interesting breakdown of the latest 12 UK cases all travel related 8 from Italy and one each from Japan, Singapore,  Iran and Germany.  UK total now 51

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Yes, thanks to the 21,000 cuts from YOUR bloody government

And yes, I know they won the election, so the plebs cannot complain. 

In fact, feck em, this country deserves everthing thats coming to it. Either this or Brexit. Whichever does most damage

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

The encouraging thing is that none of those cases acquired the infection locally.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

France is reporting 13 today. A good day for them if that figure is up to date. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Some interesting stuff there ,Brian, especially the  take on demographics and analysis of  who it has killed.

I also note the growing notion that the virus is  materially changing as it spreads to different parts of the world.  Part of me wonders if we are picking up, related, existing, viruses with the screening.  Certainly the deaths reported to date could easily be attributed to seasonal colds and flu  if we hadn't  become sensitised to the Chinese  outbreak, especially given the Italian demographics .

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

Boycott Carex

The whole government is working closely together to tackle COVID-19. We are taking firm action to support your families, your businesses and the public services on which you rely.

We can all help fight this virus by washing our hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. pic.twitter.com/9q6CJeKKLa

— Rishi Sunak (@RishiSunak) March 3, 2020

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Decline in coronavirus cases in China is "real," WHO official says

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

Yes, wont be long now before the media circus gets bored and moves on. This story is going to rumble on all year, that doesn't fit the 24 hour news cycle

We need another "superspreader" 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Good news if this turns out to be true


Decline in coronavirus cases in China is "real," WHO official says

The World Health Organization has seen a steady decline in novel coronavirus cases in China since the end of January, including in Hubei province and the city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak.

“We questioned these numbers while we were in China, we scrutinized this data and we believe that this decline is real,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, technical lead of the World Health Organization’s Health Emergencies Programme, said during a press briefing on Tuesday.
She said they believe this because of the extent of case finding, contact tracing and testing among other surveillance systems.

Van Kerkhove did not say whether the virus has peaked in China.

“We’ve seen the comprehensive measures that China has taken and … we believe that that has had an impact on changing the natural trajectory of the outbreak in China,” she said. “We believe that this is possible in other countries.”

For countries other than China – including Italy, Iran and Korea – that means having an aggressive approach to looking for contacts, social distancing, hand washing, respiratory etiquette and readying systems, she said.

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

That had also crossed my mind. I didn't want to float the idea because a) my medical knowledge is next to zilch b) I didn't want to be accused of "complacency" 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Wrt today it is up to Italy to save their bacon. A big increase is obviously possible. We'll see soon. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Remember how the Chinese data was being rubbished by some people in this thread a few days ago. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Italy have reported 466 new cases and 27 new deaths

Total 2,502

79 deaths

Yesterday they reported 340 new cases

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Something odd about these figures. Is Italy testing enough. The deaths and cases doesn’t appear at face value to add up

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Remember how the Chinese data was being rubbished by some people in this thread a few days ago. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

WHO says the mortality is about 3.4%. Note that they also claim that there is no resevoir of 'mild cases' to bring the eventual number down.

If it is 3.4% then that would be something like 20-60x more dangerous than seasonal flu.

We also know it's 2-5x more contagious.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Very different to the 1% the UK Chief Medical Officer said today. The very low if any mild cases also goes against UK and others thinking.  Still so much we don't know.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Very different to the 1% the UK Chief Medical Officer said today. The very low if any mild cases also goes against UK and others thinking.  Still so much we don't know. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

I said earlier today that I was surprised Whitty was prepared to say that. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze