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Rob K
19 July 2022 16:58:37

So are we just waiting for Cambridge?

Is there no chance of a lincolnshire site getting upgraded?

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Final figures aren't in yet. Some could have gone higher between 4pm and 5pm.

 

Just had a brief 1 minute shower which just about reached the ground. Temp 32C which feels positively cool.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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RobN
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19 July 2022 17:00:44

 

I thought the weather station was near huntingdon Road and not the farm near Impington/Histon only a mile or so difference anyway 

Long wait to see what botanical gardens show in the morning.

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

I think the coordinates given by the MetO for the NIAB site are wrong.

NIAB sold the land between Huntingdon Road and the A14 and there's a giant new hosing estate being built there.

The station must have moved to the new Park Farm facility before 2019 as I recall searching it out then on Google Earth.

Rob

In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.

Rob K
19 July 2022 17:03:37
Ogimet site is overloaded. Everyone trying to get the latest figures!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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John p
19 July 2022 17:03:46

Moderate rain here, feels lovely!

Originally Posted by: John p 

lasted all of 1 minute.

Camberley, Surrey
Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 17:05:53

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Zubzero
19 July 2022 17:06:18

 

I think the coordinates given by the MetO for the NIAB site are wrong.

NIAB sold the land between Huntingdon Road and the A14 and there's a giant new hosing estate being built there.

The station must have moved to the new Park Farm facility before 2019 as I recall searching it out then on Google Earth.

Originally Posted by: RobN 

 

Ahh explains the mix up thanks 👍 

Zubzero
19 July 2022 17:09:21

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 

You have forecast this hot spell very well 😊 

Bugglesgate
19 July 2022 17:16:47

Moderate rain here, feels lovely!

Originally Posted by: John p 

 

We dodged it completely here ..... or if it did rain, it didn't reach the ground.

You would have thought a hot spell  of that magnitude would have at least merited a cracking thunderstorm   to end it !!

Chris (It,its)

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Rob K
19 July 2022 17:16:51
Waddington 39.2 and Scampton 39.1C at 6pm. These seem almost underwhelming now but to still be above the old record at 6pm is pretty remarkable.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Quantum
19 July 2022 17:16:57

Ogimet site is overloaded. Everyone trying to get the latest figures!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Metoffice has not tweeted yet.

What do you think?

40.3C is not the one?

 

25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

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Quantum
19 July 2022 17:18:05

What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

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Rob K
19 July 2022 17:20:02

What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

They have generally been pretty quick off the mark when a new record has been set so maybe nothing higher than 40.3. But Cambridge BG and Brogdale could be late entries.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Quantum
19 July 2022 17:20:57

We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

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Arcus
19 July 2022 17:22:47

Just noting down the maxima from that Met Office tweet, for posterity - most of the stations that have beaten the old record (23 of the 29 they mention)

Coningsby 40.3C
Heathrow 40.2C
St James's Park 40.2C
Kew Gardens 40.1C
Northolt 40.0C
Charlwood 39.9C
Gringley on the Hill 39.9C
Cambridge NIAB 39.9C
Wittering 39.9C
Nottingham Watnall 39.8C
Bramham 39.6C
Woburn 39.6C
Bedford 39.5C
Monks Wood 39.5C
Sheffield 39.4C
Sutton Bonington 39.4C
Wisley 39.3C
Marham 39.2C
Holbeach 39.1C
Writtle 39.1C
Santon Downham 39.0C
Wellesbourne 39.0C
Coleshill 38.8C

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Be aware that some stations are missing from that original MetOffice >38.7c tweet

Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Rob K
19 July 2022 17:22:49

We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

 

Only 1 hour until we get to see the maxima from all the stations (barring the manual ones). I don't know if there are any other manual stations in the hot zone - there is a list of them somewhere.

 

Edit: see here https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-synoptic-and-climate-stations

 

Tetford and Denver are the only possible contenders I reckon, apart from CBG and Brogdale.

 

I saw a few people mention Waddington as a 40+ but had no confirmation yet.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

johncs2016
19 July 2022 17:25:25

 

Yay!

It was bound to be hotter than 32.9 somewhere near the border

Carlisle got up to 34.4 (nd might have been higher in-between the hours) and I know the weather station used there is at the ex-RAF facility in the north of the city only 5-6 miles from Gretna across a flat plain near sea-level as the crow flies, so I reckon Gretna would have recorded the same figure +-1C

https://goo.gl/maps/keeiD2uwCuiybA28

Carlisle used to belong to Scotland so we can just claim it directly too

 

Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 

Another thing to consider is that the quoted temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall is probably only the highest hourly reading for that station which helps to explain why it is only provisional just now.

It is only when the 18z SYNOP data comes in that we will know what today's actual maximum temperature was there and that applies elsewhere in the UK as well including those stations where the temperature has gone above 40°C.

This means that any record which has already been provisionally announced is likely to be officially declared with even higher values being confirmed for those records.

For here in Scotland, this means that we can't rule out the possibility of the new record actually being over 35°C once those actual maximum temperatures are known.

 

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Essan
19 July 2022 17:25:27

What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 



there are certainly a few manual stations that will not have reported yet and we may njot get the final figure for a few daysi  

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Quantum
19 July 2022 17:26:09

 

 

Only 1 hour until we get to see the maxima from all the stations (barring the manual ones). I don't know if there are any other manual stations in the hot zone - there is a list of them somewhere.

 

Edit: see here https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-synoptic-and-climate-stations

 

Tetford and Denver are the only possible contenders I reckon, apart from CBG and Brogdale.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

OK, I really want to see one 41C.

25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

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Rob K
19 July 2022 17:27:20

 

Another thing to consider is that the quoted temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall is probably only the highest hourly reading for that station which helps to explain why it is only provisional just now.

It is only when the 18z SYNOP data comes in that we will know what today's actual maximum temperature was there and that applies elsewhere in the UK as well including those stations where the temperature has gone above 40°C.

This means that any record which has already been provisionally announced is likely to be officially declared with even higher values being confirmed for those records.

For here in Scotland, this means that we can't rule out the possibility of the new record actually being over 35°C once those actual maximum temperatures are known.

 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

I'm not sure that's the case - the Met Office seem to get the instantaneous figures much earlier than us - they quoted higher figures than the hourly ones for Kew and St James's Park, among others - they never showed a 40C on the hour but the Met tweeted about them going over 40.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Rob K
19 July 2022 17:28:47
6pm (1700Z) update:

WADDINGTON 39.2

SCAMPTON 39.1

Humberside 39

CRANWELL AUTOMATIC W 38.5

CONINGSBY AUTOMATIC 38.3

NORMANBY HALL AUTOMA 38.2

MONKS WOOD AUTOMATIC 38.2

WITTERING 38

Cambridge 38

London City 38

EAST MALLING 37.8

All those still at or above 100F at 6pm!

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Quantum
19 July 2022 17:28:58

 

I'm not sure that's the case - the Met Office seem to get the instantaneous figures much earlier than us - they quoted higher figures than the hourly ones for Kew and St James's Park, among others - they never showed a 40C on the hour but the Met tweeted about them going over 40.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Maybe its a kew thing though?

 

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Rob K
19 July 2022 17:41:20

Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.

 

Coningsby 40.3C the top.

St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C

Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C

Northolt 40.0C

 

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw

 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Chunky Pea
19 July 2022 17:41:27

We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Same over here. We always get rounded top of the hour readings from official reports, but have to wait until the evening or even the next day to get the highest/lowest decimal reading. 

Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

John p
19 July 2022 17:43:01

We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Because it’s not really that important is it?

Camberley, Surrey
Nick Gilly
19 July 2022 17:43:19
Does anyone know if the 850 temps have been higher than yesterday's record at Cambourne? Could they have reached 25C?

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