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Brian Gaze
30 January 2019 11:34:37

Next week's prospects remain uncertain. Most of the data points towards milder conditions but the GFS 06z brings in a cold easterly.

 

 


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Snow Hoper
30 January 2019 11:50:20

Next week's prospects remain uncertain. Most of the data points towards milder conditions but the GFS 06z brings in a cold easterly.

 

 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Unfortunately a bit of an outlier. The GFS P develops a SH in FI and creates a battleground with us on the wrong side. It does make inroads later on, but too far out, and just another option on the table.


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soperman
30 January 2019 12:17:06

After watching Gav's excellent video and now with the GFS 06Z - right now it all appears quite straightforward:

Positive vs Negatvive NAO

Atlantic vs The Beast

ECM vs GFS

Could it be any clearer


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Rob K
30 January 2019 12:26:59
The milder-than average spell on the GFS ensembles has been moderated to only marginally above average due to the colder cluster that includes the op run. Then from the beginning of next week the GEFS mean is extremely close to the long term average right to the end of the run.

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 


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soperman
30 January 2019 13:41:28

The milder-than average spell on the GFS ensembles has been moderated to only marginally above average due to the colder cluster that includes the op run. Then from the beginning of next week the GEFS mean is extremely close to the long term average right to the end of the run.
http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

 

Yep. With a significant backtrack from UK Met today, those that get it should enjoy tomorrow's snowfall - it looks like the last for quite a while........unless the Atlantic fails to push through next week.

GEM is super progressive and ECM not far off.

Nothing like cold Westerlies 


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JACKO4EVER
30 January 2019 14:16:31

The milder-than average spell on the GFS ensembles has been moderated to only marginally above average due to the colder cluster that includes the op run. Then from the beginning of next week the GEFS mean is extremely close to the long term average right to the end of the run.
http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

yes it looks like cool westerlies may well be the order of the day interspersed with the odd colder day here and there.

It will be very interesting to see the GLOSEA output for Spring as it seems to have been somewhat behind the ball this winter so far. Not being a fan of the model I haven’t taken much notice of it, but with the inevitable back track by MetO in the extended outlook today it’s peaked my interest 

sunnyramsgate
30 January 2019 16:16:12
There will be a flip tomorrow just to get you all excited again
Rob K
30 January 2019 16:41:01
Scandi high trying to do its thing on the 12Z GFS but gets squeezed out by the Atlantic leaving us in no-mans land again.
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jhall
30 January 2019 16:53:48

Not for the first time, GFS teases us with something interesting right at the end of FI.


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Ally Pally Snowman
30 January 2019 16:54:04

Looks like the GEM is leading the way from the 12s. 


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Arcus
30 January 2019 16:55:58

Looks like the GEM is leading the way from the 12s. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Scandi High - but GEM manages to deliver a Creasterly from it.


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soperman
30 January 2019 16:58:36

Yep. We should be salivating about a 1040 high in a near perfect position in Western Scandi! 

Alas the jet pumps up the high and this combined with the US Eastern seaboard lows tracking unchecked by the lack of any Greenie high eventually smash the block.

In the meantime average temps for most of the UK.

 


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Arcus
30 January 2019 17:05:51
The variations in the GEFS at T+120 are quite something.
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Maunder Minimum
30 January 2019 17:10:41

Yep. We should be salivating about a 1040 high in a near perfect position in Western Scandi! 

Alas the jet pumps up the high and this combined with the US Eastern seaboard lows tracking unchecked by the lack of any Greenie high eventually smash the block.

In the meantime average temps for most of the UK.

 

Originally Posted by: soperman 

Same old story - CONUS gets all the fun and destroys any chances on this side of the Pond.

We need a mild USA for the UK to get cold. Very rare for both USA and Europe to be in the freezer at the same time.


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JACKO4EVER
30 January 2019 17:47:32
With brutal cold into the States it could be quite a task getting anything of real note to our shores.

In the meantime some quite low minima tonight I would have thought and snow for some on Thursday into Friday so all is not lost.

Gavin D
30 January 2019 18:48:48

Maybe something a bit more typical for a UK winter next week with an alternating pattern between some cooler and milder days

12z ECM

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roadrunnerajn
30 January 2019 19:03:41
It looks like the long awaited effects of the split polar vortex are now being felt....

...in the Midwest of the USA and eastern Siberia..


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Gavin D
30 January 2019 19:22:16

An unsettled picture from UKMO extended with plenty of precipitation about

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Gavin D
30 January 2019 19:23:32

It looks like the long awaited effects of the split polar vortex are now being felt....
...in the Midwest of the USA and eastern Siberia..

Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 

 

Hopefully it'll wake a few up on various forums and remind them that an SSW doesn't guarantee cold and snow for the UK ala Feb and March 18

JACKO4EVER
30 January 2019 19:25:14
Very quiet in here tonight, possibly due to the model output
Ally Pally Snowman
30 January 2019 19:26:17

Even by American standards the extreme fluctuation is temperature is insane parts of the Midwest go from -35c 850s to +12c in 3 days.

 


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cultman1
30 January 2019 19:28:00
maybe not.... it is not going to be particularly mild next week just around average for February if everything verifies..... and further down into February I would not be a at all surprised if we have another proper cold spell. We are still in winter......
The Beast from the East
30 January 2019 19:51:22

ECM day 10 mean looks blocked

 


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White Meadows
30 January 2019 19:53:18
Plenty of pace gathering now to indicate a much milder February than hoped for. This has been signalled at for a while at least with slim chances of the famed east winds lurking. Now that looks pretty much consigned to the end of the rainbow.

It’s been like chasing a lost cause for many all winter, you couldn’t even call it the one that got away as true cold never was within sight.

2m temps for London show a gradual rise throughout next month with little fluctuation... just dull, neither cold or mild - just where no one wants to be:

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT2_London_ens.png 

It’s going to feel like a long boring wait til spring.

David M Porter
30 January 2019 20:08:38

ECM day 10 mean looks blocked

 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

And it doesn't look that mild to me either, although obviously somewhat milder than it is presently.

IMO, all we can say with anything approaching reasonable confidence right now is that next week looks like being a bit milder at least, although the exact details still need to be pinned down. Beyond that, who knows, but for me it would take a very brave person to nake a call either way as to what happens later in Feb when we will only be entering the start of that month this Friday.


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