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fairweather
29 April 2020 21:20:43

 

 

That was a subgroup, and now I look again it says the result wasn't even statistically significant.

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

I watched Fauci talking about it and he looked like a man who had been wheeled in against his will to try and say something positive about it. He managed to say it reduced the time of recovery by a few days. So hardly doing anything really significant if they were already recovering. I think a "breakthrough" is when something is found to prevent catching it or to stop it from killing you or at least increasing your survival chances.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Saint Snow
29 April 2020 21:21:02

Not sure if anyone has linked this - a paper saying many severe coronavirus patients are vitamin-D deficient.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075838v1

Obviously it's one paper out of many and caution should be taken on interpreting the results, but interesting nonetheless. It's suggesting for example that it might be one of the contributory factors to the large number of severe COVID-19 cases in the African American population (accordingly to the paper 80-90% of African Americans are vitamin-D deficient).

Personal experience - I've been taking vitamin-D supplements since the start of the year. My feeling is that for me, it substantially helps mood during the dark winter months. I don't know if it really affects my cold/flu symptoms (although interestingly I get far fewer colds and allergies since moving to Canada around 11 years ago).

Originally Posted by: pfw 

 

I'm not one for vitamin supplements, but I read some articles on vitamin D boosting the immune system (linked to on here I think) and when shopping in Aldi just before the panic-buying kicked in, I bought a jar for I think less than £2. Figured it can't harm. Been taking them most days now since mid-March. Obviously can't know if they are doing any good, but the theory seems sound.

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

Saint Snow
29 April 2020 21:24:28

 

I watched Fauci talking about it and he looked like a man who had been wheeled in agaginst his will to try and say positive about it. He managed to say it reduced the time of recovery by a few days. So hardly doing anything really significant if they were already recovering. I think a "breakthrough" is when something is something is found to prevent catching it or to stop it from killing you or at least increasing your survival chances.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

 

Yup, short of a vaccine, the best thing we could see developed is a treatment that as soon as early symptoms manifest, you take it and progression into the more serious form of infection is prevented. Would have to have a very available quick-result (within 24 hours) test to go hand in hand with that, though.

That would allow us to get back to normal.

Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

Gandalf The White
29 April 2020 21:32:52

 

 

I'm not one for vitamin supplements, but I read some articles on vitamin D boosting the immune system (linked to on here I think) and when shopping in Aldi just before the panic-buying kicked in, I bought a jar for I think less than £2. Figured it can't harm. Been taking them most days now since mid-March. Obviously can't know if they are doing any good, but the theory seems sound.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Yes, I’ve read the same thing - but AFAIK it’s that the immune system needs Vitamin D to function, not that it ‘boosts’ it - but maybe that’s just shorthand.

Vitamin D supplements are useful in the winter when sunshine and being outside are largely absent.

Location: South Cambridgeshire

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52.0N 0.1E



Gandalf The White
29 April 2020 21:36:43

 

 

That was a subgroup, and now I look again it says the result wasn't even statistically significant.

 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

It wasn’t a subgroup, it was one group because another got a placebo.  You make it sound flawed when it wasn’t.

The conclusion says the recovery time was reduced but a bigger trial is needed. That’s not the language you’d use if the result wasn’t worth following up.

Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



fairweather
29 April 2020 21:40:28

United States

1.06M

119K

60,823

Spain

213K

109K

24,275

Italy

204K

71,252

27,682

United Kingdom

165K

-

26,097

Germany

161K

113K

6,401

France

128K

48,228

24,087

Turkey

118K

44,022

3,081

Russia

99,399

10,286

972

Iran

93,657

73,791

5,957

 

We talk about China's figures being dodgy but Russia - come on !

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Maunder Minimum
29 April 2020 21:44:44

 

Fair enough. Then perhaps they should stop asking members of the CBI on when they are discussing business prospects? Conflict of interests.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Nothing wrong with asking people on who have political affiliations, provided the public is informed. Panorama was a massive fail this week, because it failed to provide the audience with that information.

 

New world order coming.
Darren S
29 April 2020 22:06:51

The Top 40 English Local Authorities, ordered by cases per head of population (click to view bigger)

About a month ago, the entire Top 15, and 25 out of the Top 27 were all London boroughs. Now only 4 of the Top 10 are in London, and 3 of the Top 5 are in the Urban North East of England.

Darren

Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)

South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:

2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm

fairweather
29 April 2020 23:25:48

If this is true could be the major anti-body breakthrough we've been waiting for:-

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-antibody-test-99-per-120300172.html

 

P.S  People go to bed very early on here don't they! 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gandalf The White
29 April 2020 23:29:02

If this is true could be the major anti-body breakthrough we've been waiting for:-

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-antibody-test-99-per-120300172.html

 

P.S  People go to bed very early on here don't they! 

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

That’s encouraging.

Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



fairweather
29 April 2020 23:58:09

The Top 40 English Local Authorities, ordered by cases per head of population (click to view bigger)

About a month ago, the entire Top 15, and 25 out of the Top 27 were all London boroughs. Now only 4 of the Top 10 are in London, and 3 of the Top 5 are in the Urban North East of England.

Originally Posted by: Darren S 

In most places worldwide it seems to spread out from epicentres, peak there later and be somewhat diluted.

S.Essex, 42m ASL

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