Interesting that The Pentlands have had no snow cover at all this winter and the Lake District mountains have had only a couple of dustings over 750m.
Hopefully that's all about to change 👍

I wouldn't be too certain about that.

I mean, it's not as though I'm actually looking for any sort of extreme weather to occur here. All that I am therefore asking for, is just something to actually happen even if that is something as trivial as a weather front which moves through and brings us a bit of actual recorded rainfall, even if that isn't all that much.

Anything at all just now would least break the monotony a bit and yet, it is as though even that is been too much to ask for these days as we are constantly having to wake up every single morning to that that same old borefest which we have been seeing for several months now, where there is never anything which is even remotely interesting in terms of our weather, actually happening (it's as though we just don't get actual weather any more which is actually very sad because it is that unpredictability of the weather at any given time which used to make it interesting).

This "winter" needs putting out of it's misery once and for all. Utterly execrable and keeps plumbing new depths. Temperature reached a ridiculous 12C overnight accompanied by the vile howling rattling wind that once again considerably disturbed my sleep 

It's another awful day with the temperature lower than during the night, the horrible wind continuing to rattle away and stupid pointless drizzle showers that aren't enough to register but, combined with the wind, more than enough to render going outside an unpleasant experience.

Can't wait until this putrid dead and worthless season is over, the sun actually gets some strength, it's light in the morning and things start growing again. 

This "winter" needs putting out of it's misery once and for all. Utterly execrable and keeps plumbing new depths. Temperature reached a ridiculous 12C overnight accompanied by the vile howling rattling wind that once again considerably disturbed my sleep 

It's another awful day with the temperature lower than during the night, the horrible wind continuing to rattle away and stupid pointless drizzle showers that aren't enough to register but, combined with the wind, more than enough to render going outside an unpleasant experience.

Can't wait until this putrid dead and worthless season is over, the sun actually gets some strength, it's light in the morning and things start growing again. 

What about the -6C you had on Jan 3rd?

 It’s beyond desperate and about as enjoyable as being tied up in the basement of a sterile tower block in the middle of Stalingrad with only a daily bowl of gruel to live on

I was having such a crappy Sunday until I read your post - thanks for cheering me up Richard - hilarious) 

Another rubbish day here in Exeter been 10c all day with drizzle and cloud, more doom n gloom! 9.5c now ...but what is this!? It's a pile of BS this weather. Come on! 

How patient do we have to be to see anything decent? It's the middle of January - and not only have we seen no snow but not even any sleet or frost this year either been the worse winter since I can remember ever. We are half way through winter by 15th Jan and many parts have yet to see a frost let alone snow or do we have to go back to 26th November 2018 when it was -3c or 27th October 2018 when temperatures fell to -3.5c here in Exeter that morning?! Lowest this winter still stands at -1.5c. Rubbish!

At least in the winter of 2015/16 we had some decent frosts and transient hail/sleet etc.

Looking at the models and the GFS's failure to produce anything blocked in OP runs i would really make the best of this cooler spell from mid week.  

The Irony is that one forecaster said feeling colder in the northerly wind and then puts temperatures of +9c on the map by Thursday which is still above average for Jan by night let alone by day.

Gosh! What a horrible January blues month this is turning out to be? SO much snow in many other places like Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Hungary, Greece, Sicily, Cyprus, Turkey, Albania, Croatia, Serbia, Romania - all of continental Europe except the UK then other side of the Atlantic heavy snow across the eastern seaboard - seems like it's just the UK is missing out on all the 'fun' .

If it can go wrong it will and looks like it will go wrong.

Even the weather is really punishing us for BREXIT. - Thus, giving all of continental Europe the cold and snow except the UK.

This is becoming a very lonely isolated UK now - we never seem to fit in!!

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The weather is really punishing us for BREXIT. If it can go wrong it will!

This is becoming a very lonely isolated UK now!!

The UK in general, voted for Brexit but it's just a pity that we can't likewise, vote for whatever type of weather that we want and get from that, the type of weather which the majority of people in the UK have voted for.

With the ongoing lack of rainfall in these parts these days as well, I'm wondering what the odds will be of Britain entering a no deal Brexit with on-going food shortages arising from that and then on top of that, 1976-esque widespread hosepipe bans and water shortages later on this year due to that continued lack of rainfall.

 

The UK in general, voted for Brexit but it's just a pity that we can't likewise, vote for whatever type of weather that we want and get from that, the type of weather which the majority of people in the UK have voted for.

With the ongoing lack of rainfall in these parts these days as well, I'm wondering what the odds will be of Britain entering a no deal Brexit with on-going food shortages arising from that and then on top of that, 1976-esque widespread hosepipe bans and water shortages later on this year due to that continued lack of rainfall.

 

True but for the south west - December was actually quite a wet month actually! It's the East that has been drier. What's apparent for January is the persistent cloudy overcast days with little sun and borefest of a climate, drizzle and mild and damp!? 10c by night 9c by day etc little variation between the daytime and night time temps etc. 

 

The UK in general, voted for Brexit but it's just a pity that we can't likewise, vote for whatever type of weather that we want and get from that, the type of weather which the majority of people in the UK have voted for.

With the ongoing lack of rainfall in these parts these days as well, I'm wondering what the odds will be of Britain entering a no deal Brexit with on-going food shortages arising from that and then on top of that, 1976-esque widespread hosepipe bans and water shortages later on this year due to that continued lack of rainfall.

 

Don't worry- CFS already signalling the annual August wash out 

It's like there's two guarantees these days- cold March, wet August

It's the hope that kills you 

I think we just have to accept that the 2012 record losses in the Arctic basin signalled an end of the 'washout summers' trough and its swapping out for dominant HP systems in its place?

In 09/10 we were in the firing line for what central/southern europe is currently seeing but the positioning of the Jet has now wiggled east under the energy of the open water Arctic.

The messing with the 10 hpa polar night Jet is now an annual event with my prediction of a 'dumbbell' shaped pattern actually becoming a split vortex further aiding our mild,damp,grey fest.

All that said we do have some good cold in eastern europe now so any HP able to tap into that cold will help with our hunt for cold.

Then again it could just promote a cold HP over the region ( cold ,dense air) and so force us into left hand side of that HP drawing airs from our south.......

One also has to cut through IMBYism when reading through the MO thread. It's understandable and I'm not criticising that, but in the sort of set-up being forecast, the south and south-east aren't generally the most favourable and need a particularly cold flow. There's also some people with a 'easterly or nothing' mentality, who dismiss anything not with an easterly (which more often than not deliver nothing here) as crap.

Liverpool still has a snow row score of 116 based on the 0z and, although I don't now envisage the sort of snowmageddon some recent charts were showing, I think many places will see snow falling.

 

Don't worry- CFS already signalling the annual August wash out 

 

It's like there's two guarantees these days- cold March, wet August

Except for August 2018, which was a dry month for much of northern England. Indeed, it was drier than July in this neck of the woods.

 

Except for August 2018, which was a dry month for much of northern England. Indeed, it was drier than July in this neck of the woods.

I think we have been moving into a period that , like the washout summers, will run until the next major jolt to the climate system ( another big drop in Arctic sea ice or maybe even in Antarctic sea ice???) ?

As such both low solar and our current 'positioning' (with regard the polar jet) appear to favour HP dominance and low rainfall totals as a result. Some places are still running last years deficit for rainfall so may well be moving to 'drought' being declared if spring continues with dry , HP dominated conditions?

All this said we will still be able to see extreme rainfall events arriving against the grain! Be it via atmospheric river or extreme storm rainfalls that threat will always now remain.

. It's understandable and I'm not criticising that, but in the sort of set-up being forecast, the south and south-east aren't generally the most favourable and need a particularly cold flow.

This is true. Not the best direction but it used to work! Admittedly it was back in the day when you might get a short lived intense northerly and a polar low. Remember them? There's not been what I would call a blizzard here for many years. Certainly not in 2009/2010. Possibly last March came close for a while but I haven't seen a three foot drift this century.

 

This is true. Not the best direction but it used to work! Admittedly it was back in the day when you might get a short lived intense northerly and a polar low. Remember them? There's not been what I would call a blizzard here for many years. Certainly not in 2009/2010. Possibly last March came close for a while but I haven't seen a three foot drift this century.

 

i doubt many lowland places in the UK have ever experienced true blizzard conditions.

 

i doubt many lowland places in the UK have ever experienced true blizzard conditions.

And yet every winter, we get numerous people on here describe moderate snowfall and a breeze as 'whiteout conditions'

We had drifts of around 2-3 foot in March 13 - ironically with winds from an easterly quadrant. I've got pics of my eldest daughter standing next to a drift that looks like a breaking wave, with the top bent over and down. That was getting on for 2' tall - on a wide grass verge next to a road (and caused by a gap in the hedge). Only about 30 miles SSW of here, still relatively lowland (Wrexham, Llangollen), they had huge drifts (up to 6')

 

i doubt many lowland places in the UK have ever experienced true blizzard conditions.

In March 2018- We (EXETER) had two blizzards in less than 2 weeks in March and 1 heavy snow shower. Blizzard deposited 7" of snow in 5 hours (although depths did vary as it was drifting and powdery like sand dunes and then on 17th, 18th into 19th of March we had an additional 6" of snow (wetter snow which then became powdery).

In March 2018- We (EXETER) had two blizzards in less than 2 weeks in March and 1 heavy snow shower. Blizzard deposited 7" of snow in 5 hours (although depths did vary as it was drifting and powdery like sand dunes and then on 17th, 18th into 19th of March we had an additional 6" of snow (wetter snow which then became powdery).

At the Met Office we define a blizzard as moderate or heavy falling snow (either continuous or in the form of frequent showers) with winds speeds of 30 mph or more and a reasonably extensive snow cover reducing visibility to 200 metres or less.

Went to bed last night thinking the colder/potentially snowy spell was firming up, with GFS over its customary blip and shaping back towards the ECM happy times.

This morning I see GFS is veering back towards less exciting shiteness. 

At the halfway stage I can honestly say this winter is one of the biggest non events of a winter I have know. A dreary gloomy and wet december with some 6 inches of rain here  but not even the gales to go with it just wet and miserable.with one or two sunnier days. Generally mild or very mild but with not one proper air frost . since xmas eve days of drab cloudy mildish or coolish weather with one or two sunnier days thrown in but again without an air frost , just  afew ground frost patches here and there . No rain little wind , no snow and no frost . thoroughly depressing all in all and despite promise in the models of late as at this morning it doesnt look likely that very much is going to change except to a cooler few days with maybe a frost if we are lucky. I hate it when forecasters these days use terms like cooler and fresher in the depths of winter! Lets hope part 2 reverses this nothingness