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superteacher
09 August 2020 19:43:37
Is the line of mid-level cloud moving across the south a weak front, because it seems to be introducing more humid air?
Rob K
09 August 2020 20:18:58
Met tweet now going for 36, 36, 36, 33 maxima from tomorrow although Heathrow on the website still saying 36, 37, 37 albeit with more cloud/rain.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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TimS
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09 August 2020 20:23:42
So heatwave degree days up to day 4 of this event are 15.1.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Gusty
09 August 2020 20:24:13

I am very grateful to have a nice cool 19c sea to swim in for 30 minutes each evening after a day of 30+ temperatures. 


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Heavy Weather 2013
09 August 2020 20:26:03

I am very grateful to have a nice cool 19c sea to swim in for 30 minutes each evening after a day of 30+ temperatures. 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

 

That sounds like heaven right about now.


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

The Beast from the East
09 August 2020 20:55:51
Surely it’s time for a level 4 alert. Several nights of sustained sleep deprivation and body stress for the elderly and those with breathing issues
Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Rob K
09 August 2020 22:14:44

GFS 18Z has maxima of 33, 35, 35, 32, 27 for Monday to Friday. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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TimS
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09 August 2020 22:30:02

Surely it’s time for a level 4 alert. Several nights of sustained sleep deprivation and body stress for the elderly and those with breathing issues

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

I agree. Last year’s relatively short lived record heatwave seems to have triggered 900 excess deaths. All those elderly people who’ve been kept in their rooms in care homes for weeks for fear of infection, and haven’t seen family and friends, are going to be pretty vulnerable.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Heavy Weather 2013
10 August 2020 05:46:41
Much warmer starting point today. Four degrees up on yesterday in some places.

35-36C seems the order of the day. Can we squeeze a 37C?

Hopefully Darren can report that this cool layer we had yesterday isn’t there today.


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

Justin W
10 August 2020 05:48:51

Much warmer starting point today. Four degrees up on yesterday in some places.

35-36C seems the order of the day. Can we squeeze a 37C?

Hopefully Darren can report that this cool layer we had yesterday isn’t there today.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Jeez. What is wrong with you people? This is a horror show.


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Heavy Weather 2013
10 August 2020 05:49:53

 

Jeez. What is wrong with you people? This is a horror show.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 

My house is like an oven. But when your chasing a record, you have the grin and bare it 🤣🤣


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

superteacher
10 August 2020 05:53:23
Large blob of cloud moving up from France which may affect the S / SE later.
Retron
10 August 2020 06:39:08



Hopefully Darren can report that this cool layer we had yesterday isn’t there today.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

FWIW, it returned last night. It does, however, mix out faster today.

http://meteocentre.com/numerical-weather-prediction/vertical-profile-skew-t.php?lang=en&map=UK&run=18&mod=gfs&stn=London&hh=012

It lessens by 9z, is almost gone by 12z and by 15z there's only a tiny remnant - not enough to impact things.

 


Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
10 August 2020 06:57:22

Large blob of cloud moving up from France which may affect the S / SE later.

Originally Posted by: superteacher 

This heatwave is really rubbish and not proper one due to too much clouds.  No sun here yet and they going for 30C so to order a 30C here need sunny weather from dawn to achieve it.  Was only 26C yesterday as the clouds cleared by 2 pm so lost of 8 hours of warming up from 6am to 2pm.  To see 37C there need to be direct sun rise to the peak point.

xioni2
10 August 2020 06:57:28

FWIW, it returned last night. It does, however, mix out faster today.

http://meteocentre.com/numerical-weather-prediction/vertical-profile-skew-t.php?lang=en&map=UK&run=18&mod=gfs&stn=London&hh=012

It lessens by 9z, is almost gone by 12z and by 15z there's only a tiny remnant - not enough to impact things.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Indeed and also most models show the surface flow turning more SSE during the afternoon, which will help. Still some cloud around, but London should get at least 36C today.

Rob K
10 August 2020 07:07:21

 

Indeed and also most models show the surface flow turning more SSE during the afternoon, which will help. Still some cloud around, but London should get at least 36C today.

Originally Posted by: xioni2 

Models generally only going for 34C today, lower than tomorrow, so I would be surprised. But I remain hopeful. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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superteacher
10 August 2020 07:10:01

 

Models generally only going for 34C today, lower than tomorrow, so I would be surprised. But I remain hopeful. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

If 34 was achieved yesterday, everything today suggests that temps should be higher - unless it’s cloud which has been factored in?

Tim A
10 August 2020 07:12:14

The cool lower layer is definitely affecting these parts. 850HPA temps of 16-17c this afternoon, but highs 25-27c max. Always been forecast that way though, so no expectation of a heatwave here, just some nice warm weather and perhaps thunderstorms.


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TimS
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10 August 2020 07:18:42
35C peak on Arome, so I’m plumping fir that today. Arôme generally seems to be on the money. 36C tomorrow.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Rob K
10 August 2020 07:20:46

 

If 34 was achieved yesterday, everything today suggests that temps should be higher - unless it’s cloud which has been factored in?

Originally Posted by: superteacher 

Yes there is definitely cloud on the models as they show a much less even temp distribution over the coming days, blobs of 30C or below scattered among the 33s to 34s. 

Met Office have gone from 37/37/37 for Heathrow to 36/36/37 and I would expect them to knock another degree or two of those as time goes on. It’s been the pattern every day of this spell so far, with the temps 2-3C below the original estimate. 

I’m hoping we can just scrape 34C every day till Wednesday because AFAIK six consecutive 34C+ days would be a record. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Heavy Weather 2013
10 August 2020 07:22:28

 

Yes there is definitely cloud on the models as they show a much less even temp distribution over the coming days, blobs of 30C or below scattered among the 33s to 34s. 

Met Office have gone from 37/37/37 for Heathrow to 36/36/37 and I would expect them to knock another degree or two of those as time goes on. It’s been the pattern every day of this spell so far, with the temps 2-3C below the original estimate. 

I’m hoping we can just scrape 34C every day till Wednesday because AFAIK six consecutive 34C+ days would be a record. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

It would be a mighty shame if we don’t get a good record during this spell. I don’t know, but I have a feeling about today and Wednesday. 


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

Rob K
10 August 2020 07:24:11

Actually I may be wrong but I think 5 consecutive 34C days would be a record too. Previous best as far as I can see is four (1-4 July 1976)?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Rob K
10 August 2020 08:08:25
Quite a wide temperature range across the UK yesterday with 34.0C the max and 1.5C the minimum. Can't be too far off a record in itself!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Gavin D
10 August 2020 08:14:37

Current watch level: Level 3 - Heatwave Action

Issued at: 08:35 on Mon 10 Aug 2020

There is a 90 % probability of Heat-Health criteria being met between 0900 on Monday and 0900 on Friday in parts of England.

This alert updates that issued at 08:47 Thursday 06 August. The alert has been extended in time for all previously affected regions of England, now extending to Friday 14 August, although this is a more definite end time than in previous issues, as less hot weather looks to become established more generally across England before the weekend. The alert level has increased for West Midlands, as confidence in hot weather and warm nights affecting at least the south of the region has now increased. The alert level in all other regions remains unchanged. This forecast is under daily review, with the most likely change being a possible upgrade in probability for both Midlands regions around midweek, and perhaps a progressive downgrade in probability from the west late in the week.

An update will be issued when the alert level changes in any region. Alerts are issued once a day by 0900 if required and are not subject to amendment in between standard issue times. Note that the details of the forecast weather are valid at the time of issue but may change over the period that an alert remains in force. These details will not be updated here unless the alert level also changes, the latest forecast details can be obtained at the following link: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/#?tab=map

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/heat-health/?tab=heatHealth&season=normal#?tab=heatHealth

 

Quantum
10 August 2020 08:15:10

Quite a wide temperature range across the UK yesterday with 34.0C the max and 1.5C the minimum. Can't be too far off a record in itself!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

In terms of diurnal temperature ranges you are competing with something like -20C on a cold winter night and +13C on the SW side of a warm front.

So maybe a degree or so shy of the record if I had to guess?

I can't imagine a diurnal range much above 33C though.

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

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