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Rob K
19 July 2022 16:23:48

If the high is 'only' 40.3c then Cambridge BG definitely has chance 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

It would be interesting to know what the high at Humberside airport was. It has been reporting 40C on the METARS for a couple of hours now.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

NDunwell
19 July 2022 16:25:42

 

A lot of those stations are well away from the SE, including the new record holder.

Temperatures have peaked in Cambridge as far as I can tell so I don’t see any challenge there. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Cambridge botanical Gardens is potentially a challeneger because you won't know about it until tomorrow. It could have had 40.5 earlier today but we won't know. Same for Brogdale. I'm not talking about current temperatures. It's done now.


Nick

Ruislip (2 miles from the Northolt recording station)

johncs2016
19 July 2022 16:27:13
Claire Nasir from the Met Office has just announced on Channel 5 that Scotland has provisionally had its hottest day on record today with a temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall here in the Scottish Borders, although that has still to be verified and might not be officially confirmed until tomorrow.

However, that is in line with what we had here in Hawick, so that looks like a perfectly valid record to me.

Charterhall is on the main list of stations which is normally found at weatherobs.com, and is one of the stations which I always refer to as one of the nearest stations to where I am here in Hawick, although I haven't been able to find any data for there recently.

Perhaps, that might be the reason why there might be some doubt in that data and why it needs to be verified.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Rob K
19 July 2022 16:28:05
The last update from the met was at 4pm. I think quite a few of the Lincolnshire area stations could have got higher between 4pm and 5pm, so there could well be some more 40s we haven't yet seen.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Chunky Pea
19 July 2022 16:28:18

 

It would be interesting to know what the high at Humberside airport was. It has been reporting 40C on the METARS for a couple of hours now.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Any final result from Doncaster yet? It reported a rounded 40c a couple of times but no clue if it actually breached that figure. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Zubzero
19 July 2022 16:29:12

Are there two official UKMO stations in Cambridge?

Originally Posted by: Downpour 

Could be 3 if the airport counts

Rob K
19 July 2022 16:29:40

 

Any final result from Doncaster yet? It reported a rounded 40c a couple of times but no clue if it actually breached that figure. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

I don't think we can ever see the exact figures from airports unless the Met tweet them out.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

noodle doodle
19 July 2022 16:30:27

34.8c in Charterhall has made it Scotland's hottest day on record

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

yay, it's working after all! Result!

 

 

Chunky Pea
19 July 2022 16:32:08

 

I don't think we can ever see the exact figures from airports unless the Met tweet them out.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Sound, thanks!. That's a pity really. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Quantum
19 July 2022 16:32:17

Actually kind of dissapointed. I didn't really expect 42C because of the sparsity of the stations, but I did expect at least one 41C

When I was outside in the shade I went up to 40.5C, I'm quite suprised nowhere has managed to get beyond 40.3C

 


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Tim A
19 July 2022 16:32:20
Basically 40c from London to York . I would say maybe Lincolnshire was probably the hottest spot all other things being equal. Lots of the London ones are in urban areas, the rural contenders are the most impressive.


Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

 My PWS 

james
19 July 2022 16:33:11

Are there two official UKMO stations in Cambridge?

Originally Posted by: Downpour 

No, just the Botanic Garden, Cambridge NIAB is in the nearby village of Histon and in 2019 measured 0.5C below the Botanic Garden's record of 38.7, so if the same happens again the Botanic Garden would give 40.4C.

Jiries
19 July 2022 16:34:20

 

Excellent! So that's all time records for:

  • Wales
  • Scotland
  • England
  • UK
  • overnight low
  • 850hPa temp
  • Many many cities and towns

Originally Posted by: TimS 

If we will see this again in our life time or not long to wait for next time.  Today was the day we attempted to get to 40C after some attempts failed from 2015 onward.

35C and hazy sunshine, humidity going up also.

White Meadows
19 July 2022 16:37:25
After a cloudy interlude at 33.5c, sun is fiercely beating down again on the West Sussex coast back up to 35c

Humidity rising making it feel hotter than any other point of the day so far.

Quantum
19 July 2022 16:37:28

I think the sea breeze screwed us.

The hot land caused winds to become more easterly near the coast, while the front caused westerly winds further west. The result was a convergence zone which not only promoted cloud development but ascent that mixed some of the hotter air out of the boundary layer.

The GFS didn't pick up on this convergence zone, and while the UKV did it was further north in North Yorkshire.

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

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johncs2016
19 July 2022 16:40:46

34.8c in Charterhall has made it Scotland's hottest day on record

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

That seems valid and in line with today's maximum temperature in Hawick since that is the nearest station to there.

The temperature has now dropped a bit and although it's still 29°C here as I write, it actually feels quite cool in comparison, and I'm not sweating as much as I was earlier on.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

noodle doodle
19 July 2022 16:40:49

Claire Nasir from the Met Office has just announced on Channel 5 that Scotland has provisionally had its hottest day on record today with a temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall here in the Scottish Borders, although that has still to be verified and might not be officially confirmed until tomorrow.

However, that is in line with what we had here in Hawick, so that looks like a perfectly valid record to me.

Charterhall is on the main list of stations which is normally found at weatherobs.com, and is one of the stations which I always refer to as one of the nearest stations to where I am here in Hawick, although I haven't been able to find any data for there recently.

Perhaps, that might be the reason why there might be some doubt in that data and why it needs to be verified.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Yay!

It was bound to be hotter than 32.9 somewhere near the border

Carlisle got up to 34.4 (nd might have been higher in-between the hours) and I know the weather station used there is at the ex-RAF facility in the north of the city only 5-6 miles from Gretna across a flat plain near sea-level as the crow flies, so I reckon Gretna would have recorded the same figure +-1C

https://goo.gl/maps/keeiD2uwCuiybA28

Carlisle used to belong to Scotland so we can just claim it directly too

 

Ally Pally Snowman
19 July 2022 16:44:18

34.8c in Charterhall has made it Scotland's hottest day on record

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Only Northern Ireland misses out on its record then.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Quantum
19 July 2022 16:45:10

I mean credit to Brian for calling the temperature as being somewhere between 39.5 and 40.5

I can't even really take credit for my 40.2C prediction in the competition thread. I just forgot to change it, I would have gone higher.

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

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NDunwell
19 July 2022 16:46:16

I think the sea breeze screwed us.

The hot land caused winds to become more easterly near the coast, while the front caused westerly winds further west. The result was a convergence zone which not only promoted cloud development but ascent that mixed some of the hotter air out of the boundary layer.

The GFS didn't pick up on this convergence zone, and while the UKV did it was further north in North Yorkshire.

 

I think it's mightily impressive for a small island. 40 was always a huge step yet it has been breached and that relates to a warming world.

However i think the huge increases modelled earlier are unlikely. Whilst i don't doubt 42 - 45+C isn't possible with some model runs showing them recently it does take a real aligning of all variables and probably is a 1/1000 year event such as the Canadian heatwave. Even more so in our climate where we are so close to the sea and not large land mass


Nick

Ruislip (2 miles from the Northolt recording station)

John p
19 July 2022 16:48:25

I mean credit to Brian for calling the temperature as being somewhere between 39.5 and 40.5

I can't even really take credit for my 40.2C prediction in the competition thread. I just forgot to change it, I would have gone higher.

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

I got it bang on 40.3 but went for Cambridge, fingers crossed for the Botanical gardens figure. 


Camberley, Surrey
Zubzero
19 July 2022 16:50:36

 

No, just the Botanic Garden, Cambridge NIAB is in the nearby village of Histon and in 2019 measured 0.5C below the Botanic Garden's record of 38.7, so if the same happens again the Botanic Garden would give 40.4C.

Originally Posted by: james 

I thought the weather station was near huntingdon Road and not the farm near Impington/Histon only a mile or so difference anyway 

Long wait to see what botanical gardens show in the morning.

Quantum
19 July 2022 16:52:13

So are we just waiting for Cambridge?

Is there no chance of a lincolnshire site getting upgraded?


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

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John p
19 July 2022 16:53:27
Moderate rain here, feels lovely!
Camberley, Surrey
ozone_aurora
19 July 2022 16:53:40

According to the Weather App, Sheffield topped 40 C. Certainly felt very hot but strangely not oppressively so; must be very dry air. Felt strange to have gusty winds, too, it certainly felt like being in Australia. 

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