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Retron
26 July 2024 09:45:47

So about average for London then. I've always thought that London as a world tourist destination has just about the perfect summer climate for visiting. Not too hot but warm enough to be pleasant almost all the time. A reasonable amount of sun and not that much rain.

Originally Posted by: Col 

Tomorrow will be average, yes. The 29 that Tim is enthusing about isn't average, far from it, and will be especially unpleasant to be out and about in. (And yes, I speak from experience - it was 25 when I went four weeks ago and that was enough for the Jubilee line carriage I was on to stink of BO, and the bus back from Kew was especially putrid inside - steamy, and it stank of BO and stale piss. 29 would be even worse.)

London's transport isn't designed for hot weather, other countries where it's hotter (like Japan, or the south/SW in the States) cope much better with it all!


Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
26 July 2024 09:53:08
I agree it's a bit too hot but at least it will be warm in the evenings so can sit out. 

It won't be as bad as last summer, 12 days in Florence/Tuscany with temps over 40c on half the days (and just under on the others) and no air con for most of the trip. 


Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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Jiries
26 July 2024 10:37:08

Tomorrow will be average, yes. The 29 that Tim is enthusing about isn't average, far from it, and will be especially unpleasant to be out and about in. (And yes, I speak from experience - it was 25 when I went four weeks ago and that was enough for the Jubilee line carriage I was on to stink of BO, and the bus back from Kew was especially putrid inside - steamy, and it stank of BO and stale piss. 29 would be even worse.)

London's transport isn't designed for hot weather, other countries where it's hotter (like Japan, or the south/SW in the States) cope much better with it all!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Until now they refused to put ac in buses even with cooler climate now we having it still hot inside any vehicle like all cars have ac is a must.

cultman1
28 July 2024 14:52:45
Here in Fulham it has turned cloudy albeit warmer than yesterday but only 25 degrees it was expected to reach 27 degrees 

Disappointing but not surprising 

cultman1
30 July 2024 07:57:28
According to the Met Office app it is meant to be unbroken sunshine throughout today at least for the London area currently it is cloudy . I doubt 32/33 degrees will be reached if this cloud cover continues. 
cultman1
30 July 2024 10:09:04
Just cirrus cloud now and a moderate breeze humidity picking up so could reach 29-30 
Jiries
04 August 2024 05:34:30
Those hopeless apple apps are so inaccurate and refusing sun symbols always full on daily overcast clouds fictional rain or snow undercook max temps and over cook night temps especially frosty nights rarely below -1.

Reality sunny to sunny spells at some point daily, no rain or snow, temps resulted higher by 2 to 3C and frosty nights well below -4 or more as proof of deep frosts on surfaces as -1 is slight frost patches.   I know very well on frostiness thickness from temps I used to record it.

Same applied to Nicosia and Furnace creek also well under cook both day and night temps.  

Rob K
04 August 2024 17:36:05
I bit of a gloat - we had three cracking days of weather on the Isle of Wight from Wednesday to Friday - pretty much wall to wall sunshine and temps in the mid 20s. Slightly disappointed to have missed the thunderstorms and flash flooding back home on Thursday but enjoyed a great beach day 50 miles to the south!

I suspect we might be less lucky in Cornwall from the 17th though.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Bolty
14 August 2024 14:25:55
That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.


Scott

Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.

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Saint Snow
14 August 2024 14:51:18

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

It's funny how one's subconscious mindset drifts over time.

Back in school, this week would have been one of the two middle-weeks of the school summer holidays, and I remember always thinking of summer as a July-August event. When I started working, I sort of gradually drifted away from that. When our kids were younger, you drift back.


Martin

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Retron
14 August 2024 15:10:38

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

It's later down here - around the 20th, or a couple of days later, but I know exactly what you mean. The sun loses its "kick" and from then on the changes happen much more quickly. It's now pretty dark in the morning when I get up too (I've noticed in the last few days that we've gone from a couple of just the brightest stars to lots more).

It still feels like high summer here but even then it looks a little autumnal due to the lack of rain: more trees are shedding leaves and the grass is increasingly turning to straw, leaving just the clover and dandelions etc behind!

Conversely the opposite happens in the middle of February down here - that's when the sun starts to get a kick to it, even if it's mild compared to the searing heat of midsummer.


Leysdown, north Kent
Chunky Pea
14 August 2024 16:27:05
Agree with above posts. Darkness coming in a earlier now but what Iove about 2nd half of August is the curiously red tinged evening twilights that you don't get at any other time of year. 
Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Col
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14 August 2024 16:46:21

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing today. The June/July intensity of the sun has gone. The exact converse of what happens in mid Feb when the sun is noticeably higher in the sky and begins to feel warm on your face. As someone who leaves for work at 4.45am every day it's the mornings getting darker that I notice. Around the solstice I leave in broad daylight but now there's just a glimmer of light in the east and soon that will be gone too.


Col

Bolton, Lancashire

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Retron
14 August 2024 16:54:03

Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing today. The June/July intensity of the sun has gone. The exact converse of what happens in mid Feb when the sun is noticeably higher in the sky and begins to feel warm on your face. As someone who leaves for work at 4.45am every day it's the mornings getting darker that I notice. Around the solstice I leave in broad daylight but now there's just a glimmer of light in the east and soon that will be gone too.

Originally Posted by: Col 

You're an early bird like me, then - the thing that always catches me out is how rapid that early morning change is this time of year!

The mid Feb/mid-late Aug switch is interesting too, as it doesn't really make sense, even though you've also noticed it.

Here, for example, around the 20th August the sun is still 51 degrees high in the sky, 11 degrees below the June maximum. Two weeks after that, early September, it'll only be 46 degrees high... but that's still way more than in late February, when it's only 26 degrees high!

I guess it's the rate of change we're picking up on in both cases. Following a long period where the sun's intensity has been much the same, be it winter or summer, we notice it more...


Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
14 August 2024 17:32:26
Funnily enough I was thinking the same and posted something in the current conditions thread at lunchtime.  Late summer vibes with gentle sunshine.  Lovely day today with temps 20-21c most of the afternoon. 
Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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andy-manc
18 August 2024 15:59:53
I just came here to say similar to what has already been said really. Sitting in the sun today, I can feel the change. It's like a switch. The height of the sun in the sky, the intensity of heat from it. One day it feels like mid summer, the next you can feel the end. Always feel it mid August. Don't know whether this extends to the south or if it's just north England upwards.
Retron
18 August 2024 16:02:37

I just came here to say similar to what has already been said really. Sitting in the sun today, I can feel the change. It's like a switch. The height of the sun in the sky, the intensity of heat from it. One day it feels like mid summer, the next you can feel the end. Always feel it mid August. Don't know whether this extends to the south or if it's just north England upwards.

Originally Posted by: andy-manc 

It's around the 20th here, although having been out in the garden at lunchtime, even though it was solar noon, the sun lacked the usual punchy hot feeling... it just felt warm rather than hot. Temperature wise it's the same as the past few days, but the humidity is much lower today and I'd imagine that's part of it.

Not long until it feels warm all the time, mind you, no matter what the humidity may be.


Leysdown, north Kent
Saint Snow
19 August 2024 11:19:35

I just came here to say similar to what has already been said really. Sitting in the sun today, I can feel the change. It's like a switch. The height of the sun in the sky, the intensity of heat from it. One day it feels like mid summer, the next you can feel the end. Always feel it mid August. Don't know whether this extends to the south or if it's just north England upwards.

Originally Posted by: andy-manc 

Feels positively chilly today.


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Jiries
19 August 2024 11:35:12

Feels positively chilly today.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Same here very chilly gale force winds and closed all the air vents yesterday to keep my home warm enough at 24 to 25C. Too much unexpected clouds today and yesterday after very poor forecast for a nice weekend.  

Can’t wait to exit this so very poor summer weather out soon enough with rating 0/10 which followed by very cold poor Spring. 

Retron
19 August 2024 13:13:46
No danger of it feeling chilly down here, sadly... just my luck that the past 4 weeks have been sunny, very warm, occasionally hot, and dry! 👎

Mind you, I agree with Jiries - I can't wait for this summer to be over, and indeed it's turned very poor indeed over the past four weeks. The best bits? The first half of June and the first half of July. Since then it's been utter dross...


Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
19 August 2024 13:29:45

No danger of it feeling chilly down here, sadly... just my luck that the past 4 weeks have been sunny, very warm, occasionally hot, and dry! 👎

Mind you, I agree with Jiries - I can't wait for this summer to be over, and indeed it's turned very poor indeed over the past four weeks. The best bits? The first half of June and the first half of July. Since then it's been utter dross...

Originally Posted by: Retron 

I am off 18 days fixed vacation from 2nd to 19th September so I am so hoping to see decent wall to wall sunshine days and warm temps.

I know you don't like high temps but why we can't get full sunshine in any temps of 18-20C in summer instead of compulsory over cast days like today.  At least in September or October we get sunny days with high teens temps or low 20's.

The smoke nonsense is not true that can block the sun completely all day, they are just making up excuses after their failed sunny forecasts last weekend back up with complaints in NW forum posters.  If was smoke it would not block the sun at all but still sunny and slight hazy skies but what I see it nasty clouds and clear skies overnight follow by cloudy day again, If was smoke then it would not be perfectly timed clear away at sunset to sunrise.  It all pack of lies from the media and can't have smoke travelled over 3000 miles exclusively to the UK to block the sun?

Tim A
19 August 2024 15:42:41
It's really windy here in the S Coast of France, I thought I had escaped the wind.  Nagging persistent NW wind for 2 days now.  Highs of 29c and 30c as the +15 850hpa isotherm clings to the south coast but you could say it feels chilly first thing and late evening due to the wind! 
Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

 My PWS 

cultman1
19 August 2024 17:59:19
Autumnal here in London today only got to 19 degrees Met Office got today's temperature  wrong big time 
fairweather
19 August 2024 23:28:26
Touched 22C in S.E Essex. Felt the coolest for some time for the reasons others have said.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
19 August 2024 23:45:11
Having previously been a lot of moans in times past about the BBC forecasts being S.E biased they seemed to have gone the other way lately! Every forecast I watch they keep emphasising more rain on the way and then show rain crossing the north and Scotland. Not so much as a mention that it has been very dry with just 10mm here in the last 5 weeks. Massive cracks in the lawn, leaves started to shed from the trees. I know it's pretty much an annual event here in the dry season but you'd think they'd mention it.
S.Essex, 42m ASL

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