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vince
Monday, March 3, 2014 7:33:54 AM
Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer
Sevendust
Monday, March 3, 2014 7:57:06 AM

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 

Cue Darren

UncleAlbert
Monday, March 3, 2014 8:01:07 AM

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 

 

Not so good really. Our long time friend the Canadian vortex is still doing its best to the spoil the party judging by this mornings main op output. Struggling to settle down in the medium to long term with the threat of more wind for all early next week.

 

Andy Woodcock
Monday, March 3, 2014 8:10:01 AM
No not good at all, our week end dry, mild spell is over by Saturday night according to the MetO run with cool westerly winds by Sunday.

ECM and GFS both have high pressure to our south in FI which would restrict and good weather to the SE.

The only common theme is that winter is unlikely to return in March according to current output so most areas will keep their zero lying snow record this winter.

Andy


Andy Woodcock

Penrith

Cumbria

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The Beast from the East
Monday, March 3, 2014 8:24:45 AM

Holy crap. Just when I thought it was safe to put away the Mac and Brolly, the roaring jet returns to flatten our high. The South will stay less wet but any rain, even small amounts. is causing groundwater flows to reach surface. Further flooding reported locally from last nights rain and I dread to think what will happen later on today when these showers get going

 


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Scandy 1050 MB
Monday, March 3, 2014 8:39:33 AM

Holy crap. Just when I thought it was safe to put away the Mac and Brolly, the roaring jet returns to flatten our high. The South will stay less wet but any rain, even small amounts. is causing groundwater flows to reach surface. Further flooding reported locally from last nights rain and I dread to think what will happen later on today when these showers get going

 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

You couldn't make it up - Azores high is now becoming like the phantom easterly - many shown but nearer the time it gets pushed back to further into FI! So much for the spring like weather, even down in the SE looking precarious after Saturday, FI it has another go Azores high wise but poor runs this morning if early spring warmth and dry weather you are after compared to the last few days of runs.

GFS ensemble tells the story - you could have picked this from any day in the winter and it looks the same temperature wise, granted the rainfall isn't as much but even that has picked up from recent runs:

 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

 

 

soperman
Monday, March 3, 2014 9:01:24 AM

No not good at all, our week end dry, mild spell is over by Saturday night according to the MetO run with cool westerly winds by Sunday.

ECM and GFS both have high pressure to our south in FI which would restrict and good weather to the SE.

The only common theme is that winter is unlikely to return in March according to current output so most areas will keep their zero lying snow record this winter.

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

Hi Andy

Or in my case zero falling snow record - not a single flake and just 1 or 2 frosts!! Simply amazing


Happily living by the sea in Brixham......but sad to leave the snowy Chiltern Hills after 35 years!
Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, March 3, 2014 9:05:40 AM
The settled spell not looking so settled at the moment.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1441.html 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Crepuscular Ray
Monday, March 3, 2014 9:15:52 AM
I'm afraid the milder settled spell was never going to affect Scotland, although to be fair the Lothians and Fife can too quite well in a SW with a slight Foehn effect. What I will be dreading to see throughout Spring and early Summer in the models is a NE, E or even SE flow up here!
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Stormchaser
Monday, March 3, 2014 9:16:44 AM

Uh-oh.

The small trough next week that was being modelled to drop south and prop up a strong ridge building over the top of it is now suddenly being taken NE instead.

That means the Atlantic gets some support instead of the high pressure ridge.

A real shame if this change sticks - still generally drier in the south but still with frontal systems moving through preventing a run of reliably decent weather.

 

...but relax - it's only early March! 


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Charmhills
Monday, March 3, 2014 10:03:17 AM

Models looking somewhat dodgy this morning with our ridge coming under attack from the mighty Atlantic.

Things are never straight forwards in this country are they.


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The Beast from the East
Monday, March 3, 2014 12:12:41 PM

06z continues the poor output this morning. Constant battle with the Azores and Atlantic. Most of the rain in northern areas


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Gooner
Monday, March 3, 2014 1:20:24 PM

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 

Look again, the warm has always been a a couple of days wonder Vinnie


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Gavin P
Monday, March 3, 2014 1:34:08 PM

Hi all,

Here's the March month ahead forecast video;

http://www.gavsweathervids.com

Quite a trivcy month to pin down actually.


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Ally Pally Snowman
Monday, March 3, 2014 5:00:23 PM
An improvement from the 12s GFS is settled pretty much all the way through.

The ukmo also looks very Spring like.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.html 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.html 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Steam Fog
Monday, March 3, 2014 6:15:28 PM
Looks settled and relatively mild for the time if year in the south.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 

Slightly less settled, but still milder than normal in the north.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png 

LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
Monday, March 3, 2014 7:16:53 PM
All of GFS, ECMWF and All of UKMO 12z run Output have 9days at least of Most of time Fine Mild Settled dry and Sunny wow Spring type weather forecast for many in South SW and N Central to E and SE Parts of UK.

But Some days the Western and Northern to Central parts see cool to colder weather with rain and showers and breezy Low Pressure on just some parts of the same period.


Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.

Stormchaser
Monday, March 3, 2014 9:12:40 PM

So a bit of a recovery this evening as the energy in the Atlantic digs a bit further south before hiking NE... that at least promotes more of a ridge both ahead and behind it, saving us from a renewed Atlantic train - but it does rely on a bit of luck here and there.

ECM seems to have decided that now its spring, the day 9-10 teases must follow a theme of high pressure and 10*C uppers near to or over the UK, as opposed to biting easterlies 


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Hungry Tiger
Monday, March 3, 2014 11:15:52 PM

Superb stuff from the ECM tonight.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1201.html
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html

Getting toasty by day 10!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

That lots nice - bring it on.


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UncleAlbert
Monday, March 3, 2014 11:51:20 PM
After the major wobble by the big 3 models this morning everything seems hunky dory again. Strange how they have all swung in unison today. But anyway with the 1800 gfs carrying on with the midday optimism.... and looking pretty dry and hopefully sunny and warmish by day for the most part right out to the remotely reliable who is complaining?
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:03:29 AM
Time to look forward to Tomorrow's North Atlantic and Europe Model Forecasts- UK looks set for a dry spell and if it brings warm sunny spells then roll it in.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.

nsrobins
Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:52:40 AM

After the major wobble by the big 3 models this morning everything seems hunky dory again. Strange how they have all swung in unison today. But anyway with the 1800 gfs carrying on with the midday optimism.... and looking pretty dry and hopefully sunny and warmish by day for the most part right out to the remotely reliable who is complaining?

Originally Posted by: UncleAlbert 

I'm certainly not. I dsmissed any possibility of a winter here some weeks ago and with the daffs out, the early blossom in flower and birds singing away in the mornings, bring on the sun and more especially good riddance to the rain I say.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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KevBrads1
Tuesday, March 4, 2014 6:20:14 AM

12C toasty?

If you want to know what that set-up may bring look at this site and it has London at 12C for that day

http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/London/long.html 


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Retron
Tuesday, March 4, 2014 6:24:40 AM



12C toasty?

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

AllyPallySnowman over-exaggerates wamth on charts for whatever reason. See this link earlier in the thread where he was going on about 20C being possible from a similar chart!

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&m=585863#post585863

As you say, the ECMWF chart isn't exactly "toasty". Reading has a high of 13C on that day according to the ECM ensembles, with the median being 11C (edited as I was looking at the 9th rather than day 10 initially).

 


Leysdown, north Kent

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