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Jonesy
01 June 2012 13:39:35

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Medway Towns (Kent)

The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !

SEMerc
01 June 2012 13:46:39

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Reports indicate he'll be having a medical in the next day or so - maybe even today. He could be a Spurs player by Monday.

And a class signing he'll prove to be.

Jonesy
01 June 2012 13:52:06

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Reports indicate he'll be having a medical in the next day or so - maybe even today. He could be a Spurs player by Monday.

And a class signing he'll prove to be.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Whilst in London that would make sense ...Yes he a good player

Medway Towns (Kent)

The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !

SEMerc
01 June 2012 14:07:36

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Reports indicate he'll be having a medical in the next day or so - maybe even today. He could be a Spurs player by Monday.

And a class signing he'll prove to be.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Whilst in London that would make sense ...Yes he a good player

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Even more likely now as Spurs have just released Ledley King.

Jonesy
01 June 2012 14:27:42

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Reports indicate he'll be having a medical in the next day or so - maybe even today. He could be a Spurs player by Monday.

And a class signing he'll prove to be.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Whilst in London that would make sense ...Yes he a good player

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Even more likely now as Spurs have just released Ledley King.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Did he refuse the Pay-as-you-Play deal or did they just want him off the books completely? Shame, such a talent but always Injured !

Medway Towns (Kent)

The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !

SEMerc
01 June 2012 14:32:25

I don't even know who else is in England's group, apart from the French.

As for Henderson, the fact he's there is good on one level because it means 'Fat F[censored]' isn't.

Woy has missed a golden opportunity to rid this nation of the old guard once and for all. Thankfully, they're dropping like flies anyway.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Yeah because we was so good last Saturday against Denmark wasn't we  It's fine getting rid of the Old Guard if you can replace them, However we don't have the strength and depth to replace them and when you get someone like Jordan Henderson as a next best then we really are in trouble.

Shame the "tank" Huddlestone aint fit

 When all the young guard get in I'm sure the fickle plastic fans will have a new target boo boy. That's how sad and f**ked up a Nation we are ( London Riots showed that )

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I'm glad he's not. There's a big campaign coming up next season. Euro 2012 is a distraction.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Very true and that was the reason I was hoping " The Old Guard" Wouldn't get called up/selected for England I.E JT & Frank.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I might be tempted to watch England-Belgium tomorrow night, I'll admit. But only if Vertonghen is on the team sheet.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Are you getting him? I heard there is a big difference in price negotiations.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Reports indicate he'll be having a medical in the next day or so - maybe even today. He could be a Spurs player by Monday.

And a class signing he'll prove to be.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Whilst in London that would make sense ...Yes he a good player

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

Even more likely now as Spurs have just released Ledley King.

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Did he refuse the Pay-as-you-Play deal or did they just want him off the books completely? Shame, such a talent but always Injured !

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I think they'll find him a coaching job inside the club. He's still in talks about that.

His knees just packed up.

Jonesy
01 June 2012 14:51:08

Ok take your Chelsea haters hat off for a second ....

Did you find the Roy Hodgson comment on Lampards Injury strange?.....

"All muscle tears can be close but there are very few that clear up in less than two weeks. There was no chance I could take a risk again with Frank because there could have been the possibility he could not have played in the first two games and possibly the third"

Now that's no difference to Rooney being out for 2 LOL

I bet if Parker wasn't an Injury doubt also and Shrek not suspended he may of taken a chance on Frank.

 

Medway Towns (Kent)

The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !

Gandalf The White
01 June 2012 15:36:42


There is a 'difference between variability of climate and extreme weather events' only if your interpretation of the word "event" means a short term happening, such as a storm. In the context of climate, a season (summer, winter etc) or a series of seasons can be an 'event'. Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.                                                                                               In the quote below -
The main goal is the analysis of trends or changes of high frequent interannual and interseasonal variability. In other words, it is features like extremely hot summers, very cold winters, excessively dry or wet seasons which the study aims at.

                             ...... your season (seasonal) or series of seasons can mean 'event'. And this is how I and no doubt, Four, interpreted/used the word.

I have done a little research on the word 'event' and it does seem to be a difficult word in terms of duration. But there is no doubt that 'events' can be of long duration.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

Thanks for acknowledging your error..... not.

Maybe we need to agree the definition of certain words, whether it be 'event' or 'frequent' (verb)....

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season. I do appreciate you are trying desperately to underpin your position, but your entire edifice has a non-existent foundation if you have to try to justify 'event' like this.

An extreme weather event does not in any normal conversational sense cover seasonal variability - which, once again lest you have forgotten, is what the paper was about.  Repeat: seasonal climate variability not extreme weather events.

The final part of your post highlighted in bold is exactly right - which means we are not talking about weather events.

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130 metres ASL

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SEMerc
01 June 2012 17:02:15

Ok take your Chelsea haters hat off for a second ....

Did you find the Roy Hodgson comment on Lampards Injury strange?.....

"All muscle tears can be close but there are very few that clear up in less than two weeks. There was no chance I could take a risk again with Frank because there could have been the possibility he could not have played in the first two games and possibly the third"

Now that's no difference to Rooney being out for 2 LOL

I bet if Parker wasn't an Injury doubt also and Shrek not suspended he may of taken a chance on Frank.

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

You could well be right. I'm not entirely sure how Parker is. It's an injury he's been carrying for a while.

Solar Cycles
01 June 2012 17:20:11


There is a 'difference between variability of climate and extreme weather events' only if your interpretation of the word "event" means a short term happening, such as a storm. In the context of climate, a season (summer, winter etc) or a series of seasons can be an 'event'. Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.                                                                                               In the quote below -
The main goal is the analysis of trends or changes of high frequent interannual and interseasonal variability. In other words, it is features like extremely hot summers, very cold winters, excessively dry or wet seasons which the study aims at.

                             ...... your season (seasonal) or series of seasons can mean 'event'. And this is how I and no doubt, Four, interpreted/used the word.

I have done a little research on the word 'event' and it does seem to be a difficult word in terms of duration. But there is no doubt that 'events' can be of long duration.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Thanks for acknowledging your error..... not.

Maybe we need to agree the definition of certain words, whether it be 'event' or 'frequent' (verb)....

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season. I do appreciate you are trying desperately to underpin your position, but your entire edifice has a non-existent foundation if you have to try to justify 'event' like this.

An extreme weather event does not in any normal conversational sense cover seasonal variability - which, once again lest you have forgotten, is what the paper was about.  Repeat: seasonal climate variability not extreme weather events.

The final part of your post highlighted in bold is exactly right - which means we are not talking about weather events.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

Too be frank, it's absolute codswallop to suggest that extreme weather event are now more frequent than any other period in the last whatever years. History is littered with past events, not just one off's but decades and centuries of extreme climatic events. Try enforcing your propagnda on the gullible and ideological greenies, it works a treat with them I've heard. 

Gandalf The White
01 June 2012 18:35:04

Too be frank, it's absolute codswallop to suggest that extreme weather event are now more frequent than any other period in the last whatever years. History is littered with past events, not just one off's but decades and centuries of extreme climatic events. Try enforcing your propagnda on the gullible and ideological greenies, it works a treat with them I've heard. 

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

 

Hi SC, Polarwind and I were debating the paper to which Four referred, which was about investigating climate variability - rather than weather events.  At no stage have we got into a debate about any alleged increase in severe weather events, although there is some evidence that there has been an increase - contrary to your comment.

Do you have an informed position on this or are you just approaching this in your usual constructive way?

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polarwind
02 June 2012 07:12:44

Too be frank, it's absolute codswallop to suggest that extreme weather event are now more frequent than any other period in the last whatever years. History is littered with past events, not just one off's but decades and centuries of extreme climatic events. Try enforcing your propagnda on the gullible and ideological greenies, it works a treat with them I've heard. 

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

 

Hi SC, Polarwind and I were debating the paper to which Four referred, which was about investigating climate variability - rather than weather events.  At no stage have we got into a debate about any alleged increase in severe weather events, although there is some evidence that there has been an increase - contrary to your comment.

Do you have an informed position on this or are you just approaching this in your usual constructive way?

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Yes - and the 'seasons' were translated as events. And you are unable to accept that 'events' can last for long periods of time. But you are wrong.

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

polarwind
02 June 2012 07:25:44


There is a 'difference between variability of climate and extreme weather events' only if your interpretation of the word "event" means a short term happening, such as a storm. In the context of climate, a season (summer, winter etc) or a series of seasons can be an 'event'. Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.                                                                                               In the quote below -
The main goal is the analysis of trends or changes of high frequent interannual and interseasonal variability. In other words, it is features like extremely hot summers, very cold winters, excessively dry or wet seasons which the study aims at.

                             ...... your season (seasonal) or series of seasons can mean 'event'. And this is how I and no doubt, Four, interpreted/used the word.

I have done a little research on the word 'event' and it does seem to be a difficult word in terms of duration. But there is no doubt that 'events' can be of long duration.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Thanks for acknowledging your error..... not.

Maybe we need to agree the definition of certain words, whether it be 'event' or 'frequent' (verb)....

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season. I do appreciate you are trying desperately to underpin your position, but your entire edifice has a non-existent foundation if you have to try to justify 'event' like this.

An extreme weather event does not in any normal conversational sense cover seasonal variability - which, once again lest you have forgotten, is what the paper was about.  Repeat: seasonal climate variability not extreme weather events.

The final part of your post highlighted in bold is exactly right - which means we are not talking about weather events.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

There is no error. However, one step at a time - you said

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season.

Did you not read what I said? -

Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.

If an extinction event can last several million years, an entire season is but a blink of the eye and also, can be referred to as an 'event'.      

The only problem seems to be your understanding, Gandalf.

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)

"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat

Dave,Derby

Gandalf The White
02 June 2012 07:47:45


There is a 'difference between variability of climate and extreme weather events' only if your interpretation of the word "event" means a short term happening, such as a storm. In the context of climate, a season (summer, winter etc) or a series of seasons can be an 'event'. Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.                                                                                               In the quote below -
The main goal is the analysis of trends or changes of high frequent interannual and interseasonal variability. In other words, it is features like extremely hot summers, very cold winters, excessively dry or wet seasons which the study aims at.

                             ...... your season (seasonal) or series of seasons can mean 'event'. And this is how I and no doubt, Four, interpreted/used the word.

I have done a little research on the word 'event' and it does seem to be a difficult word in terms of duration. But there is no doubt that 'events' can be of long duration.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

Thanks for acknowledging your error..... not.

Maybe we need to agree the definition of certain words, whether it be 'event' or 'frequent' (verb)....

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season. I do appreciate you are trying desperately to underpin your position, but your entire edifice has a non-existent foundation if you have to try to justify 'event' like this.

An extreme weather event does not in any normal conversational sense cover seasonal variability - which, once again lest you have forgotten, is what the paper was about.  Repeat: seasonal climate variability not extreme weather events.

The final part of your post highlighted in bold is exactly right - which means we are not talking about weather events.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

There is no error. However, one step at a time - you said

I think you are really going to struggle to stretch the meaning of 'extreme weather event' to encompass an entire season.

Did you not read what I said? -

Think of an 'extinction event' - this could be as long as several million years.

If an extinction event can last several million years, an entire season is but a blink of the eye and also, can be referred to as an 'event'.      

The only problem seems to be your understanding, Gandalf.

Originally Posted by: polarwind 

No, the only problem here is your inability to accept that your attempt to defend Four's unhelpful comment about that paper was wrong.

I accept an 'event' can cover a long period - that's not the issue, despite your attempt to move the argument to help your position. Four's comment was about "WEATHER events". Not even you are going to win an argument that says these can stretch over weeks or months.

Any chance you might accept you've overplayed your hand here?

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Gooner
02 June 2012 11:41:44

Ok take your Chelsea haters hat off for a second ....

Did you find the Roy Hodgson comment on Lampards Injury strange?.....

"All muscle tears can be close but there are very few that clear up in less than two weeks. There was no chance I could take a risk again with Frank because there could have been the possibility he could not have played in the first two games and possibly the third"

Now that's no difference to Rooney being out for 2 LOL

I bet if Parker wasn't an Injury doubt also and Shrek not suspended he may of taken a chance on Frank.

 

Originally Posted by: Jonesy 

Is a bit different to Rooney though, at least he can train 100% whereas a Lampard trying to recovery from an injury is a different story

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Matty H
02 June 2012 16:02:07
A starting place for Oxtail-Chambermaid against Belgium. One of not very many exciting English prospects.
Yate, Nr Bristol

TBFTEIARBSC

Romfordman
02 June 2012 16:43:36

well 27 minutes played and england look quite ordinary..

what else can I say...

Richard

35m asl

No matter who you vote for the government always gets in

SEMerc
02 June 2012 17:05:37

After 45 mins:

Fellaini - best player on the pitch

Hazard- Technically gifted and showing why clubs have been after him

Vertonghen - May as well have taken his deckchair out with him; he's had that little to do.

Who is playing on the right for England?

 

England 1-0 up. Like their manager, dull as ditchwater.

SEMerc
02 June 2012 18:11:04

After 90 mins.

England 1-0 up. Dull as ditchwater.

Matty H
02 June 2012 19:20:42
That was garbage. England are garbage. I can see some real hammerings in the Euro's.
Yate, Nr Bristol

TBFTEIARBSC

nsrobins
02 June 2012 20:00:38

That was garbage. England are garbage. I can see some real hammerings in the Euro's.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Well it wasn't that bad. Solid defensively which is a positive.

The trial proper begins in 8 days. Will it be the death penalty?

Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Ally Pally Snowman
02 June 2012 20:04:53

 

Not great from England but we are difficult to beat and that is the best we can hope for in the Euro's. We dont keep the ball well enough to win tournaments and we haven't for many years if ever. But the Greeks won 2004 by being difficult to beat and England can do the same if they get abit/lot of luck.

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Matty H
02 June 2012 20:12:20

 

Not great from England but we are difficult to beat and that is the best we can hope for in the Euro's. We dont keep the ball well enough to win tournaments and we haven't for many years if ever. But the Greeks won 2004 by being difficult to beat and England can do the same if they get abit/lot of luck.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

It's not just that we don't keep the ball well enough. We don't keep the ball at all. And passing? Dire.

Yate, Nr Bristol

TBFTEIARBSC

Romfordman
02 June 2012 20:12:50

 

Not great from England but we are difficult to beat and that is the best we can hope for in the Euro's. We dont keep the ball well enough to win tournaments and we haven't for many years if ever. But the Greeks won 2004 by being difficult to beat and England can do the same if they get abit/lot of luck.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

The Greeks winning was a surprise , as I recall, so if they can out of nowhere, why can't we.

That statement seems so unlikely

Richard

35m asl

No matter who you vote for the government always gets in

Ally Pally Snowman
02 June 2012 20:24:45

 

Not great from England but we are difficult to beat and that is the best we can hope for in the Euro's. We dont keep the ball well enough to win tournaments and we haven't for many years if ever. But the Greeks won 2004 by being difficult to beat and England can do the same if they get abit/lot of luck.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

It's not just that we don't keep the ball well enough. We don't keep the ball at all. And passing? Dire.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

 

I agree it was poor today but we did beat Belgium who are probably on a par with Sweden and Ukraine. We don't keep the ball or pass well but we do defend well and we do have some quality on the counter attack.

I think we will lose to France but beat the Swedes and Ukraine. That would mean we would probably play Spain in the Quarters and almost certain defeat but we did just beat them in a friendly so you never know.

We are not going to out possess or pass any team at the Euros even Sweden. But if we play to our strengths which is defence and getting teams on the counter attack then we have an outside chance.

 

 

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