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David M Porter
04 February 2019 17:49:54

Having made my comment above about the GFS 12z op, UKMO at 144hrs looks kind of interesting:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ukm&var=1&run=12&time=144&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref

A lot at the moment seems to be hanging on how much, if at all, the ridge from the Azroes High builds northwards/north-eastwards early next week. If it does build northwards to any meaningul extent then things could get interesting, but let's see what the runs indicate during the rest of this week/

 


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JACKO4EVER
04 February 2019 18:04:42

 

GFS 12z doesn't look that great even in deepest FI, from what I can see.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

I was talking from a mildo perspective 🤗

 

 

Brian Gaze
04 February 2019 18:05:25

GEFS12z continue looking average to mild or very mild for much of the next 16 days.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gefs.aspx?run=na&lg=tmp2mmax&lglocation=london&charthour=06&chartname=ps_500hpa&chartregion=na-region&p=1&charttag=PS%20500hPa%20(GPDM)

 


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tallyho_83
04 February 2019 18:07:30

12Z ENSEMBLE CHART FOR London: - A lot of scatter: But some exceptionally mild if not warm runs here!

 


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marco 79
04 February 2019 18:15:23
Slight trend downwards.....

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/new.nao_index_ensm.html 


Home : Mid Leicestershire ...135m ASL
doctormog
04 February 2019 18:32:36
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_144_1.png 

(And that is ignoring the encroaching-10°C t850s on the GFSP run on Sunday). Either proper cold or decent pleasant mildness please.


DPower
04 February 2019 18:49:12
Chalk and cheese northern hemisphere profile between UKMO and ECM at t144. More runs needed, and straws.
Arcus
04 February 2019 19:15:09

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_144_1.png 

(And that is ignoring the encroaching-10°C t850s on the GFSP run on Sunday). Either proper cold or decent pleasant mildness please.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Yes, the properly mild stuff keeps getting pushed back into the far reaches of FI it seems. Those bumps in the road are becoming knobs, nay minor swellings, as time goes on..


Ben,

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nsrobins
04 February 2019 19:50:05

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_144_1.png 

(And that is ignoring the encroaching-10°C t850s on the GFSP run on Sunday). Either proper cold or decent pleasant mildness please.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Just landed at Dyce and it feels positively tropical 😂😉


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doctormog
04 February 2019 19:56:29

 

Just landed at Dyce and it feels positively tropical 😂😉

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Commiserations/congratulations*

*Delete as appropriate 

You should have come up over the weekend . Vaguely on topic, the models paint a rather uninteresting picture over the next few days if you are up for a while?


Whether Idle
04 February 2019 20:33:53

I think Im interpreting this right: ECM ensemble variations in SLP indicate that there is clearly much uncertainty as to SLP between Scotland and Iceland at day 10:


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ballamar
04 February 2019 21:27:31
I sense optimism is lacking in the thread - remember 2018 winter started end Feb!! Anyway been fun seeing so many fantastic charts just out of touching distance. Pub run to cheer us up
Whether Idle
04 February 2019 22:04:45

I sense optimism is lacking in the thread - remember 2018 winter started end Feb!! Anyway been fun seeing so many fantastic charts just out of touching distance. Pub run to cheer us up

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

These are the best times - less BS!  Meanwhile NAVGEM takes the Met O style 144 solution forward to 180hrs:


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ballamar
04 February 2019 22:18:28

 

These are the best times - less BS!  Meanwhile NAVGEM takes the Met O style 144 solution forward to 180hrs:

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

 

who knows but 3 weeks until I am looking forward to some spring warmth but I can guess the pattern that will dominate March and April!! Greenland high anyone

Whether Idle
04 February 2019 22:25:55

 

 

who knows but 3 weeks until I am looking forward to some spring warmth but I can guess the pattern that will dominate March and April!! Greenland high anyone

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

A typical late winter early spring pattern...anyhow, the 18z is rolling out with some changes in ridge trough patterns upstream, how these manifest later in the run for us is questionable, I don't expect much of a shift over-all though


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
tallyho_83
05 February 2019 00:09:37

I see the 18z Op run is persistently trying to build that all important ridge to Scandinavia or to our north but it keeps getting toppled over and flattened and then has another go and fails. WHat is persistent in most models is the Hp to the SE of Greenland and a weak ridge over Iceland and a brief northerly at +144

So a slack brief northerly with cross-model agreement at 144?

Also the WEtterzerntrale ensembles are not updating tonight? anyone know why? - So had to use Brian's two chart.

GFS 0P run:

Para:

UKMO:

GEM:

ECM:


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roadrunnerajn
05 February 2019 07:02:06

Still the possibility for some surprise snow fall on Saturday. If that low actually developes over the midlands as the gfs is showing and it has some heavy precipitation imbedded in it any high ground could see wet snow.
After that a cool NNW airflow for Sunday into Monday giving a few wintery showers then..........Spring!!!


Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic. 80m asl
marco 79
05 February 2019 07:15:00
Para gives a stormy solution this weekend with the low pressure crossing the UK.....after that HP builds in giving quite cold nights ....
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Russwirral
05 February 2019 09:22:13

Still the possibility for some surprise snow fall on Saturday. If that low actually developes over the midlands as the gfs is showing and it has some heavy precipitation imbedded in it any high ground could see wet snow.
After that a cool NNW airflow for Sunday into Monday giving a few wintery showers then..........Spring!!!

Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 

 

yeh, unusual to see such a feature consistently appear on the charts from this far out.  things may change, but this presents an excellent opportunity for a significant amount of snow to some places.

 

Eyes focused on this for now.


Rob K
05 February 2019 11:01:35

Sunday looking more prone for snow in the south on the GFSP. This will change to the 6Z shortly but some lying snow showing up for central southern parts, Chilterns etc.

 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Ally Pally Snowman
05 February 2019 11:09:02

Sunday looking more prone for snow in the south on the GFSP. This will change to the 6Z shortly but some lying snow showing up for central southern parts, Chilterns etc.

 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

 

Not again on the edge again here arrrgggghhhhh!!!

 

 

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
squish
05 February 2019 11:12:42
The NASA solution is interesting today!

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/geos/runs/2019020500/geosnh-0-204.png?05-11 


D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
Rob K
05 February 2019 11:59:34

 

 

Not again on the edge again here arrrgggghhhhh!!!

 

 

 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

6Z para shifts the main snow risk to the Midlands and Wales

 

 

Op run not really interested although does give a dusting to Wales and the north Midlands.

 

Sunday's snow risk is creeping up on the GEFS, though, with 25% of runs now showing snow for London:

 

Or in TWO snow row terms:


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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idj20
05 February 2019 12:05:31

 

 

yeh, unusual to see such a feature consistently appear on the charts from this far out.  things may change, but this presents an excellent opportunity for a significant amount of snow to some places.

 

Eyes focused on this for now.

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 



Sadly, that looks like giving Southern England 24 hours worth of Force 8 SW gales, occasionally touching f 10 (at night too) over the weekend.


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Caz
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05 February 2019 12:25:09

 

6Z para shifts the main snow risk to the Midlands and Wales

 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

That could give me my fist snow of the winter but I won’t hold my breath!  


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