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Ally Pally Snowman
03 January 2026 16:42:16

Strong Scandi High on the ICON op run blues not quite in UK but decent potential 

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

GFS 12z also looking like it might get a easterly in day 10.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Retron
03 January 2026 17:13:34

GFS 12z also looking like it might get a easterly in day 10.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

The MetO 168 also shows a nice high over Scandinavia - tantalising, and as with GFS it's doing a good job repelling Atlantic lows. 

Having missed out on the Christmas snow (lucky old France and Jersey), having missed out on snow so far from this NW'ly spell and - by the looks of things as they stand right now - missing out on snow from the breakdown next week, an easterly would be our best chance of seeing snow down here. We've not had a midwinter easterly in ages, so it'd be nice to buck the trend!


Leysdown, north Kent
Hippydave
03 January 2026 17:14:15
'Interesting' continues to be a decent word for the mid term at present, although 'messy' as Michael said would also work well.

The Scandi HP signal is nicely present on the runs so far and GEM looks to be trying too. Outside of that, chilly air, LPs, rain, sleet or snow almost anywhere but more likely the further north you are and/or on higher ground. 

Just to cherry pick one chart, I did like the UKMO T168 - LP stalling to the east, cold air pushing towards the UK and the rain band turning to snow and pushing back west as it does so. Very old school! (UKMO also still has a bit of light snow IMBY overnight tomorrow in to Monday, so clearly it's getting things correct throughout 😂).

All very much 'as you were' so far albeit with a stronger Scandi HP signal, although a) it's FI and b) it would need the jet to cooperate to avoid it sinking and getting in the way by diverting LPs NE and allowing much milder air to get dragged up. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
03 January 2026 17:20:45

The MetO 168 also shows a nice high over Scandinavia - tantalising, and as with GFS it's doing a good job repelling Atlantic lows. 

Having missed out on the Christmas snow (lucky old France and Jersey), having missed out on snow so far from this NW'ly spell and - by the looks of things as they stand right now - missing out on snow from the breakdown next week, an easterly would be our best chance of seeing snow down here. We've not had a midwinter easterly in ages, so it'd be nice to buck the trend!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Yes chart of the day goes to the UKMO 168h 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ukmhd&var=2&run=12&time=168&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref 


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Rob K
03 January 2026 17:21:20
GEFS mean is a good couple of degrees milder for the south at T192 compared to the 6Z sadly. 
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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BJBlake
03 January 2026 17:29:37

I'm not convinced it will happen any time soon in the S.E. Looking at the short term fax charts. There has become a big NW component in the flow with all of the disturbances that could affect the S.E running along the coast out into the N.Sea. So Newcastle, East Lincs and East Norfolk are doing well at the moment and if it drifts inland a bit more Mr.Blake in the Brecks and Retron might start getting interested. If we could get it back to a straight northerly as per the earlier charts then it would be looking good for everybody. 😀 How's Scotland doing - obviously they are doing well but looks like showers are a bit patchy now?

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Well we had dandruff snow here today IMBY, it was below zero, beautiful fluffy flakes and it settled of course, but left the ground flecked with flakes - just as dandruff would appear on a black suit. Nice but not the real deal. Having said that, cars travelling from East Norfolk had quite a covering on them, and the showers over at Stalham - (well All points between Sheringham and Lowestoft) got a plastering today. Lovely weather for walking the dogs though. Crunchy and very clean paws!!


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
ballamar
03 January 2026 17:50:12

GEFS mean is a good couple of degrees milder for the south at T192 compared to the 6Z sadly. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Which pretty much sums up the consistency of the mean, a flip in 2 degrees in 6 hours shows how much it can be relied upon.

Ally Pally Snowman
03 January 2026 17:53:50

Which pretty much sums up the consistency of the mean, a flip in 2 degrees in 6 hours shows how much it can be relied upon.

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

 GFS is cannon fodder model. 

AIFS also had a mare for this spell produced 4 or 5 cold snowy runs only to drop them. Now it's the most mild. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Heavy Weather 2013
03 January 2026 17:54:52

Which pretty much sums up the consistency of the mean, a flip in 2 degrees in 6 hours shows how much it can be relied upon.

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

It’s crazy as the London ensembles even for the next few days has a spread of almost 8 degrees. I think next week really is all to play for when we have so much spread so early on.


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Retron
03 January 2026 17:56:44
Meteologix' presentation is still crummy, but it looks like a washout down here in the mid-term - rain, rain and yet more rain. Further north, say northern England northwards, there's much more in the way of snow. 

Into the longer term (i.e. beyond 192) it looks like a MetO-style standoff between a Scandinavian High and the Azores High, with lows being propelled - and shredded, for want of a better term - over or close to the UK. 

EDIT: That's the 12z ECM, which is only out to T+270 at the time of posting!

Second EDIT: Looks like the Scandinavian High eventually wins, with easterlies or ENE'lies across the UK by 336. I'll not hold my breath, but I *will* say it's an interesting trend and fits well with the other models showing a similar building of pressure to our NE.

https://meteologix.com/uk/model-charts/euro/europe/sea-level-pressure/20260117-1200z.html 

Third EDIT: Nope, it only wins for a whole day - before the Azores High butts in again. Ah well, not like the 336+ charts will be anything like that come the time!


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
03 January 2026 20:11:39
The outlook looks very snowy for me, and not just in the N of Scotland. My gut tells me that these lows will be further south than forecast, and uppers/dewpoints will trend colder. I expect multiple disruptive widespread snow events for some parts of the UK. 
25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

fullybhoy
03 January 2026 20:50:00

The outlook looks very snowy for me, and not just in the N of Scotland. My gut tells me that these lows will be further south than forecast, and uppers/dewpoints will trend colder. I expect multiple disruptive widespread snow events for some parts of the UK. 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Go on give us one of your percentage maps you used to do 😅


Alan

Glasgow 165m/asl

Rob K
03 January 2026 22:42:21
18Z GFS takes the snow risk further north. But I have to say I am not convinced by these dartboard lows, they never seem to come off in reality so I think the output is pretty suspect.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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DEW
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03 January 2026 22:44:58

https://www.severe-weather.eu/global-weather/new-stratospheric-warming-january-2026-polar-vortex-disruption-cold-united-states-canada-europe-fa/

Of interest to some in here 😉 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Pages fill fast these days, in terms of posts. See #807 yesterday.


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picturesareme
03 January 2026 22:53:43

Pages fill fast these days, in terms of posts. See #807 yesterday.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Sorry but i don't see the relevance - it's Retron talking about the breakdown and possibilities of front edge snow.

CField
03 January 2026 22:57:43

18Z GFS takes the snow risk further north. But I have to say I am not convinced by these dartboard lows, they never seem to come off in reality so I think the output is pretty suspect.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Pretty something else ...


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Foot of level snow severe drifting

Next day max temp -4 degrees Celsius

fairweather
04 January 2026 00:27:17
Still not seeing the snowy charts for down here. It looks the same as ever with a few routine frosty nights and cold days and little if anything in the way of snow. I can see the interest further north but can see nothing particularly unusual for here.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Retron
04 January 2026 05:51:53
The 0z ECM has a very marginal event across the southern half of the UK - rain turning to sleet and snow, leaving a covering for many, on Friday.

https://meteologix.com/uk/model-charts/euro/europe/snow-depth/20260109-0900z.html 

All academic at this range, especially given the marginality!


Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
04 January 2026 05:58:54

The 0z ECM has a very marginal event across the southern half of the UK - rain turning to sleet and snow, leaving a covering for many, on Friday.

https://meteologix.com/uk/model-charts/euro/europe/snow-depth/20260109-0900z.html 

All academic at this range, especially given the marginality!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

If possible this unwelcome Low get push further south? as I am not entirely interested with it all.  I am after direct snow events one for tonight and Tuesday night to Wednesday.

Retron
04 January 2026 06:50:49
Have to say it's one of the most impressive climb-downs by the GEFS I've ever seen - in the space of just 18 hours, we've gone from an 850 London ensemble mean of -5C at noon on the 11th to +2C at noon on the 0z output.

https://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?x=&y=&run=6&ville=Londres&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&runpara=0&ext=1&type=0 


Leysdown, north Kent
BJBlake
04 January 2026 07:50:32

Have to say it's one of the most impressive climb-downs by the GEFS I've ever seen - in the space of just 18 hours, we've gone from an 850 London ensemble mean of -5C at noon on the 11th to +2C at noon on the 0z output.

https://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?x=&y=&run=6&ville=Londres&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&runpara=0&ext=1&type=0 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

 But is it right? There is no cross model agreement still. The UKMO, ECM & GEM show a different solution to the GFS. It seems to be all about the respective anticipation of Jet stream strength. The passage of the low on the GfS is much more west to east, and returns to cool zonality much faster than the other models- which see a more amplified jet and a passage of the low NW to SE. The fat lady is by no means singing just yet!! 


Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
Retron
04 January 2026 07:55:59

But is it right? There is no cross model agreement still. The UKMO, ECM & GEM show a different solution to the GFS. It seems to be all about the respective anticipation of Jet stream strength. The passage of the low on the GfS is much more west to east, and returns to cool zonality much faster than the other models- which see a more amplified jet and a passage of the low NW to SE. The fat lady is by no means singing just yet!! 

Originally Posted by: BJBlake 

Down here the fat lady has not only finished singing, she's caught a taxi home and is walking up the path to her front door. 

The ECM EPS yesterday had a median 7 here on the 11th, followed by median 9s over the next few days. Could both suites be wrong? Well, yes, they could - but I strongly suspect they won't be.

The interest continues further north, of course!


Leysdown, north Kent
ballamar
04 January 2026 09:03:18
Here in the south at least all the unused grit and salt will be washed away with copious rainfall, the next hope is the warming in the Strat. Might bring chances for cold in Feb
Rob K
04 January 2026 09:05:50
There’s not really any disguising the fact that the charts have gone very badly wrong for the southern half of the country at least. I’m still not buying the GFS dartboard crossing the country but looking across the output it seems that “all roads lead to mild”, it’s just a question of how unpleasant the transition will be!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

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