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Bertwhistle
20 August 2025 12:39:14

HadCET 18.2°C to 19th.


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Gavin D
21 August 2025 12:26:41

Hadley

18.1 to the 20th

2.4c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Bertwhistle
21 August 2025 14:34:45

Hadley

18.1 to the 20th

2.4c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

So a cold one yesterday (below 16- first for a while); but 18.1 on day 20 still helps- just over 16.4 still needed for a 17.5 finish.

To fail to get a 17 degree August we would need to dip below 15 for the rest of the month. Remember that would still give us above 17.4 for the summer.


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21 August 2025 17:11:44

So a cold one yesterday (below 16- first for a while); but 18.1 on day 20 still helps- just over 16.4 still needed for a 17.5 finish.

To fail to get a 17 degree August we would need to dip below 15 for the rest of the month. Remember that would still give us above 17.4 for the summer.

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

Another chilly night tonight. Warmer in the CET zone Friday-Sunday (I’d guess around 17C), then briefly much warmer Monday-Tuesday before what looks like a mediocre run in. 


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Stormchaser
22 August 2025 08:44:04

My usual method gives me an estimate of 17.7°C for the August CET using GFS numbers. Trouble is, that model has been more awry than ever lately with a large positive bias on the daily maximums, partially offset by a mostly (but not always) low bias on minimums.

For example, the 00z of 15th gave an estimated mean CET-to-date of 18.5°C for 20th, but the actual was 18.1°C.

OTOH, with a change to much more unsettled weather, the positive bias ought to reduce. Of late GFS has been predicting too little cloud cover and this has combined with a problem with its soil moisture parameter, making for too much daytime increase in temperature.

With that in mind, what goes on today through Sunday will be important. We're still in a more settled pattern but one prone to stubborn low-level cloud limiting max temps. For example UKV paints a pessimistic picture for today and tomorrow with a lot of cloud widely limiting max temps to the low 20s instead of GFS' mid-20s °C, before a general clearing up during Sunday allowing for mid-20s °C for many. With that scenario I could see the final CET being as low as 17.4°C.


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Hungry Tiger
22 August 2025 11:19:10

My usual method gives me an estimate of 17.7°C for the August CET using GFS numbers. Trouble is, that model has been more awry than ever lately with a large positive bias on the daily maximums, partially offset by a mostly (but not always) low bias on minimums.

For example, the 00z of 15th gave an estimated mean CET-to-date of 18.5°C for 20th, but the actual was 18.1°C.

OTOH, with a change to much more unsettled weather, the positive bias ought to reduce. Of late GFS has been predicting too little cloud cover and this has combined with a problem with its soil moisture parameter, making for too much daytime increase in temperature.

With that in mind, what goes on today through Sunday will be important. We're still in a more settled pattern but one prone to stubborn low-level cloud limiting max temps. For example UKV paints a pessimistic picture for today and tomorrow with a lot of cloud widely limiting max temps to the low 20s instead of GFS' mid-20s °C, before a general clearing up during Sunday allowing for mid-20s °C for many. With that scenario I could see the final CET being as low as 17.4°C.

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

Still an impressive tally if we end up on 17.5C. 


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Bertwhistle
22 August 2025 11:53:36

Still an impressive tally if we end up on 17.5C. 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

Even Stormchaser's suggestion of 17.4 would give 17.6 for the summer overall (with the slight favour of the least warm of the 3 months being fractionally shorter in days). 1826 in second place was 17.61 so it could be very close.

We had our first sub-10°C minimum for over 2 months last night. Felt very autumnal first thing, what with so many trees turning from the drought.


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Bertwhistle
22 August 2025 12:46:41

HadCET 18.0°C to 21st. Coming down more slowly than I expected these past two days.


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Bertwhistle
22 August 2025 12:48:50

Means we need 16.45 average for the last 10 days (including today) for a 17.5 finish. 


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Hungry Tiger
22 August 2025 17:23:54

Means we need 16.45 average for the last 10 days (including today) for a 17.5 finish. 

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

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Bertwhistle
23 August 2025 12:25:11

Awaiting HadCET mean- but the max and min data has been published with a cold 8+ °C morning yesterday morning, and a daily mean of only about 14.5. That'll knock it cack to 17.8 or 17.9


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Gavin D
23 August 2025 13:01:08

Hadley

17.8 to the 22nd

2.1c above the 61 to 90 average

0.8c above the 91 to 20 average

Gavin D
24 August 2025 12:45:02

Hadley

17.8 to the 23rd

2.0c above the 61 to 90 average

0.9c above the 91 to 20 average

Gavin D
25 August 2025 12:57:54

Hadley

17.8 to the 24th

2.1c above the 61 to 90 average

0.9c above the 91 to 20 average

Bertwhistle
26 August 2025 12:38:01

HadCET 17.9°C to 25th. Hanging in there.


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Bertwhistle
26 August 2025 12:44:34

I make it an average of just 16C, including today, now required for a 17.5 finish for August. That would put us just into second CET position for the summer. We only need an average of a miserable 13.25 for a 17 August.


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Gavin D
27 August 2025 13:08:53

Hadley

17.9 to the 26th

2.2c above the 61 to 90 average

1.0c above the 91 to 20 average

Bertwhistle
27 August 2025 13:39:46

Hadley

17.9 to the 26th

2.2c above the 61 to 90 average

1.0c above the 91 to 20 average

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Meaning an average of 15.42 is needed for the last 5 days, including today, for 17.5. Turning cooler but, being unsettled, the nights might not be too cool just yet. In with a chance, but a close run thing with 1826. A mean of 12.3 needed for 17°C. Small clusters (2 or more) of sub-13 days in August are rare (only 4 years this century having these, with 6 having 2 or more days anywhere in the month). So this seems highly unlikely but not impossible. In fact some of the best summers, including 2003 and 2018, had 2 or more days as cool as this later in August, slightly spoiling their own statistics.

A look at the forecast maxima and minima for the 3 stations suggests currently nothing so cool: around 14.7 for Stonyhurst, 16.2 Rothamsted and 16.7 Pershore which would nudge us above the 15.42.


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Bertwhistle
28 August 2025 12:20:56

HadCET still 17.9°C to 27th.


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Gavin D
29 August 2025 12:44:16

Hadley

17.9 to the 28th

2.1c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Bertwhistle
29 August 2025 13:17:20

That 17.9 must be rounded as yesterday's CET was just 15.9.

Nonetheless, if we suggest just 17.85, this means there have been almost exactly 500 degree days. For the last 3 days, including today, an average of (want to say impossible) 9 degrees per day will give us 17 and 14.2 per day for 17.5°C

Amazingly, 15.2 per day would give us 17.6, or 17.67 for the summer. This would still fall short of 1976 however bu .05 of a degree.


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Bertwhistle
30 August 2025 12:36:00

Looks like yesterday's mean was 16 or 16.1 so the figure (not out yet) should only drop to 17.8.


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Gavin D
30 August 2025 12:50:35

Hadley

17.8 to the 29th

2.0c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Gavin D
31 August 2025 12:48:57

Hadley

17.8 to the 30th

2.0c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Bertwhistle
31 August 2025 13:05:32

Hadley

17.8 to the 30th

2.0c above the 61 to 90 average

1.1c above the 91 to 20 average

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Now that I wasn't expecting. This means if today comes in at just 14.7, we'll end up with 17.7 for August, meaning 17.7°C for the summer as a whole (rounded of course)

1976 in top spot stands at 17.72.


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