To many of us, it might seem as though we have already had our summer given that we had such a dry and sunny spring with some very warm temperatures at times and for here in Scotland at least, it has already been officially confirmed by the UK Met Office as our sunniest spring on record but today only marks the very first day of the meteorological summer and the astronomical summer doesn't even start until the summer solstice on 21 June 2025

As this is a weather forum though, we generally like to go by the meteorological seasons and if you would like to rant or gloat about what's happening this summer, or just have a general discussion about that, this is the thread for those general discussions.

Later on today, a new thread will be started to cover the final statistics for only the month of May 2025 but if you wish to post any final statistics for the spring as a whole or to give your general thoughts about that, you can still do so in the spring moaning thread otherwise this thread should be used from now on to give your general thoughts on what's happening now, or to rant or gloat about that.

After all of the dry and sunny weather which we had in the spring with our temperatures in April getting to not all that far below the highest levels which they got to throughout the whole of last year, we are now in a more unsettled period of weather with Atlantic weather systems now coming in on a more regular basis.

There are a few hints that there might be a build of high pressure which could lead to some summer-like conditions by the middle of this month in the south of England at least, but that is only mere speculation for the northern half of the UK at least, there are no signs of any return to proper summer-like weather for the time-being at least.

Of course, it would just be like the thing is we had already had our "summer" here during the spring, even though the meteorological summer is only just starting today, and will continue until the end of August but only time will tell on that one of course.

At the stage now where it feels that this is never going to end. Really can't imagine living anywhere else on earth that feels this bad because life here has all the quality of being chained up in an underground dungeon living on water and hard potatoes dipped in gruel.

2 1/2 years of this nonsense. Grey overcast crap virtually every single Sunday. 20% less sunshine than any other day of the week. How the hell can this be happening? It's just getting worse and worse as the sunny weekdays we've been getting only accentuates the ongoing dismalness of this unrelentingly grim day.

What possible rational explanation could account for this?

Sunshine by day of week and year:

2023

Tuesday 5.46 (46%)

Saturday 4.84 (41%)

Friday 4.55 (38%)

Monday 4.53 (38%)

Thursday 4.33 (37%)

Wednesday 4.18 (35%)

Sunday 3.52 (30%)

2024

Thursday 4.66 (39%)

Friday 4.47 (38%)

Saturday 4.33 (36%)

Monday 4.11 (35%)

Wednesday 4.09 (34%)

Tuesday 3.86 (33%)

Sunday 3.6 (30%)

2025

Thursday 6.5 (57%)

Friday 6.14 (54%)

Wednesday 6.15 (54%)

Tuesday 6.13 (53%)

Saturday 5.09 (44%)

Monday 4.3 (37%)

Sunday 3.4 (30%)

Just horrible and unbearable. This years stats are the pits. Look at Tuesday to Friday compared to the absolute horror that is Sunday. Continuing at rock bottom for a third successive year with the same dire 30% that is equivalent to what the dullest years on record saw.

Dense enough now to completely blot out the sun. 

It also went as far as to Cyprus from reports of Kita weather site mentioned smoke from Canada, what the problem with Canada and their fires, they had a poor cold wet Spring as my cousin said in Toronto had very poor Spring so should be no fires to start.

Looks like a layer of dense altostratus here at the moment. If you didn't know it was smoke, you would think a warm front was moving in and close by. Helping to keep the temps tamed as well. between 12c and 14c all day. 15c to 17c more typical for these sort of breezy mP airmasses at this time of year. 

It's just beyond ludicrous. Can't leave the house without getting wet, can't cut the grass because it's always soaking wet. Yet another absolutely stinking weekend where it's hammering down. An putrid 9.4 degrees outside. An absolute sick disgusting joke. Much worse than during the week yet again. It's like living in the Highlands. Rainfall double what used to be normal, barely able to get a dry day, no evidence of any sort of rain shadow effect any more.

About 55mm of rain since the 24th May and only two dry days. Just makes me want to scream. What the hell have I done to deserve the utter crap this decade has produced so far? It makes the godawful 2000s and 2010s look acceptable by comparison. 

Literally can't wait to get away from this vile, unliveable soul destroying unhealthy filth. This time next week I'll be on my way to a country with a climate that is conducive to the good of humanity. Just wish it was for good and not just a holiday.

Taken about 15 mins ago. 

Edit, Latest sat from WZ:

We just had a weekend in the Lakes.

Pity we didn't get the great weather of a few weeks ago, but we actually didn't fare that bad - and it was actually dry for the majority of the time, with long spells of sunshine. The most used phrase was "haven't we been lucky with the weather?"

To all those saying we don't need rain, it turns out we do...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4zyq4rde4o 

That depends on where you are in the country and there are more details about the situation here in Scotland on this month's precipitation thread where I have just posted a summary of this week's water scarcity report by SEPA.

According to that report, the Helmsdale area in the far NE of Scotland has just had its status upgraded from moderate water scarcity status to significant water scarcity status which is the highest status which you can get to in that regard, so that is an area which clearly very badly needs to be getting some rainfall.

According to that same report though, there are many parts of Scotland which are at normal status for water scarcity as a result of those areas having now fully recovered, so those are the areas which clearly don't need the rain so much going forward from here.

I would imagine that the scenario will be similar in England and the rest of the UK which means whilst the linked report highlights one part of England which badly needs some rainfall according to the Environment Agency (SEPA is just the Scottish equivalent of that), but there will no doubt be other parts of England where the situation isn't as bad and which don't need any more rain.

It is always said that that these things always balance out in the end anyway, but we also have the effects of climate change and with that, there can never be any guarantee that everything will continue to balance out in the longer term. For that reason, I believe that there are reasons to be concerned about that.

Lovely day and warming up for this week indoors was 32.1C living room, 28C in other rooms and conservatory first time to reached 40C since 30th April and 1st May at 39.8C today and 39.2C yesterday. If skies are very clear tomorrow I might see 41c then low 40's by Friday.  

Currently between 25-27C with the doors to the conservatory opened and leave it open all night so very pleasant not humid and fan on.

Lawn is beginning to suffer again after greening up with the early June rain. I'm not using the hosepipe this year though - trying to do my bit to conserve water.

Stuff the water companies, frankly - I don't usually use a hosepipe, but will be this year as long as it's not banned (not on the grass, more the borders, the pond, and for a couple of trees I planted last autumn - oh, and to fill a small paddling pool I've got for my puppy). If they want to put up my bill by 52%, as they have done, then I'll just use 52% more water to get my money's worth. I'm not on a meter. 😁

The past week has been pretty rough in terms of temperatures, sleeping, noise and smells (the latter two from outside, as people can't help but be annoying in hot weather). The following week looks to be even worse. Awful weather, with the rest of June likely to be a write off... I just hope that we get some rain and cooler temperatures through the remaining two months of summer!

A different world up here of course in summer with maximum temperatures around 19-22 C and down to 10-15 C at night so no trouble sleeping. We are quite sunny in Edinburgh so can sit outside most days despite the incessant breeze. Not sure if this is a moan or a gloat, could be both 🤔

Looks like Edinburgh will get a waft of warm air on Friday and perhaps Saturday, maybe up to 25 C. Certainly no heatwave!

From Sunday, it's back to normal for next week with the boisterous and changeable westerly returning

No need for dramatic red or orange alerts here in summer🙄

It has to be remembered though that it was only in 2022 that the temperature reached around 35°C in the Scottish Borders at the same time as the temperature exceeded 40°C down south and with ongoing climate change, this is only going to become increasingly more common with the effects of that becoming more extreme, and also extending further north over time.

It may well be true that this is nothing for you or I to worry about but we are now a quarter of the way through the 21st century already which means that although I am unlikely to still be around at the end of this century, there are already an increasing number of people at a much younger age who are around today, and who will still be around at that time. These people along with future generations after that are the very people who are most likely to be affected by all of that, and that is who my main concerns lie with in that regard.

What's happened to the 'three fine days and a thunderstorm' which used to be the traditional British summer? True, Dover got a soaking at the weekend, but that was very local. The thundery breakdowns as the Atlantic forced its way back in used to be much more widespread.

Incidentally, I've been looking at weather in central Europe in connection with an upcoming holiday, and they don't seem to be short of rain there.

I just saw mention of a severe thunderstorm risk as the Atlantic air starts to push east on Saturday on the latest Met Office update. Looking like it will be focussed on northern England and southern Scotland but something to keep an eye on.

In my recollection, thunderstorms are more typically localised than being a widespread event. 

Yes, I saw that as well on the Met Office's Weekend Weather video on YouTube and this does give us the possible chance of thunderstorms here moving up from the south.

That appears to be only a very recent development though as previous forecasts just had the cooler air sweeping in from the west over the course of the weekend without even a hint of any possible thundery breakdown.

Today max and min for the conservatory was 22.2C to 43.0C 109.4F and 33.7C in the living room to 30 -31C other rooms.  Tomorrow possible the same levels but having 43C is the hottest since I have them built with doors open to the house, for sure it will be well over 50C if closed.  Fans had been on all the time and felt i am in Nicosia, Cyprus now with the heat it was very dry one with humidity down as low as 19%, the lowest I seen indoors so far.  Now all rooms are pleasant 29-30C and low humidity. 

It's nice sitting in the garden watching the bats flying around in the late twilight with temperatures still in the low to mid 20's 😊

Pleasant is not how I'd describe it Jiries but each to their own! Here it's a sticky 26c upstairs making sleeping very uncomfortable. 

Despite today was cool my home temps still hot 30 living room and 36.4 conservatory so no matter what temps is outside and if any sun it maintain indoor temps 27 to 30 and low to mid 30s in the conservatory.  All windows vents are open all the time. I sleep well with fan on so no problem.