The Weather Outlook

Remove ads from site

Hippydave
05 October 2024 18:01:49

As I said at the start, my concerns were more about the amount of rainfall, given how wet it’s been in the last month.  

It looks now like a typical battle between the GFS and ECM/UKMO, with the European models taking the LP across northern France whilst GFS brings it critically further north to affect the southern third of the UK, with copious amounts of rain.  Not sure we’ll know for another couple of days yet.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

12z GFS has amended south, with the precip just fringing the Kent coast. 

Something approaching consensus that Kirk will run through Northern France and although still time for a Northward shift, I suspect based on current output it's a near miss. Probably a good thing from a flooding POV as you flagged above, lots of areas do not need a spell of intense rain!


Home: Tunbridge Wells

Work: Tonbridge

Gandalf The White
05 October 2024 23:17:19

12z GFS has amended south, with the precip just fringing the Kent coast. 

Something approaching consensus that Kirk will run through Northern France and although still time for a Northward shift, I suspect based on current output it's a near miss. Probably a good thing from a flooding POV as you flagged above, lots of areas do not need a spell of intense rain!

Originally Posted by: Hippydave 

Yes, and the 18z keeps a similar track, just pushing rain into the far SE. Hopefully this particular thread will become redundant in the next 24-48 hours.  But there’s a lot of rain in the forecast charts at the moment, so it may be that we’ve just dodged one bullet.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
06 October 2024 06:48:23
The NHC have firmed up on a track across N France but that leaves the south coast on the edge of the associated wind and rain. 

The public MetO forecast has a day of light rain along the coast and peak gusts late Wednesday - early Thursday 30-35mph all along from Plymouth to Dover


War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

Retron
06 October 2024 06:53:31

The NHC have firmed up on a track across N France but that leaves the south coast on the edge of the associated wind and rain. 

The public MetO forecast has a day of light rain along the coast and peak gusts late Wednesday - early Thursday 30-35mph all along from Plymouth to Dover

Originally Posted by: DEW 

It still seems odd to see an NHC track extending all the way east of the meridian - the only other times I've seen that have been when an ex-hurricane passes north of Scotland.

Looking at the GEFS it does seem that we're going to dodge this one, which is good for us if not for France! In the space of two days we've gone from the majority of members bringing strong (>100kmh gusts) to just two outliers.

I find this link useful for tracking this sort of event:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs.php?table=1 

Click on a spot on the map (or use the Carte Europe option if you're "up north") and you get a nice table view. "Vent Rafales 10m" is the option you'll want - wind gusts.


Leysdown, north Kent
The Beast from the East
06 October 2024 10:12:50
Looks like the Frogs are gonna get a hammering. LOL. Thanks God its not us.  
Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President

Retron
06 October 2024 15:58:05

Looks like the Frogs are gonna get a hammering. LOL. Thanks God its not us.  

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

We really dodged a bullet on this one - hopefully!

Just look at Kirk on the 12z ICON run, for example:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/icon-eu.php?ech=75&mode=11&map=500 

Not only does it bring widespread 80mph+ gusts across central and eventually NE France, it's still mostly tropical as it hits land. Note the way the strong winds wrap around the core as it's over Biscay, and how it's only when it's halfway across France that the typical warm sector appears (with the strongest winds SE of the core).

It's visible on the 850 charts too, a little blob of warm temperatures at the core, only developing the "shark's fin" type warm sector again halfway across France.

(I know Q has posted phase diagrams showing a similar thing, but the wind gust / 850 charts will be more familiar to us all!)


Leysdown, north Kent
Saint Snow
06 October 2024 17:24:25
Is there still any prospect to readjust northwards and bring some respite from the interminable boredom of perpetual autumn?

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

Retron
06 October 2024 17:42:28

Is there still any prospect to readjust northwards and bring some respite from the interminable boredom of perpetual autumn?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

1) Possibly, if it's deeper than expected (deeper lows curve more to the north). It's unlikely at this stage though IMO.

2) Personally speaking wind is my least favourite "hazard" weather by far, as it causes sleepless nights due to the noise - a mostly flat roof seems to amplify the noise of various creaks and bangs - and worry about things blowing over / off, such as trees, roof tiles, fences etc.

Give me fog, rain, hail, sleet, snow any day, but wind? Nope.


Leysdown, north Kent
doctormog
06 October 2024 17:53:30

Is there still any prospect to readjust northwards and bring some respite from the interminable boredom of perpetual autumn?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

No.🤣 


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
06 October 2024 18:29:16

Is there still any prospect to readjust northwards and bring some respite from the interminable boredom of perpetual autumn?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Latest NHC has adjusted the track northwards so now coming ashore at the mouth of the Loire. Edge of shaded area = limit of possible track, damaging  effects over a wider area, now touching the S Coast from Wight to Dover.

If you're bored, would you like to arrange a house swap for a week?


War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

idj20
06 October 2024 21:55:49

Latest NHC has adjusted the track northwards so now coming ashore at the mouth of the Loire. Edge of shaded area = limit of possible track, damaging  effects over a wider area, now touching the S Coast from Wight to Dover.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

UserPostedImage

😉


Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
Jiries
07 October 2024 04:37:08

Is there still any prospect to readjust northwards and bring some respite from the interminable boredom of perpetual autumn?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

More looking forward to sunny northerly end of the week. This Autumn seem to be front loaded cold type as we getting 2 to 3 days Northerly instead of few hours to 24hrs type.  Well below average as well so far this month.

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
07 October 2024 06:37:31

UserPostedImage

😉

Originally Posted by: idj20 

Relax, NHC has heard your plea and this morning allows Kirk to devastate central France, heading for Luxembourg


War is God's way of teaching Americans geography - Ambrose Bierce

Chichester 12m asl

StoneCroze
07 October 2024 11:12:59
Is it my imagination or is there some potential for some thundery activity coming up from the South and crossing the Channel?

I see there is some activity in the SW approaches currently. 


Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
NMA
  • NMA
  • Advanced Member
07 October 2024 11:47:23

Is it my imagination or is there some potential for some thundery activity coming up from the South and crossing the Channel?

I see there is some activity in the SW approaches currently. 

Originally Posted by: StoneCroze 

Perhaps not. The BBC is more bullish about thundery showers later. The Met Office not so much but still possible still there for tomorrow.

The big storm some of us were worrying about on this thread has all but vanished for the South later in the week. Hope it stays that way.

We've already had some hefty fast moving showers today.


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Lionel Hutz
07 October 2024 13:18:11

Relax, NHC has heard your plea and this morning allows Kirk to devastate central France, heading for Luxembourg

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Looking at the Fax charts this morning, it doesn't look like Kirk is going to devastate anywhere. 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datukgfshires.aspx?display=fax&model=fax 

It will still pack a punch when it reaches France but nothing like what was on the cards a couple of days ago.


Lionel Hutz

Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland

68m ASL



QQQQ
  • QQQQ
  • Advanced Member
07 October 2024 15:27:51

Perhaps not. The BBC is more bullish about thundery showers later. The Met Office not so much but still possible still there for tomorrow.

The big storm some of us were worrying about on this thread has all but vanished for the South later in the week. Hope it stays that way.

We've already had some hefty fast moving showers today.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

There is a trough shown on the fax chart which ties in with the radar plot for the moment and the UKV rainfall plot. The Met Office still have a yellow warning posted for thunderstorms later this evening.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2024-10-07&id=23918c0a-860e-4e06-805b-0d836294004e 


Cheers

"Q"

Poole, Dorset

39m ASL

Poole Current Conditions  

NMA
  • NMA
  • Advanced Member
08 October 2024 07:10:51
Just seen your post. The showers continued through the night. No thunder here but they continue this morning with intense short downpours.
Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Remove ads from site