day 2 in The Algarve and another 30 C 🌞

No wonder everyone is cheerful down here 😎


Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Jiries
31 August 2024 07:25:53

Day 2 in The Algarve and another 30 C 🌞

No wonder everyone is cheerful down here 😎

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Will see those sunny days from once September arrive but not those temps but mid 20s and high 20's tomorrow here expected.

DEW
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01 September 2024 06:08:34
I'll leave this open for about a week for retrospective comments. Meanwhile thanks to JCS for opening an Autumn thread.

I've put my overall rating for summer in the 'thoughts and discussions' thread.


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picturesareme
01 September 2024 13:05:42

Despite few clouds I can see but unfortunately the majority of population had their promised forecast sunny and warm cancelled and no recovery now.  Can't wait for September to deliver real warm sunny weather to arrive and will possible give me highest warmest max for the year under full sun.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Looks like you predicted well Jires. First day of September and already up to 29C by 13:45.  Very good chance of hitting 30C here today.

Jiries
01 September 2024 14:19:49

Looks like you predicted well Jires. First day of September and already up to 29C by 13:45.  Very good chance of hitting 30C here today.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Yes I don’t expect today one but 7th seem the best chance for full sun and high 20s. Today a  lot cooler than last Friday which hit 24C. some people wearing light jackets as it chilly breeze and over cast.

picturesareme
01 September 2024 14:50:54

Yes I don’t expect today one but 7th seem the best chance for full sun and high 20s. Today a  lot cooler than last Friday which hit 24C. some people wearing light jackets as it chilly breeze and over cast.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

29.3C but then there was a sudden switch in wind direction & strength causing a drop of about 4C and cloud to increase. I suspect somewhere down here will still hit 30C today.

doctormog
01 September 2024 14:55:55
Max of 16°C here today so far but then again it is autumn (and has been seemingly for a while).
Crepuscular Ray
01 September 2024 15:00:51
4th day of  Portugal holiday and 4th day of 30 C and ☀️😎 Magic!.........It's 15 C back in Edinburgh 🤭
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

johncs2016
01 September 2024 15:08:23

4th day of  Portugal holiday and 4th day of 30 C and ☀️😎 Magic!.........It's 15 C back in Edinburgh 🤭

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Yes, but it's autumn now so I'm no longer bothered about that.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Jiries
01 September 2024 15:11:45

29.3C but then there was a sudden switch in wind direction & strength causing a drop of about 4C and cloud to increase. I suspect somewhere down here will still hit 30C today.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Even it get to near 30 I don’t want that bring clouds as I prefer wall to wall hot sunny days thst I always get here every year even poor summers past got them at some point.

Crepuscular Ray
01 September 2024 16:40:09
4th day of  Portugal holiday and 4th day of 30 C and ☀️😎 Magic!.........It's 15 C back in Edinburgh 🤭
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

DEW
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02 September 2024 16:59:33
Coolest UK summer since 2015

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cdd7pzdr22jo 

Includes a fair amount of Met Office data. Should help us in the south to understand why our friends in the north feel they've had a miserable summer - and vice versa.


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Matty H
03 September 2024 05:55:33

Coolest UK summer since 2015

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cdd7pzdr22jo 

Includes a fair amount of Met Office data. Should help us in the south to understand why our friends in the north feel they've had a miserable summer - and vice versa.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Despite one or two on here insisting this was another notably hot summer, I think most of us knew it wasn’t. It hasn’t been awful, and there’s been a fair bit of dry weather, but a lack of notably hot spells has been very noticeable for most compared to more recent summers 


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johncs2016
03 September 2024 06:14:52

Coolest UK summer since 2015

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cdd7pzdr22jo 

Includes a fair amount of Met Office data. Should help us in the south to understand why our friends in the north feel they've had a miserable summer - and vice versa.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

I didn't give the summer any more than 3 out of 10 in the statistics which I posted on the summer discussion thread that has now been moved from this forum into the classic threads forum.

Those Met Office statistics fully back up my reasons for doing so because in order for me to be able to say anything other than the fact that it wasn't much of a summer overall, it needs to be warmer than average in my books and that certainly wasn't the case.

That same scenario also applies to each winter as well except that for the winter, it needs to be colder than average in my books.

However, I did also notice that a number of members, especially those in the south of England marked the summer a lot higher than I did, and actually classed that as a fairly decent summer overall and I can equally fully understand their reasons for doing so.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

briggsy6
03 September 2024 08:53:56
Surprised the Met Off has called this the coolest summer since 2015 considering temps reached 35c in August. 
Location: Uxbridge
Jiries
03 September 2024 09:23:51

Surprised the Met Off has called this the coolest summer since 2015 considering temps reached 35c in August. 

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 

This time they were right it was a coolest summer as majority of population did not see this isolated 35C compare to 1995, 2003, 2006 2018 was wide spread 35 plus temperatures under proper nationwide heatwaves with sunny days. This summer is very poor one, very dull, no sunny days, no plus 30C temps only seen in Philippines for 2024 and no prolonged settled one. 0/10.

johncs2016
03 September 2024 09:36:41

Surprised the Met Off has called this the coolest summer since 2015 considering temps reached 35c in August. 

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 

Even back in 2015 though, there was still an isolated heat spike which led to the temperature briefly getting into the 30s°C in SE England.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Jiries
03 September 2024 10:05:26

Even back in 2015 though, there was still an isolated heat spike which led to the temperature briefly getting into the 30s°C in SE England.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

I completely hate those heat spikes, it very bad move even for a fun to get stupid 35C on 1st July 2015 and last month in Cambridge because you will get hit with days and days of cloudy weather which always happen before and after heat spikes.

This current heat spike is no exception as it now infected this early part of September from last month.   Hope this is very last heat spike and not to come back again future summers.   Seem very cold outside as only 20C in the conservatory but should expect to reach over 30C tomorrow with fresher air arrives.  Last over 30C was 35.5C last Friday under non-HP cell.

DEW
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03 September 2024 10:09:27

Surprised the Met Off has called this the coolest summer since 2015 considering temps reached 35c in August. 

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 

It's the average they're considering, which is reasonable, not an isolated peak  


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DEW
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03 September 2024 10:31:26
Ratings for Summer 2024 can still be posted in the 'Summer moaning and gloating' thread. Although its been moved to the 'Classic Threads' forum, it isn't actually closed.
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snowtastic
03 September 2024 13:00:17
Here in Stafford it's been pretty crap since late September, last year - Rain interrupted by showery rain, with some light rain showers, but rain later.

There was one notably cold winter's day; mid December - I cycled to Stoke via the canal path and arrived as it began to snow (A "skiers folly" snow event).

Over the winter and early spring, the local Parkrun course was on the "B" route for about 3 months due to atypical flooding. I don't know the technical terms, but it was water "coming up", i.e. the water table was so high it caused a perpetual flood on the route.

The bike and walking routes were a bog for months (much longer than usual), then the undergrowth/overgrowth went mental.

Even now, where I'd expect Cannock Chase to be "blown out", it's "dry" but not "dry, dry" and it wont take many more days of rain (like yesterday) before the perma puddles form.

Been here about 8 years and never experienced such a cacky 12 months.

This summer has rarely been "hot" in comparisons to previous years and yes, there have been a (very) few dry weeks, but these have been book-ended with daily showers or outright downpours.

In my experience, its running up there with the 18 months of Autumn that was 2012/13.

Looking at 30 day forecast (yes, I know), it looks poor.

To the South East of Stafford is a low lying area I think is called Radford Meadows.

Over the winter it floods. This last winter and spring, it became an inland sea.

It took an extraordinarily long time to drain and, it seemed, there remained a small area flooded (or at least “very boggy”) up to about four weeks ago. Again, in our experience of Stafford, this seems unprecedented.

Basically, it’s been a cack summer. Really poop.

Posters in the South East clearly have had a very different experience, jammy gits.

MRazzell
03 September 2024 13:09:04
5 / 10 here in East-Sussex, this summer.

We have had some pleasant days, but all too often these have occurred during the week when many of us are working so of no real benefit.

A lot of wind this summer. a. lot. of. wind. - I usually expect a few gusty days but the garden has been absolutely hammered.

A lot of cloud too, in fact i can scarcely remember a day this entire summer that has been 100% cloud free. Often days have either started, or ended cloudy. On many occassions i've settled in the garden, early evening, hoping to enjoy the last of the sun, or do some stargazing, only for mucky cloud to drift in and spoil the moment.

More rain than i can ever remember, too. My region was subject to some quite significant and localised rain with showers rolling in off the channel in ribbons. On numerous occassions these showers have been flowing directly over east sussex, and this isn't an isolated phenomenom, the weather has defaulted to this pattern often over the past 12months. The MetOffice figures published yesterday don't seem representative of my experiences, but they're very much national/regional averages so need to be viewed in context. The Environment Agency figures for rainfall seem far more accurate, with the LTA by summers end still around the 150% mark.

In summary its been a tolerable but forgettable summer. Wind aside the garden has benefitted from the ample rainfall and i've been largely pleased that i've not had to endure too many humid, sleepless nights, but just a couple of weekends with unbroken sun and settled weather would have been nice.

Edit - Reading Snowtastics summary above they could easily be writing about my home in the South East. I should add none of my dog walking routes dried up fully this year, which is unprecedented. Often i'd nip out in flip flops but its been almost exclusively wellies and walking boots all summer. Not sure who these South East posters are that had a better summer than me, but due to the local variations they could easily be 20miles east or west of me and have had a totally different season.


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Retron
03 September 2024 13:14:49

Basically, it’s been a cack summer. Really poop.

Posters in the South East clearly have had a very different experience, jammy gits.

Originally Posted by: snowtastic 

The latter half of the summer certainly has been "cack" and "really poop". The charts from the MetO prove it, too, the little island on which I live was sunnier than the nearby mainland (105-115% sun for summer, 110%-130% for August) and it's just typical - I hate heat, sun, and humidity and Sheppey has been a magnet for it.

Today has at least been a bit cloudier, and there was even a brief shower earlier! It's done nothing to stop the warmth, though, another effortless 25 today...

This view via my weather station is typical of the summer since the mid-July shift (note the PC stays on GMT year round):

https://ukwct.org.uk/weather/wx.jpg 

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Yes, it's autumn now but summer continues apace. Hopefully tomorrow really will only reach the 20C that's forecast... it'd be nice to sleep in somewhere that wasn't a sauna.

Here's the MetO version of the charts as reported by the BBC - larger and more of them.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-media/media-centre/weather-and-climate-news/2024/uk-experiences-coolest-summer-since-2015 


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