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NAO finally heading in the right direction:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index_mrf.shtml
That also goes for the AO index:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.sprd2.gif
On the ecm suite one member drops to -20 at ground level!!
And the polar vortex is well & truly, dead shown well here:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=8.87,89.56,276
Lots to be positive about IMO
Given the distribution of snow, that looks very much like a NW/NNW flow of cold and active air, with a Kent Clipper thrown in for good measure.
Originally Posted by: Saint Snow
So my question: - why isn't the GFS 06Z run op) run showing this sort of blocked set up because there is quite a difference between the OP FI and Para FI run?
Para looks so blocked compared to OP run.,
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Originally Posted by: tallyho_83
Hopefully before long the op run will chuck out something like P19 of the 6Z GEFS to lift the spirits!
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Who knows? Clearly some minor difference in the modelling has had a big impact on this occasion, even though more often than not what the two versions come up with is very similar. If it's true that the Parallel run is intended to take over as the Operational from the start of next month, as someone wrote here a few days ago, then there must be a good chance that it's closer to being correct. Though even the last few operational runs have shown signs of developing a Scandi High right out at T+384. Let that intensify by 10 mb or so over the following day or two, and we could have a really cold easterly setting in.
Brian’s 300 countdown has officially begun.😎
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Gavin Ps excellent summary of latest EC 30 day temp trends. Another indication that a major switch is imminent and suggests from 25th Jan an easterly setup might be the preferred method of advecting the cold air our way.https://youtu.be/ELO4DUbqArY
Originally Posted by: nsrobins
I must contain my excitement as I’ve been burnt many times before relying on sumptuous looking charts only to find a damp squib at T-0 hrs. 😁
Originally Posted by: Rob K
I quite liked 14, think optimism can be raised. At least it is fun watching at the moment and usual suspect not t bleating on about zonality pretending they can forecast 4 weeks ahead!!
Originally Posted by: ballamar
Nah, 19 is where it's at... successive midday temps for a random spot in the Midlands of -0.5C, -4.3C, -5.2C and -5.6C
http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=270&y=91&run=6&ext=fr&mode=7&sort=0
We could also be under snow cover by then as well.
Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles
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Paradoxical! You wouldn’t get burnt because you can’t light a damp squib! Sorry SC! It just made me laugh so I had to say! Fingers crossed for snow cover!
Originally Posted by: Caz
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Already some significant changes on the GFS 12z as early as 228hrs.
Is this the flip coming. Looks like this low wants to dive southeastwards:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_228_1.png
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
The slightest hints of fronts wanting to slide south east than sweep across the UK on this afternoons run.
Weather station:
https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IWIRRAL24#history
Could be a tad windy down the east coast later next week if GEM was right
Hopefullly the GFSP, ensembles and ECM will also support the change to more unsettled conditions midmonth and then a cooling trend more generally.
Current conditions (personal WS)
Originally Posted by: Russwirral
The pizza slice looks positively tepid.
If only this did materialise - this LP to our south could produce some record amount of snow or wet snow or could be cold rain and sleet near the coast:
I was thinking similarly. Southern England could have a lot of snow, if that was to materialise. But of course it's T+300, so unlikely to.
..and it's got a soggy bottom. Conditions (at least in the south) look marginal for a crisp base.
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
19 was amazing, Rob, as you say, with days on end of -10 uppers and -4 midday temps at some point even far south.
The beauty unrolled slowly after the low giving the deep northerly sank into Europe and produced a good LP-driven E'ly with multiple waves travelling westwards around its N edge.
Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.
Originally Posted by: jhall
Wasn't the March 1891 low like that- the one that put 100ft drifts in Tavy Cleave (Dartmoor)?