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Devonian
07 September 2025 19:37:23

Seems 2025 has come out, amazingly, top for both UK and CET (by a whisker) even if not for the Manchester area. The unpredictability of the weather here is one reason why we shouldn't talk 'front loaded' in June, just because June is a hot one.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Both '76 and '25 are  17.72C on the Hadley CET page. '76 still having the highest average max, but '25 the highest min.

Also of interest is how much colder spring '76 was than spring '25 (by more than 2C!). Had spring this year not been so warm and dry then summer would surely have been a lot greener and not so arid.

Bertwhistle
07 September 2025 19:49:21

Both '76 and '25 are  17.72C on the Hadley CET page. '76 still having the highest average max, but '25 the highest min.

Also of interest is how much colder spring '76 was than spring '25 (by more than 2C!). Had spring this year not been so warm and dry then summer would surely have been a lot greener and not so arid.

Originally Posted by: Devonian 

All true. I am very glad some rain has come. The Itchen has been normal or close throughout, but we've just returned from a holiday near Tiverton, where the beautiful Exe is just starting to recover.

Delight to see kingfishers and dippers in numbers.


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Saint Snow
08 September 2025 13:21:00

What do we think of this BBC article today, that states 1976 isn't even in the top 5 now??

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/c1kz18d3wjro 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

They're not using the CET for that statement, so it makes sense!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

How does such a discrepancy arise, then?

I mean, 1976 is/was the hottest on record for the CET series.

Yet using the methodology reported on the BBC, it's not even in the top 5, and relatively large gap of 0.4c to this year's

Is it simply down to milder nights? (and increased impact of the UHI effect as more and more of the UK is concreted over?)


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Essan
08 September 2025 13:43:23

How does such a discrepancy arise, then?

I mean, 1976 is/was the hottest on record for the CET series.

Yet using the methodology reported on the BBC, it's not even in the top 5, and relatively large gap of 0.4c to this year's

Is it simply down to milder nights? (and increased impact of the UHI effect as more and more of the UK is concreted over?)

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

1976 is not in the top 5 summers for the UK - the UK Temp Series is  based on all weather stations in England, Scotland, N Ireland & Wales.   As opposed to the CET series which is based on just 3 weather stations in England.    Hence the difference.


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Saint Snow
08 September 2025 13:48:31

1976 is not in the top 5 summers for the UK - the UK Temp Series is  based on all weather stations in England, Scotland, N Ireland & Wales.   As opposed to the CET series which is based on just 3 weather stations in England.    Hence the difference.

Essan wrote:

Ah, OK. I'm still shocked at how much difference there is (and, given 1995 remains the warmest on record for SW Scotland, the western side of Wales, and a large part of NI, and was a cracker - felt much better than 2025 for much of NW England, too), I'm surprised it's not higher on the overall list

This is a handy map showing the hottest summer on record in each different area of the UK:

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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/gallery/metofficegovuk/images/about-us/press-office/release-images/2025/summer-stats/record_map_by_area.jpg 


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Brian Gaze
08 September 2025 14:37:40

How does such a discrepancy arise, then?

I mean, 1976 is/was the hottest on record for the CET series.

Yet using the methodology reported on the BBC, it's not even in the top 5, and relatively large gap of 0.4c to this year's

Is it simply down to milder nights? (and increased impact of the UHI effect as more and more of the UK is concreted over?)

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

The 2025 CET has equalled the 1976 record at 17.2°C.


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Brian Gaze
08 September 2025 14:39:18

Ah, OK. I'm still shocked at how much difference there is (and, given 1995 remains the warmest on record for SW Scotland, the western side of Wales, and a large part of NI, and was a cracker - felt much better than 2025 for much of NW England, too), I'm surprised it's not higher on the overall list

This is a handy map showing the hottest summer on record in each different area of the UK:

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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/gallery/metofficegovuk/images/about-us/press-office/release-images/2025/summer-stats/record_map_by_area.jpg 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

The map shows how 2025 destroyed the previous hottest summers. Look at a comparable map for 2022 (I think that's the right year) and you'll see how it was the hottest summer on record in a much smaller number of areas. 


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lanky
08 September 2025 14:42:08

Ah, OK. I'm still shocked at how much difference there is (and, given 1995 remains the warmest on record for SW Scotland, the western side of Wales, and a large part of NI, and was a cracker - felt much better than 2025 for much of NW England, too), I'm surprised it's not higher on the overall list

This is a handy map showing the hottest summer on record in each different area of the UK:

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https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/gallery/metofficegovuk/images/about-us/press-office/release-images/2025/summer-stats/record_map_by_area.jpg 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

You can get all these UK, National and Regional variations for many different parameters in tabular format (including average mean temperature) from the Met Office's Regional Download link

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-and-regional-series 


Martin

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Frank H
08 September 2025 15:25:27
I'm not disputing the stats but its not felt like a record breaker in this part of the country

Not one day above 30c IMBY and a lot of cloud at times, no doubt leading to high min temps.

Looking at the met office data per Lanky's link for NW England/ N Wales, 2025 has the highest mean and min temp but 1976 has the highest max. 2025 is only in 8th place for max temps.

2025 is also outside the top 20 for sunshine

On the other hand 1976 is outside the top 20 for min temps.

Its a bit like the record breaking  CET in May 2024, a warm but cloudy forgettable month.

 


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Tim A
08 September 2025 16:24:08

It's felt unusually warm to me this summer. Several heatwaves and just endlessly warm temps.  Even the poor looking periods synoptically   have been average or above.  We haven't had endless high pressure or wall to wall sunshine just constantly above average air temperatures.

As an indicator, the house has been constantly warm or uncomfortable, usually there would be days when it was 18c-19c inside in the summer and feel a bit chilly at times but not this year.  Very dry too, this continues to present. 


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Retron
08 September 2025 16:36:18

As an indicator, the house has been constantly warm or uncomfortable, usually there would be days when it was 18c-19c inside in the summer and feel a bit chilly at times but not this year.  Very dry too, this continues to present. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

It's 20.8C outside, another warm and sunny day, and it's now a whole three months since the last time it didn't reach 20C here. I suspect that's unprecedented in recent history!


Leysdown, north Kent
Devonian
08 September 2025 16:48:22

We simply haven't seen a cold day (a cold day for spring, summer or autumn) for months. This morning felt (for 2025) chilly -  a minimum of 10C...Many August 1976 minimums were much lower than that.

Tim A
11 September 2025 10:50:32

It's 20.8C outside, another warm and sunny day, and it's now a whole three months since the last time it didn't reach 20C here. I suspect that's unprecedented in recent history!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

That's staggering!

For the summer as a whole, 69% of days reached 20c here which is very high. 


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Bertwhistle
11 September 2025 16:40:28

The 2025 CET has equalled the 1976 record at 17.2°C.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

17.72 and it tupped 76 by thousandths.


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Bertwhistle
11 September 2025 16:47:37

What would be interesting is to see the 'extended summer' rankings. Ingrid Holford mentioned this previously - May to September temperatures. 1976 wouldn't rank highly with a cool September and I wonder how 2006 and 2023 would do with their warm Septembers but 1989 looks like a contender, as do 1947 and 2016.


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Brian Gaze
11 September 2025 17:19:19

17.72 and it tupped 76 by thousandths.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Is that confirmed by the UK Met? I missed the announcement TBH. 


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Saint Snow
12 September 2025 09:49:25

I'm not disputing the stats but its not felt like a record breaker in this part of the country

Not one day above 30c IMBY and a lot of cloud at times, no doubt leading to high min temps.

Looking at the met office data per Lanky's link for NW England/ N Wales, 2025 has the highest mean and min temp but 1976 has the highest max. 2025 is only in 8th place for max temps.

2025 is also outside the top 20 for sunshine

On the other hand 1976 is outside the top 20 for min temps.

Its a bit like the record breaking  CET in May 2024, a warm but cloudy forgettable month.

 

Originally Posted by: Frank H 

It's felt unusually warm to me this summer. Several heatwaves and just endlessly warm temps.  Even the poor looking periods synoptically   have been average or above.  We haven't had endless high pressure or wall to wall sunshine just constantly above average air temperatures.

As an indicator, the house has been constantly warm or uncomfortable, usually there would be days when it was 18c-19c inside in the summer and feel a bit chilly at times but not this year.  Very dry too, this continues to present. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

I'd agree with both of these.

It's felt like it's been a long summer, but never an exceptional one in terms of prolonged high maxes and sunshine. If it were a graph, it would be very wavy. We definitely had some periods where the temp was maxing in the low 20's, and others where it turned a bit unsettled/wet (we had one in June that was a stinker)


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Retron
12 September 2025 10:23:14

Is that confirmed by the UK Met? I missed the announcement TBH. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

For whatever reason the MetO pretends the CET doesn't exist, at least when it comes to media reporting about temperatures. You'd think as custodians of the longest-running temperature series in the world that they'd give it a mention now and again, but nope - it's always UK wide or the England and Wales series which they quote.


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Bertwhistle
20 December 2025 19:08:00
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/meantemp_ranked_seasonal.txt 

2025 top.


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scillydave
20 December 2025 19:12:33

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/meantemp_ranked_seasonal.txt

2025 top.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Staggering when you look at the data like that - 8 out of the top 10 hottest summers of the last 366 years are in the last 50 years and 5 of the top ten are in the last 22 years.


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lanky
20 December 2025 20:52:12

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/data/meantemp_ranked_seasonal.txt

2025 top.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Beat 1976 by 1/1000C

17.718 against 17.717 on the basis of CET (max+min)/2


Martin

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speckledjim
20 December 2025 21:12:32

Staggering when you look at the data like that - 8 out of the top 10 hottest summers of the last 366 years are in the last 50 years and 5 of the top ten are in the last 22 years.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

More staggering is that 4 out of the last 5 years (including this year) are the warmest on record. And the top 10 of all time are since 2011


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