tallyho_83
16 August 2020 00:22:15
Death Valley, California could break records tomorrow with temperatures reaching 53°C that's 128°F - Truly astonishing heat, How do people live in these conditions?!

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/death-valley/92384/daily-weather-forecast/2258469?day=1 

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bledur
16 August 2020 08:21:40

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Death Valley, California could break records tomorrow with temperatures reaching 53°C that's 128°F - Truly astonishing heat, How do people live in these conditions?!

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/death-valley/92384/daily-weather-forecast/2258469?day=1


 Not many people live in Death Valley, well not when i was there. Temps drop remarkedly as you get out of that area. Hot enough for me in the central valley when i was working there with temps in the low 100,s. Must have been tough before air con

Gavin D
16 August 2020 16:01:59

Friday 21 Aug - Sunday 30 Aug


The beginning of this period is likely to be generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, which could potentially become heavy in places. Some isolated thunderstorms are possible, though these will not be as severe as recent days. It will become windier than of late, especially in the south and west of the UK where there is also a risk of gales. Temperatures should start the period rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures will likely fall away through the last weekend in August, becoming rather cool for many northern and western areas of the UK. This drop in temperatures will be accompanied by strong north-westerly winds.


Monday 31 Aug - Monday 14 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Jiries
16 August 2020 17:26:47

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Death Valley, California could break records tomorrow with temperatures reaching 53°C that's 128°F - Truly astonishing heat, How do people live in these conditions?!

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/death-valley/92384/daily-weather-forecast/2258469?day=1


Will be watching that closely and was 52C 126F yesterday and 36C 96F this morning.  Was 35C 94F the night before.  I would definitely invest a weather station if i was living there, far more interesting than here after seeing a cloudy heatwave follow by cloudy break down with general ran really waste of money to buy one for here.  

redmoons
17 August 2020 13:24:53

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


Will be watching that closely and was 52C 126F yesterday and 36C 96F this morning.  Was 35C 94F the night before.  I would definitely invest a weather station if i was living there, far more interesting than here after seeing a cloudy heatwave follow by cloudy break down with general ran really waste of money to buy one for here.  



 


130F yesterday - https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/08/16/death-valley-heat-record/


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Watford
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tallyho_83
17 August 2020 13:34:53
'Highest temperature on Earth' as Death Valley, US hits 54.4C

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53788018 


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Gavin D
17 August 2020 14:15:43

Friday 21 Aug - Sunday 30 Aug


The beginning of this period is likely to be generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, which could potentially become heavy in places. Some isolated thunderstorms are possible, though these will not be as severe as recent days. It will become windier than of late, especially in the south and west of the UK where there is also a risk of gales. Temperatures should start the period rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures will likely fall away through the last weekend in August, becoming rather cool for many northern and western areas of the UK. This drop in temperatures will be accompanied by strong north-westerly winds.


Monday 31 Aug - Monday 14 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
18 August 2020 14:21:19

Sunday 23 Aug - Tuesday 1 Sep


The beginning of next week is likely to be generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, which could potentially become heavy in places. Some isolated thunderstorms are possible, though these will not be as severe as recent days. It will continue to be rather windy to begin with, especially in the south and west of the UK where there is also a risk of gales, though winds should generally ease by next weekend. Temperatures should start the period rather warm for many, despite the spells of unsettled weather. However, temperatures will likely fall away through the last weekend in August, becoming rather cool for many northern and western areas of the UK. This drop-in temperatures will be accompanied by strong northwesterly winds.


Wednesday 2 Sep - Wednesday 16 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
19 August 2020 01:01:33

Thought this was quite interesting re winter forecast and what went wrong - for the US but also Europe and remember Moscow had it's mildest winter ever recorded!?


 


https://youtu.be/1EWJktAQKyg


 


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johncs2016
19 August 2020 09:05:33

I'm not sure where the best place is to post this, but I have just noticed that the latest incoming weather system has been officially named as Storm Ellen by Met Eireann, despite the fact that it has been thought to contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle.

Now, I had thought that if a system was the remnants of a tropical storm/hurricane or contained the remnants of that, such a system couldn't then be renamed by anyone else which would therefore result in it retaining the original name which was given to it by the US National Hurricane Service.

Therefore, the fact that this storm system has now been officially named by Met Eireann means that it may well, not actually contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle as we first thought, othwise we would no doubt just be referring to it as ex-Tropical Storm Kyle, rather than Storm Ellen (which now looks like being the final named storm from last year's list, as it will soon be time for this year's list of storm names to be released by the Met Office and Met Eireann).


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
lanky
19 August 2020 09:15:39

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


I'm not sure where the best place is to post this, but I have just noticed that the latest incoming weather system has been officially named as Storm Ellen by Met Eireann, despite the fact that it has been thought to contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle.

Now, I had thought that if a system was the remnants of a tropical storm/hurricane or contained the remnants of that, such a system couldn't then be renamed by anyone else which would therefore result in it retaining the original name which was given to it by the US National Hurricane Service.

Therefore, the fact that this storm system has now been officially named by Met Eireann means that it may well, not actually contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle as we first thought, othwise we would no doubt just be referring to it as ex-Tropical Storm Kyle, rather than Storm Ellen (which now looks like being the final named storm from last year's list, as it will soon be time for this year's list of storm names to be released by the Met Office and Met Eireann).



I wondered about that as well.


On the Atlantic chart with an animated time lapse that is used by the BBC on their forecasts, it looked to me as though a new centre developed further east of Kyle but within the same general circulation (i.e. a broad low pressure with 2 centres) and that the new centre now called Ellen became much more dominant and with a tighter circulation. Presumably that is why they named it twice


I agree with your sentiment though and should have kept it all as "Kyle" for simplicity


 


Martin
Richmond, Surrey
Gandalf The White
19 August 2020 09:17:10

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


I'm not sure where the best place is to post this, but I have just noticed that the latest incoming weather system has been officially named as Storm Ellen by Met Eireann, despite the fact that it has been thought to contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle.

Now, I had thought that if a system was the remnants of a tropical storm/hurricane or contained the remnants of that, such a system couldn't then be renamed by anyone else which would therefore result in it retaining the original name which was given to it by the US National Hurricane Service.

Therefore, the fact that this storm system has now been officially named by Met Eireann means that it may well, not actually contain the remnants of Tropical Storm Kyle as we first thought, othwise we would no doubt just be referring to it as ex-Tropical Storm Kyle, rather than Storm Ellen (which now looks like being the final named storm from last year's list, as it will soon be time for this year's list of storm names to be released by the Met Office and Met Eireann).



I think the point is, as you say, that 'it contains the remnants of TS Kyle'; it started as a normal Atlantic depression.


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johncs2016
19 August 2020 10:11:36

Originally Posted by: lanky 


 


I wondered about that as well.


On the Atlantic chart with an animated time lapse that is used by the BBC on their forecasts, it looked to me as though a new centre developed further east of Kyle but within the same general circulation (i.e. a broad low pressure with 2 centres) and that the new centre now called Ellen became much more dominant and with a tighter circulation. Presumably that is why they named it twice


I agree with your sentiment though and should have kept it all as "Kyle" for simplicity


 



Another point to be kept in mind here though is that regardless of how this storm should have or shouldn't been named, this is now the third year in a row where we have had an actual named storm during the summer with two of those being named under the current Met Office/Met Eireann system (the other one was Storm Hector in June 2018).


Yet at the time when this storm naming system first came into effect back in 2015, these named storms were thought to be something which would only really occur during the autumn or winter. However, the fact that Storm Ellen has now come into play just now, is probably yet another indication that autumn has arrived early in this part of the world, especially since this has happened before this year's list of storm names has even been released be the Met Office and Met Eireann.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Lionel Hutz
19 August 2020 13:36:46

https://www.met.ie/warnings


We now have a red warning for Co. Cork for Storm Ellen. Given that the trees are in full leaf, this one could cause quite alot of damage this evening and tonight. Luckily for Britain, this one is moving South to North so you should miss it at least. While it will affect Scotland, it should be be somewhat weaker by then(and fro NI also).


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Gavin D
19 August 2020 13:43:30

Monday 24 Aug - Wednesday 2 Sep


This period begins generally unsettled with showers and longer spells of rain at times, which could potentially become heavy in places, particularly in the northwest. This will be accompanied by some strong winds, again most prevalent in the northwest. These wet spells will likely be interspersed with dry spells by the end of the first week of this period, mainly in the southeast, though rain bands will still make their way down south from time to time. Temperatures will probably be around normal, though there could be the odd above average day in the south and southeast. By next weekend, conditions look set to remain largely changeable, though most unsettled in the north and west, with the best of any dry and warm weather in the south and east.


Thursday 3 Sep - Thursday 17 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

idj20
19 August 2020 23:28:37

Thought there'd be a dedicated Storm Ellie thread by now, so I have made this post showing the wind speed at 12 am - as per the models . . .


Folkestone Harbour. 
Lionel Hutz
20 August 2020 08:16:39

Originally Posted by: idj20 


Thought there'd be a dedicated Storm Ellie thread by now, so I have made this post showing the wind speed at 12 am - as per the models . . .



Well, it really only seems to have affected RoI hence the lack of a dedicated thread. Luckily for me, my location seems to have missed the worst of it. The mid South coast(Co. Cork) was the most affected area and it moved North from there. There were 200,000 houses without power in the RoI this morning. Given a population here of 5 million, that means that 10% of houses here lost power(assuming half the number of houses compared to people). This was undoubtedly a severe storm for so early in the Autumn. However, I'm not sure that it quite deserved the Red warning given to it.


Presumably, there were no major ill effects from this storm in the UK? 


Edit. The main electricity company in Ireland is saying that this was the third worst storm in recent years in Ireland. So it seems the Red warning may have been justified. We have another warning in place for this evening and overnight, though thankfully, it's only a yellow warning. It's in place for the all Southern and Eastern coastal counties of the RoI(with a similar warning in place for coastal counties of NI).


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Gavin D
20 August 2020 14:19:00

Tuesday 25 Aug - Thursday 3 Sep


The outlook period begins generally unsettled with showers or longer spells of rain affecting many parts of the UK. Some of the rain may be heavy at times and could be accompanied by strong winds, especially around the coast. By the end of next week and into the weekend the wettest and windiest of the weather will probably become confined to the northwest, with the driest and brightest conditions in the southeast. As we move into the first part of September, changeable conditions are likely across the UK with dry and bright days interspersed with periods of wetter and windier weather. Temperatures are set to be close to average for the time of year across most parts.


Friday 4 Sep - Friday 18 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it is likely that conditions will become more changeable with drier and brighter days interspersed with periods of rain and strengthening winds. Temperatures should be around the average for this time of year. Towards the end of this period, there are some tentative signs that high pressure could begin to dominate, especially across the south of the UK, with a return to more settled conditions.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
21 August 2020 14:10:06

Wednesday 26 Aug - Friday 4 Sep


The outlook period begins generally unsettled with strengthening winds accompanied by showers or longer spells of rain across much of the UK. Towards the bank holiday weekend, these spells of rain and strong winds may perhaps become more confined towards northern and eastern areas, with the driest conditions mostly likely in the south. Although, the southwest may see some further spells of wind and rain at times. Temperatures should be near or slightly below the average for this time of year, with a potential for some frost overnight, but otherwise feeling warm in any sunnier spells. Although confidence is low into September, it is likely that the first part will see a transition into a more zonal pattern, with the north unsettled and the south generally drier and warmer.


Saturday 5 Sep - Saturday 19 Sep


Although confidence is low for this period, it likely that the south will see the best of the drier and warmer conditions whilst northern areas, in particular the northwest, will see more unsettled weather. However, it is possible for unsettled conditions or drier spells to spread into all parts of the UK at times. Temperatures should be around the average, with a potential for some warmer spells in southern and eastern areas.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
22 August 2020 01:28:48

Thanks to AccuWeather:


The European Autumn forecast has been published! - 'Tropical Rainstorm Threats' for Autumn. The word Tropical sounds interesting! - Never knew the UK would have a threat of 'TROPICAL STORM'  Maybe post tropical depression but TROPICAL STORM!? - I think not.



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