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Brian Gaze
05 December 2025 17:56:19
Today started cold, calm and frosty, with patches of fog in the Bulbourne Valley. As the day went on, cloud built and the wind strengthened. By around 5pm it was hammering down with rain and the wind was howling around the house. To be honest, in purely weather terms it was a very interesting day because of the huge contrasts. 

What do you think makes an interesting weather day? Is it only snow or heat for example, or is it a day like today?


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Retron
05 December 2025 18:16:48

What do you think makes an interesting weather day? Is it only snow or heat for example, or is it a day like today?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Today would count as interesting, I guess, as even here it started off clear, calm and frosty, but it's now blowing a hoolie and there's some torrential rain not far away. (GFS has 55mph gusts on the way, MetO has 47, both unusually from the SSE). 

The most interesting days of all though to me are those things which are rare. So today wouldn't count - we get quite a few frosts per year, even in these warmed times, and strong winds (and indeed rain) are commonplace from October to say March. 

So what counts as rare? Snow is the obvious one, especially snow that settles and doubly so powder snow, with its attendant icicles and drifts. Ice days are also rare here, even moreso than days with snow on the ground.  Thunder is uncommon, and thunder with hail is rare. Snow with thunder is pretty much the holy grail!

There are other days which are interesting too: especially thick fog, for example (like the time there was that massive pileup on the Sheppey Crossing, I've never seen such thick fog before or since), and of course extremes - be it the -14.8 recorded here in 2018, or the 39 recorded four and a bit years later. Even days with silly amounts of rain are interesting, and I guess severe gales are too - albeit that's my least favourite type of weather, and all these years on I still have PTSD from the Great Storm of 1987! 


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JOHN NI
05 December 2025 20:04:36
Something which hardly ever happens nowadays is a midday fog out. Used to happen in still anticyclonic conditions many years ago in the deep winter period - say mid November to late January....you would get a clear frosty/sunny start then a fog out which sometimes lasted for about 4 days afterwards.  We just don't seem to get those synoptic set ups nowadays. 
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05 December 2025 22:02:53
An interesting weather day is best defined by hindsight: a day for which you remember what you were doing and on what date (at least to the nearest month) in some activity affected by the weather.
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ballamar
05 December 2025 22:54:01
Something unexpected which rarely happens s forecasts improve.

The snow that was supposed to turn to rain but never did

A storm that seemed to come out of nowhere.

But today was definitely interesting. 

Saint Snow
06 December 2025 00:39:44

Today would count as interesting, I guess, as even here it started off clear, calm and frosty, but it's now blowing a hoolie and there's some torrential rain not far away. (GFS has 55mph gusts on the way, MetO has 47, both unusually from the SSE). 

The most interesting days of all though to me are those things which are rare. So today wouldn't count - we get quite a few frosts per year, even in these warmed times, and strong winds (and indeed rain) are commonplace from October to say March. 

So what counts as rare? Snow is the obvious one, especially snow that settles and doubly so powder snow, with its attendant icicles and drifts. Ice days are also rare here, even moreso than days with snow on the ground.  Thunder is uncommon, and thunder with hail is rare. Snow with thunder is pretty much the holy grail!

There are other days which are interesting too: especially thick fog, for example (like the time there was that massive pileup on the Sheppey Crossing, I've never seen such thick fog before or since), and of course extremes - be it the -14.8 recorded here in 2018, or the 39 recorded four and a bit years later. Even days with silly amounts of rain are interesting, and I guess severe gales are too - albeit that's my least favourite type of weather, and all these years on I still have PTSD from the Great Storm of 1987! 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

I think extremes generally are interesting.

Particularly ones that knock people out of their normal routines. Or are really rare.

Two examples of the latter that spring to mind are:

1) Seeing freezing fog particles suspended in the air during a really cold night within that December 2010 spell. We'd been out somewhere and only got back 10'ish. There waswhat I'd describe as a thick mist and the car had been showing -10c. When I got out, the drive was lit by Xmas lights (always 'warm white' 🙂). It was really still, and there was 'glitter' everywhere, hanging in the air. I'd heard of diamond dust* and wondered if it was this, but when I looked that up, I realised it was just frozen dog/mist particles.

* I always want to say 'angel dust' but that's a very different thing!

2) During one cold spell, I left home for work one morning. Has had to de-ice the car but it wasn't a thick frost. Halfway to Manchester, the M62 goes across countryside; Chat Moss. Here, there was suddenly a really thick rime on everything. The trees and bushes looked like they'd had a covering of snow. Kevin Bradshaw - he of the old weather cuttings from papers and videos of old TV weather forecasts - lives near there and took some amazing pictures. Then, as I got to the very outer of Manchester, it disappeared. 


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The Beast from the East
06 December 2025 03:11:43
There should have been a yellow warning for wind today.  Had some damage to window from falling branch.  Annoying. Didnt expect that, 
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Brian Gaze
06 December 2025 16:32:44
There was a day in the early to mid-80s that I remember very well. My dad was working the night shift, and when he returned at about 7am there was a covering of very slushy snow. During the morning it melted, but there were hail and snow showers that grew heavier in intensity. The snow began settling, and blizzard-like conditions set in through the afternoon, with temperatures dipping below 0°C. By the time my dad got out of bed at about 5pm, the snow was powdery and about 20cm deep on the level, with the wind blowing it off roofs and so on. It was an amazing snow “event”, and I suspect, though I’m not sure, that it was in February. (This was in York)
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Chunky Pea
06 December 2025 17:02:47
I tend to judge interesting weather days as those with plenty of thunder. The 6 hour + storm with forked, positive lightning galore back in August last year stands out as a more recent example. June & July 2014 stand out for its high frequency of such storms. Snow wise, December 2000 stands very much out. Heavy powdery snow accumulating to over a foot and with pleny of thunder to boot. Magical event. 
Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

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