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Sevendust
05 June 2014 08:58:59

Away from the upcoming events, he's a brief video clip from yesterday evening. The wife and I had driven just south of Alton as he heavy showers started to get a good vantage point. Thunder started soon after and we eventually drove the short distance back to Alton around 7pm with me driving and Cheryl videoing on her Galaxy S4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tzMZU8eNM 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

LOL I love the excitement in your voice

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

I get pretty hyped up when it kicks off. We were really lucky yesterday and there was plenty of lightning and hail 

Osprey
05 June 2014 14:18:52

Away from the upcoming events, he's a brief video clip from yesterday evening. The wife and I had driven just south of Alton as he heavy showers started to get a good vantage point. Thunder started soon after and we eventually drove the short distance back to Alton around 7pm with me driving and Cheryl videoing on her Galaxy S4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tzMZU8eNM 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

LOL I love the excitement in your voice

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I get pretty hyped up when it kicks off. We were really lucky yesterday and there was plenty of lightning and hail 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Prepare the "earmuffs!" Hi decibel early warning for Saturday


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Arcus
05 June 2014 14:32:09
A lot of doubt surrounds Saturday, still too early to pin down which areas are most at risk. Good looking charts when you look at dew points (up to 20c in places), CAPE (circa 2,200 j/kg SB in central areas), LIs of -6 etc. ... but these values have been/will be changing with each run. Inhibiting factors such as claggy cloud cover/overspill from French storm systems could easily put a lid on things over some areas... Plenty more runs needed...
Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Sevendust
05 June 2014 17:13:46

A lot of doubt surrounds Saturday, still too early to pin down which areas are most at risk. Good looking charts when you look at dew points (up to 20c in places), CAPE (circa 2,200 j/kg SB in central areas), LIs of -6 etc. ... but these values have been/will be changing with each run. Inhibiting factors such as claggy cloud cover/overspill from French storm systems could easily put a lid on things over some areas... Plenty more runs needed...

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

The infamous "anvil blow-off" (copyright Bren).

My attention is more focused on Friday night tbh. Dependant on the steering winds we can only hope that the potential outbreak in France later tomorrow will be drawn our way

Essan
05 June 2014 17:34:57

Away from the upcoming events, he's a brief video clip from yesterday evening. The wife and I had driven just south of Alton as he heavy showers started to get a good vantage point. Thunder started soon after and we eventually drove the short distance back to Alton around 7pm with me driving and Cheryl videoing on her Galaxy S4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tzMZU8eNM 

Originally Posted by: Osprey 

LOL I love the excitement in your voice

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

I get pretty hyped up when it kicks off. We were really lucky yesterday and there was plenty of lightning and hail 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 



Prepare the "earmuffs!" Hi decibel early warning for Saturday

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Aye, all the howls of anguish when 99% of us miss out yet again ....


Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

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Charmhills
05 June 2014 19:32:16

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack0a.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1.gif

Thundery trouble ahead.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.

Stormchaser
05 June 2014 19:54:44

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/06/05/basis12/ukuk/prec/14060706_0512.gif

 

Okay. Euro-4 has nothing at all Friday night, and this is as intense as it gets on Saturday up to noon.

Some action then arriving from the south for the afternoon by the looks of things... but that's at odds with the notion of homegrown development that forecasters in general seem to be suggesting.

Looking at the cloud fields, broken cloud is modelled for the morning, but with almost total cloud cover by noon.

 

For all I know though, Euro-4 could be hopeless with this sort of setup 


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Sevendust
05 June 2014 21:08:04

Away from the upcoming events, he's a brief video clip from yesterday evening. The wife and I had driven just south of Alton as he heavy showers started to get a good vantage point. Thunder started soon after and we eventually drove the short distance back to Alton around 7pm with me driving and Cheryl videoing on her Galaxy S4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tzMZU8eNM 

Originally Posted by: Essan 

LOL I love the excitement in your voice

Originally Posted by: Osprey 

I get pretty hyped up when it kicks off. We were really lucky yesterday and there was plenty of lightning and hail 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 



Prepare the "earmuffs!" Hi decibel early warning for Saturday

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Aye, all the howls of anguish when 99% of us miss out yet again ....

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

nsrobins
05 June 2014 22:12:18

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/06/05/basis12/ukuk/prec/14060706_0512.gif

 

Okay. Euro-4 has nothing at all Friday night, and this is as intense as it gets on Saturday up to noon.

Some action then arriving from the south for the afternoon by the looks of things... but that's at odds with the notion of homegrown development that forecasters in general seem to be suggesting.

Looking at the cloud fields, broken cloud is modelled for the morning, but with almost total cloud cover by noon.

 

For all I know though, Euro-4 could be hopeless with this sort of setup 

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

You could be right - this is probably the first such set-up since Euro-4 was launched.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Osprey
05 June 2014 23:14:53

Away from the upcoming events, he's a brief video clip from yesterday evening. The wife and I had driven just south of Alton as he heavy showers started to get a good vantage point. Thunder started soon after and we eventually drove the short distance back to Alton around 7pm with me driving and Cheryl videoing on her Galaxy S4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3tzMZU8eNM 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

LOL I love the excitement in your voice

Originally Posted by: Essan 

I get pretty hyped up when it kicks off. We were really lucky yesterday and there was plenty of lightning and hail 

Originally Posted by: Osprey 



Prepare the "earmuffs!" Hi decibel early warning for Saturday

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Aye, all the howls of anguish when 99% of us miss out yet again ....

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Yeah!  aint it the way


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SydneyonTees
06 June 2014 01:29:24

ppppffffttttttttt standard summer stuff in Sydney

 

 

 

idj20
06 June 2014 07:12:14

Does look like we, here at Kent, could miss out on the thundery weather tomorrow going by some of the outputs, all bypassing to our west, instead just merely staying muggy, overcast and damp with some bright spells in the afternoon at this end.

I don't envy the pros when it comes to this kind of forecasting. Another one of those occasions where it boils down to radar watching come the moment. 


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nsrobins
06 June 2014 08:26:13

Yep it's a tricky one. From the best guess at theta-e and forcing I'd go for some storms to move in around midnight across C S England. Then more general thundery downpours develop from the SW early hours, moving NNE on the plume.
Saturday sees some home-grown convection behind the main area but in my location it should all be over by mid-afternoon which is fine as my barbeque is in use Sat eve.

What it won't be is a devastating calamity of tornados and killer hail.
But we all knew that, didn't we?


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Stormchaser
06 June 2014 09:51:23

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014060600/nmm-6-33-0.png?06-06

The western half of the UK is under the stable air behind the boundary, while the eastern half is under the very unstable air ahead of it.

Precipitation fields from the models suggest that the greatest precipitation will develop towards the southern end of this boundary and then progress NNE, and this appears to be due to the breaking down of a shallow stable layer in the atmosphere (an inversion, acting like a 'lid' on the surface convection), suddenly releasing the convective available potential energy (CAPE) to generate large convective storms as opposed to the scattered, relatively disorganised storms that tend to occur without an initial 'lid' in place.

 

Certainly one to watch.

 

Also, both WRF and EURO-4 now show some notable convective precipitation around midnight across Central Southern England, much as Neil proposes, here's hoping their nicely electrified 

 

http://estofex.org/

An interesting read, though nothing dramatic - but of course this only extends to 06z tomorrow 


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nsrobins
06 June 2014 10:12:01

06Z GFS develops elevated activity a few hours earlier over the W Channel moving NE across CS England from 21Z.
This is followed by a more robust nose of instability which once inhibition mixes out should generate more surface based storms during Saturday, moving up through the UK.

Home growns on Sat pm across the E Midlands for instance may be quite significant.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Sevendust
06 June 2014 10:40:47

06Z GFS develops elevated activity a few hours earlier over the W Channel moving NE across CS England from 21Z.
This is followed by a more robust nose of instability which once inhibition mixes out should generate more surface based storms during Saturday, moving up through the UK.

Home growns on Sat pm across the E Midlands for instance may be quite significant.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Duane again

Charmhills
06 June 2014 10:53:24

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_warnings.html

Updated watch for Saturday.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.

Arcus
06 June 2014 10:53:54

Whoever wrote the latest MetO warning desperately wanted it to sound like a NWS SPC warning...

"...possibly accompanied by frequent lightning... "

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=map&map=Warnings&zoom=5&lon=-3.50&lat=55.50&fcTime=1402009200


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

idot
  • idot
  • Advanced Member
06 June 2014 12:30:41
1257 going for storms moving up from France after midnight.


DeeDee
06 June 2014 13:27:51

http://www.estofex.org/

Southern W->E under level 1 with Estofex up to 06.00 Saturday


Harpenden, Herts.
idot
  • idot
  • Advanced Member
06 June 2014 13:53:29

http://www.estofex.org/

Southern W->E under level 1 with Estofex up to 06.00 Saturday

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 

 

Level 1 Esto usually indicates server thunderstorms, multiple deaths, large scale thurmonuclear war and Cliff Richard singing at wimbeldon.

 

 

So, thundery rain then!


Arcus
06 June 2014 14:22:42
Quite an upgrade on chances of overnight elevated storms on some recent model runs. Central S. England, into Wales, Midlands overnight could see some good lightning displays. These rumble on NE'wd through the early hours, then it's a question of what surface based stuff can initiate during daylight hours in the morning and afternoon in the SE/E/NE.
Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Frostbite80
06 June 2014 16:00:10
Just waiting to see these storms ignite across France on rain today.........
GIBBY
06 June 2014 16:05:58

Just waiting to see these storms ignite across France on rain today.........

Originally Posted by: Frostbite80 

They should commence somewhen this evening, most likely across the Brest Peninsula heading towards Dorset and Wiltshire area. I notice a few sferics from an isolated shower was triggered a few hours ago over the Brecons of Wales.


Martin G

Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset

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