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ballamar
01 February 2025 19:48:47
Would usually be time for a -10c ENS watch ! Think someone is on holiday
Gandalf The White
01 February 2025 20:23:03

Would usually be time for a -10c ENS watch ! Think someone is on holiday

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

For London:

at T+280 0/32

at T+240 2/32

at T+300 2/32

at T+360 3/32

If you lower the bar to -8 you get up to 7/32 at T+240

If you use the height of the 0c isotherm as the guide and use 250 metres then that gives 5/32 at T+240 and 9/32 at T+300.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



Jiries
01 February 2025 20:52:54

Would usually be time for a -10c ENS watch ! Think someone is on holiday

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

I remember he posted that he going away on holiday this time ? He mentioned during early Jan.

Ally Pally Snowman
01 February 2025 20:55:20
Another decent ECM , a snowy easterly FI.
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
tallyho_83
01 February 2025 22:56:38
Uppers on Valentines day according to 18z:

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Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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ballamar
01 February 2025 23:01:51
Possibly the perfect run for snow for the east and south east - streamers galore in sub zero temps. Might happen - for now good to dream!
White Meadows
01 February 2025 23:02:41
Well well well, what do we have here?

The models tease the possibility of special sypnotics, in the  form of a Siberian or Scandy high… 

…but what matters most is a total void of cold air to our north east.

Some very high hurdles to overcome but it’s possible a classic Kent & Sussex blizzard could come out of the current output. 

But temps need to lower over the continent. 

tallyho_83
01 February 2025 23:06:19
Todays mean zonal wind speed at 60 deg N @ 10hpa is dipping again:

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Retron
01 February 2025 23:13:55

I remember he posted that he going away on holiday this time ? He mentioned during early Jan.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Yup, I'm in Tokyo for another couple of days. (It's been sunny and very dry - dewpoints in the -10 sort of range. Funnyily enough the Japan Met Agency forecast persistent snow today, settling to a depth of 3cm, as a low moves in; the Euro models just had rain. And as I look out across Tokyo Bay on this gloomy Sunday morning - it's chucking it down with rain.)

Were I back home I'd have been in two minds as to whether to start an ensemble watch, truth be told, but it does look intriguing. At the moment though the real cold is such a long way out any number of things could happen in the meantime. Hopefully it'll all still be there when I'm back home on Wednesday!


Leysdown, north Kent
tallyho_83
01 February 2025 23:28:17

Well well well, what do we have here?

The models tease the possibility of special sypnotics, in the  form of a Siberian or Scandy high… 

…but what matters most is a total void of cold air to our north east.

Some very high hurdles to overcome but it’s possible a classic Kent & Sussex blizzard could come out of the current output. 

But temps need to lower over the continent. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

True - Moscow reached a balmy +7c yesterday. 


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ballamar
01 February 2025 23:28:38

Yup, I'm in Tokyo for another couple of days. (It's been sunny and very dry - dewpoints in the -10 sort of range. Funnyily enough the Japan Met Agency forecast persistent snow today, settling to a depth of 3cm, as a low moves in; the Euro models just had rain. And as I look out across Tokyo Bay on this gloomy Sunday morning - it's chucking it down with rain.)

Were I back home I'd have been in two minds as to whether to start an ensemble watch, truth be told, but it does look intriguing. At the moment though the real cold is such a long way out any number of things could happen in the meantime. Hopefully it'll all still be there when I'm back home on Wednesday!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Enjoy the break, looks more interesting than usual. Am sure you can bring back the cold rain 😂

Jiries
01 February 2025 23:33:30

Well well well, what do we have here?

The models tease the possibility of special sypnotics, in the  form of a Siberian or Scandy high… 

…but what matters most is a total void of cold air to our north east.

Some very high hurdles to overcome but it’s possible a classic Kent & Sussex blizzard could come out of the current output. 

But temps need to lower over the continent. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

Checking with Rovaniemi, they will see -24 and -12 max on Tuesday but rising very fast to 0C next day and then around -2 to -3C maxes and -7 to -10C at nights seem too high for the Arctic circle regions so that risky for us here if the winds come from the NE mean will be less cold temps here around 4-5C while uppers only -8C.  Need to see those regions to be -30 to -40C like it did in Feb 1991 to bring real subzero temps in the UK with uppers down to -15C which is much needed to ensure subzero 24 hours a day.

Nice to hear from you Darren, seem there not much snow this year in Japan as you said mostly sunny days there.  

tallyho_83
02 February 2025 00:05:00
18z Strat temps @10hpa still showing the trend of extensive warming over N. Pole splitting the PV:

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Karl Guille
02 February 2025 00:47:31
Pretty decent 18z ensembles even right down here.

https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gensp/runs/2025020118/graphe3_10000_220_248___.gif 


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Guernsey

Ally Pally Snowman
02 February 2025 07:56:51
Looks like an easterly setting up in a week but a slightly half arsed one but may deliver some flurries.  Then perhaps a more meaningful one setting up after that but more doubt about that one. 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
nsrobins
02 February 2025 08:00:23
Fairly robust cross-model support now for an easterly flow from next weekend. As usual there’s still some uncertainty as to the depth of cold we can get in and understandably (after so many non-starters over the years) there’s caution, but it’s looking likely cold to very cold weather will develop into the following week.

The 00Z GEFS control is the trendsetter 😉


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

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02 February 2025 08:26:01
WX temp charts - a steady movement of cold air westwards, in week 2 freezing weather reaching Poland and the next isotherm down (2C) the Atlantic coast including Britain. But it's not intensely cold back in Russian source. Rather dry for Europe for both weeks with rain flirting with the far NW (Scotland and Norway) and the C Mediterranean.

GFS Op 00z; HP to the SE maintaining a SW-ly flow for Britain (unsettled in NW?) until an HP cell appears 1040mb England Wed 5th. This moves on and intensifies NW Russia 1050mb Fri 7th and a SE-ly , sets in over Britain importing more or less cold air from S Russia. The HP moves closer to Scotland Sun 9th and wind goes round more E-ly for a while before the HP moves N 1040mb Sun 16th; wind back to SE but much colder air from the NE then appearing in E Europe.

ECM ; like GFS though HP delays its appearance until Thu 6th

GEFS; dipping to cool Wed 5th then good ens agreement on cold (2 or 3 C below norm) until Wed 12th.  (Scotland rebounds to mild for a day or two after the 5th, then less agreement and not so cold nor consistently so) Ens members then vary, op mild but control v cold with mean close to norm. A little rain the NW at first, also appearing in some runs in small amounts later.


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ballamar
02 February 2025 08:30:08
Personally jut going to pay attention to the pattern as in my experience the temperatures will be lower than suggested in the output - snow cover etc influencing the actual ground temps. Very positive if it’s cold you want. Might even dust the sledge off - but that might put the mockers on it
CField
02 February 2025 09:17:11
AIFS 0z run looks to have nailed it....
Favourite snowstorm

Famous channel low

Dec 31st 1978

Hastings East Sussex

Foot of level snow severe drifting

Next day max temp -4 degrees Celsius

Ally Pally Snowman
02 February 2025 09:25:11

AIFS 0z run looks to have nailed it....

Originally Posted by: CField 

Indeed , 80s esque. 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=aifs&var=1&run=0&time=360&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Jiries
02 February 2025 09:37:39

Wish the date line was tomorrow as this will give Thames streamers for SE and here from the wash.  Those charts need to come down those dates not push back delays hopefully.

Ally Pally Snowman
02 February 2025 09:45:43

Wish the date line was tomorrow as this will give Thames streamers for SE and here from the wash.  Those charts need to come down those dates not push back delays hopefully.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Indeed, but the AIFS run is the perfect example of the two bites of the cherry with the first easterly in a week being the hors d'oeuvre and the second one being the Beast. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
ballamar
02 February 2025 10:01:09
Contingency planners must be making some pre preparation for the small chance we are going to have a disruptive spell of weather. Didn’t we used to have some members that had some inside knowledge? Obviously a lot can change but the chances are increasing day by day.
doctormog
02 February 2025 10:06:25
The form horse in medium to long term, based on the last couple of days of output, looks like some form of anticyclonic easterly flow. At this point it is a realistic probability, whether it is more than cool and grey remains to be seen. In the more reliable time frame high pressure looks like building in to keep things more settled (and perhaps brighter than previous anticyclonic spells).
Ally Pally Snowman
02 February 2025 10:10:00
Ecm ensembles not really picking up the second easterly yet though. 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.

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