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andy-manc
08 August 2018 07:07:48

I realised this morning that I haven't had my central heating on for 3 months. I usually leave it on the thermostat through summer and it flicks on nearly every day. That may change soon as it does feel a bit chillier this morning which is what made me think about it. Should have made a bit of a saving at least! February and March were a killer though so it does balance out. 

I do hope we can get a couple more weeks of decent weather out of this summer to end on a settled note. 

Saint Snow
08 August 2018 09:06:11

It’ll be far from ‘front-loaded’ even if the rest of August turns into pigswill.

a real front loaded summer means a beautiful May and/or June, even a nice Easter then nothing but utter tripe with a seamless blend into Autumn.

whatever happens now, this certainly is not going to be front loaded.

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

 

That's dependent on where you live.

Here in NW England, we had a largely excellent May (barring about 7-10 days somewhere round the middle), a superb June and a brilliant first two-thirds of July. I think for late May through to early July, this region had amongst the very best conditions in the whole UK (along with much of Wales, West Midlands, Western Scotland and Northern Ireland)

Since then, it's been mixed. There's been some fine weather days without doubt, and the temps have largely held up easily above average (sometimes very much so) - but it's been mostly cloudy and, of course, the odd rainy day. If the whole summer had been like the late-July to now period, I'd probably be giving it a 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

But after a near three months of amazing summer weather, the 'more average' weather of the past 3 weeks feels like a clunky come-down. Feels like a front-loaded summer.

I think much of Scotland and the far NW of England have had it worse than 'down' here, too.

For you SE'eners (and the south and east of England generally), the perception I got from reading posts on here is that the weather improved through July after an overall very good May & June, and there hasn't been the proliferation of cloud over the past 3 weeks or so, and certainly less rain down there. So your take on the summer is going to be different.


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Retron
08 August 2018 09:06:31



I realised this morning that I haven't had my central heating on for 3 months.

Originally Posted by: andy-manc 

Whereas I realised over half of last month's £53 electricity bill was spent on air-conditioning! It's very much worth it though, retiring to a room with cool, low-dewpoint air blowing over you is heavenly. It's great for sleeping, too, aside from the loud "thrmm" noise and even louder clunks as it turns on and off. I will still aim for "proper" air-con, but with new windows needed and new electrics too, it's not going to be any time soon.

Meanwhile it's what I'd consider close to a perfect summer's day now. The humidity is gone, it feels fresh albeit still with relatively strong sunshine. There's a breeze and there are scattered clouds. Why couldn't the rest of summer have been like this? :P

 


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andy-manc
08 August 2018 10:06:05

 

 

That's dependent on where you live.

Here in NW England, we had a largely excellent May (barring about 7-10 days somewhere round the middle), a superb June and a brilliant first two-thirds of July. I think for late May through to early July, this region had amongst the very best conditions in the whole UK (along with much of Wales, West Midlands, Western Scotland and Northern Ireland)

Since then, it's been mixed. There's been some fine weather days without doubt, and the temps have largely held up easily above average (sometimes very much so) - but it's been mostly cloudy and, of course, the odd rainy day. If the whole summer had been like the late-July to now period, I'd probably be giving it a 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

But after a near three months of amazing summer weather, the 'more average' weather of the past 3 weeks feels like a clunky come-down. Feels like a front-loaded summer.

I think much of Scotland and the far NW of England have had it worse than 'down' here, too.

For you SE'eners (and the south and east of England generally), the perception I got from reading posts on here is that the weather improved through July after an overall very good May & June, and there hasn't been the proliferation of cloud over the past 3 weeks or so, and certainly less rain down there. So your take on the summer is going to be different.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I have to agree with this. Definitely a frontloaded summer that has just petered out gradually. I'd say each week has been a little bit worse than the previous one since mid July. I think people maybe don't realise (or care about) the amount of cloud there has been away from the SE since mid July and generally more mixed picture. That's not to say it's been bad. Just not the endless blue skies, drought and heat that we had previously. Our weeks have been more 2 or 3 days of sun, 2 or 3 days of cloud and 2 days of showers recently. Temperatures have held up well though and the sunny days have felt hot which has helped redeem the end of July slightly.

May 8/10
June 9/10
July 7.5/10
August I'm fearing will be more of a 6/10

Overall if you include May, I'd probably say we have had an 8/10 summer

KevBrads1
08 August 2018 13:15:04

Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top 

1976 301
1995 298
2018 292 (up to 7th August)
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
1947 255
1933 251
1901 249
1921 249
2003 247
2013 247
1925 246
2006 246
1996 245
1935 243 
2018 242 <------if rest of August records zero sunshine, rain everyday and a mean maximum of 15C


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238

Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists

Saint Snow
08 August 2018 13:20:44

Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top 

1976 301
1995 298
2018 292 (up to 7th August)
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
1947 255
1933 251
1901 249
1921 249
2003 247
2013 247
1925 246
2006 246
1996 245
1935 243 
2018 242 <------if rest of August records zero sunshine, rain everyday and a mean maximum of 15C

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

 

Given the MO, I'd say it's unlikely this summer will pip 1995. Probably hold onto 3rd place, though.

 

(As a general observation, before we had kids the timing of a long spell of excellent summer weather was less important; now they're both well into their school years, I've become far more conscious of it)


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danm
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08 August 2018 14:43:48
31c yesterday to 24c with sunny spells today in London. Still pleasantly warm with light winds.
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KevBrads1
11 August 2018 20:37:41

Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top 

1976 301
1995 298
2018 290 (up to 11th August)
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
1947 255
1933 251
1901 249
1921 249

2018 248 <-----if rest of August records zero sunshine, a mean maximum of 15C and rain everyday


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238

Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists

DEW
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12 August 2018 06:16:48

Having spent June & most of July 1976 doing a weekend commute from Kent to Manchester, and then living in Kent in 1995 so in a position to compare from experience, I'd expect a similar index for the SE to show a clearer lead for 1976.


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KevBrads1
16 August 2018 15:04:24

Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top

1976 301

1995 298

2018 285 (up to 15th August)

1983 278

1955 277

1911 274

1984 271

1959 269

1975 268

1949 267

1989 262

1947 255

2018 252 <-------------------if rest of summer records a mean max of 15C, zero sunshine and rain everyday


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238

Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists

andy-manc
16 August 2018 15:22:35

Might be clinging on to that 3rd spot soon! Hopefully we get some form of half decent spell before the end of August though.

xioni2
16 August 2018 17:58:38

Having spent June & most of July 1976 doing a weekend commute from Kent to Manchester, and then living in Kent in 1995 so in a position to compare from experience, I'd expect a similar index for the SE to show a clearer lead for 1976.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

Probably for JJA, but I think 2018 would be ahead (and first) for MJJA.

 

KevBrads1
17 August 2018 15:47:41

Manchester Summer Indices

Summers in order with the best at the top 

1976 301
1995 298
2018 284 (up to 16th August)
1983 278
1955 277
1911 274
1984 271
1959 269
1975 268
1949 267
1989 262
2018 256 <----if rest of summer records zero sunshine, rain everyday and a mean maximum of 15C


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238

Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists

idj20
17 August 2018 16:08:01

But . . . but . . . what if 2018 is the new 1975 and we go onto having a drier than average winter?

Mmmmmmmm.


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johncs2016
17 August 2018 17:10:50

But . . . but . . . what if 2018 is the new 1975 and we go onto having a drier than average winter?

Mmmmmmmm.

Originally Posted by: idj20 

That might actually be quite good news for those of us who want a cold winter.

The last two winters were drier than average in this part of the world (although January of this year was a bit wetter than average), but a drier than average winter would have a better chance of also being a cold winter, than a wetter than average winter.

Having said that though, a dry winter would only really be good news for me if it wasn't so dry that we couldn't get any snow, because we still need something to be falling out of the sky in order for that to fall as snow.

Given that we are coming to the end of a dry summer in this part of the world though, that would certainly raise a few eyebrows if we were to get yet another dry winter as well after that.

 


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Caz
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19 August 2018 14:24:50

This summer has been excellent in my neck of the woods, although it started in April and May got even better, then it continued through to July. August has been a bit of a let down compared to the previous three months but in other years I’d have been happy with it as it’s been warm with very little rain.  So at least the kids have been able to get out during their school hols without it being spoilt by wet days.  

We’ve missed out on the thunder storms, which is unusual for us and disappointing for me as I love a good storm.  I’m a bit miffed that the summer CET is unlikely to beat any records because I think it’s tried so hard!    


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danm
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19 August 2018 15:14:04
It’s turned out to be a great afternoon. Sunny spells and 27c in London currently. Feels really warm in that sun.
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Work: London (Central)

Rob K
19 August 2018 16:14:25
Driving back from Devon today it’s like entering a different country. 16C, low cloud, strong wind and drizzle on the campsite this morning, now on the A303 in Wiltshire it’s beautiful sunshine and the car thermometer reading 26C. Definitely chose the wrong part of the country.
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Caz
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19 August 2018 16:36:47

Driving back from Devon today it’s like entering a different country. 16C, low cloud, strong wind and drizzle on the campsite this morning, now on the A303 in Wiltshire it’s beautiful sunshine and the car thermometer reading 26C. Definitely chose the wrong part of the country.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

So sorry to hear your holiday weather wasn’t good, especially after we’ve had such fantastic weather for such a long spell. That’s always the problem with UK holidays! 


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Gusty
19 August 2018 16:50:00

Driving back from Devon today it’s like entering a different country. 16C, low cloud, strong wind and drizzle on the campsite this morning, now on the A303 in Wiltshire it’s beautiful sunshine and the car thermometer reading 26C. Definitely chose the wrong part of the country.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

We camped in Cornwall in 2003, 2004, 2008, 2011,2012 !, 2013 and 2014.

Gave it up as it was either wet and windy or too cool.

The 8 hour drive west has been replaced with an 8 hour drive south instead. The results are significantly better as you can get south of La Rochelle and into the sunshine.


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Caz
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19 August 2018 19:23:42

We camped in Cornwall in 2003, 2004, 2008, 2011,2012 !, 2013 and 2014.

Gave it up as it was either wet and windy or too cool.

The 8 hour drive west has been replaced with an 8 hour drive south instead. The results are significantly better as you can get south of La Rochelle and into the sunshine.

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

We’ve experienced exactly the same, although we always found the temperature rose once we got over the St Nazaire bridge.  Having said that, we’ve never gone wrong with the weather in Kent!  It’s always been three or four degrees warmer than the East Midlands and altogether better weather than we’ve generally had in Cornwall.    


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TimS
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19 August 2018 19:45:10

We’ve experienced exactly the same, although we always found the temperature rose once we got over the St Nazaire bridge.  Having said that, we’ve never gone wrong with the weather in Kent!  It’s always been three or four degrees warmer than the East Midlands and altogether better weather than we’ve generally had in Cornwall.    

Originally Posted by: Caz 

I drive 6 hours due South from Calais and get to my holiday home near Macon. Not quite as many sunshine hours as Charente and more thunderstorms, but seriously hot most years. Just driving back from Dover now.

This last 3 weeks the mean max at Macon has been roughly 31C and mean min 18C. Only downside has been the plague of wasps and hornets, though I think it’s been bad in Britain too.

2 more hours South from there and you’re on the outskirts of Valence and the start of the Midi. 2 hours East and you’re in the Alps. 2 hours West and you’re in, well, the middle of nowhere.

 


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richardabdn
19 August 2018 20:19:59

Don't rate the summer climate of France. Only the extreme south (Provence and Cote d'Azur) is good enough for my tastes. 

Last time I was in France in summer 2010 I stayed just south of Carcassonne and the weather was not to my liking at all. Far too cloudy and evenings too cool. It was quite frankly dreadful on several days like drab summer days in the Highlands. One day was overcast with a high of 19C. Another it was pouring rain and 16C so took a trip to Collioure on the coast where there was some type of foehn effect and it was sunshine and 28C. Only problem was there was a howling wind too like nothing I've experienced anywhere except the Isle of Skye.

As for Cornwall, I went there in April 2007 and enjoyed glorious sunshine. The owner of the place I was staying said the weather is always better then and usually dreadful in August when all the tourists come.


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Gusty
19 August 2018 22:02:07

Don't rate the summer climate of France. Only the extreme south (Provence and Cote d'Azur) is good enough for my tastes. 

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Jeez. 


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xioni2
19 August 2018 22:31:17

Don't rate the summer climate of France. Only the extreme south (Provence and Cote d'Azur) is good enough for my tastes. .

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

I think you might moan even at a Greek island, even though they sometimes don't see a single cloud for 2-3 months.

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